Bounty emigrants sailing from London

[L Standfield]

My great-grandfather William Dodemaide, a Second Class Ag Lab from
Baltonsborough, Somerset, arrived in Van Dieman's Land (now Tasmania, Australia) on

the 8th of May 1842 on the "Corsair", which sailed from London.

The Tasmanian Archives have told me they had no more information about
him.

My query is: does anyone know if there might be more information in
London, or where Bounty emigrants would have been recruited?

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[pwholt]

Is it specifically the journey you are interested in? You can still find information on the man in his home parish ( or confirm that it is correct) by using censuses. Bearing in mind that there might be a different spelling for the surname, I would check 1841 to see if William appears at home in Somerset, and also 1851 to see what other members of the family remained in England. Doddemead is a Wiltshire spelling of the surname. PW

[ChristineR]

a Second Class Ag Lab

I think that would mean he was an Ag lab, and he travelled Second Class?

Bounty emigrants were usually recruited in their home town by agents, enticing notices were put up around town and maybe an information meeting would be held. Then they were required to travel to one of a few ports in England where they caught the ship. Some shipping manifestos did contain only basic information, others were quite detailed, it depended on the scheme that they were recruited under, and to which part of Australia that they were going to. And not all lists survive.

The BDM indexes may have information if he married, etc - however there is at least one convict of the same name who arrived in 1846.

Your fellow should have been in England for the 1841 census so that may be helpful.

[L Standfield]

Thank you for your input.

In actual fact on the "Return of Immigrants per Ship 'Corsair'" it states William Dodamead was a 2nd Class Farm Servant. He was on the 1841 census of Baltonborough, with Grace LESTER, who we believe was the mother of William.

Father believed to be James DODDEMEADE of Baltonsborough, Somerset who died a fortnight before the census in West Pennard Workhouse.

Sounds like it may be impossible to find any information from England. Were bounty emigrants sought privately or was the Government involved? I thought it would be involved in some form.

The emigrants had to have a reference.

[L Standfield]

Is it specifically the journey you are interested in? You can still find information on the man in his home parish ( or confirm that it is correct) by using censuses. Bearing in mind that there might be a different spelling for the surname, I would check 1841 to see if William appears at home in Somerset, and also 1851 to see what other members of the family remained in England. Doddemead is a Wiltshire spelling of the surname. PW

Thank you for your input.

William Dodemaide arrived in Tasmania in 1842 then married in Victoria in 1848, after moving from Tasmania in 1845. He wasn't a convict, but Jesse the son of James Doddemeade of Baltonsborough was & arrived about 1833,and another son Samuel emigrated to South Australia inthe early 1850s.

We feel that William is connected to the family from Mells, Somerset.

[usernick]

Still searching - found this so far:

The Corsair was an Assisted Immigration Ship that sailed from London to Launceston, and had 48 immigrants on board. It arrived on 8th May 1842.

Cheers,


Nick :)

[L Standfield]

Thanks Nick,

Have that. It's information from the other end I'm looking for that might give me some more information about William Dodemaide.

Lorraine. |book|

[usernick]

Hi,

Is this the same person (obviously the surname's different, but just trying to find the name on a shipping list on board the Corsair)?

Name: William Delamede
Ship: Corsair
Departure: London
Arrival Date: 8 May 1842
Age: 18
References: CB7/9/1/1 p59 CSO8/60/1347

If so, what extra information do the above references show (or is it just the information already supplied)?

I know this isn't what you're looking for, but it might assist others in finding out more! :)

Cheers,


Nick :)

[usernick]

Of course, you might have already answered the question - if so, apologies! :)

Cheers,


Nick :)

[L Standfield]

Of course, you might have already answered the question - if so, apologies! :)

Cheers,


Nick :)

Yes I do have that Nick, and after many years with some friendly input and blow-ups we came to the conclusion it is actually Dodemede in bad writing. The is just one line with little more than you quoted. I was hoping there may have something more to see in London/England as the Tassie Archives told me years ago there is nothing more in their files.

Lorraine.

[usernick]

I was hoping there may have something more to see in London/England as the Tassie Archives told me years ago there is nothing more in their files.

Lorraine.

Hi Lorraine,

There could well be - I've spent parts of the day (inbetween work) seeing if there's any further information on Bounty Imigrants. It would appear that finding agents were assigned in the UK (by agents in Australia) to look for suitable skilled labour and tradespeople. The amount supplied by the agent in Australia was then divided between the finding agent in the UK, to the Ship's muster (to pay for the voyage), and a large sum kept for themselves.

Now, where to find the information on how the labour was advertised, who the agents were in the UK, and where the information is held (if any) is an intriguing question.

Does anybody else have any clues as where to go next?

Cheers,


Nick :)

[L Standfield]

Hi Lorraine,

There could well be - I've spent parts of the day (inbetween work) seeing if there's any further information on Bounty Imigrants. It would appear that finding agents were assigned in the UK (by agents in Australia) to look for suitable skilled labour and tradespeople. The amount supplied by the agent in Australia was then divided between the finding agent in the UK, to the Ship's muster (to pay for the voyage), and a large sum kept for themselves.

Now, where to find the information on how the labour was advertised, who the agents were in the UK, and where the information is held (if any) is an intriguing question.

Does anybody else have any clues as where to go next?

Cheers,


Nick :)

Hello Nick,

Thank you very much & how good of you to do this for me.

The only other information I have that is on the form is the Date of Arrival May 8th 1842, the Date of Applicant May 12th 1842 then Name and Address of Applicant - H Dowling of Launceston for the ten Immigrants on the page. I didn't mention this as I thought it would be the person who employed, but could be the Agent as well I guess.

Thanks again,

Lorraine.
PS where are you searching?

[Bess]

William Dodemaide d. Victoria 1908, age 83 years - no parents names listed. Who did he marry - if you can locate the marriage cert. it would have parents names.

[Bess]

At this site -
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria
you can search the index for a marriage which has two entries in 1848 for William Dodemade and Mary Deegan, and again the same year for William Dodmade and Mary Deegan same couple I am sure. You can pay for (about $20), and download the image of the original document. It should have names of parents and birthplace of bride and groom (hopefully more specific than just England) if this sounds like your couple.

[L Standfield]

At this site -
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria
you can search the index for a marriage which has two entries in 1848 for William Dodemade and Mary Deegan, and again the same year for William Dodmade and Mary Deegan same couple I am sure. You can pay for (about $20), and download the image of the original document. It should have names of parents and birthplace of bride and groom (hopefully more specific than just England) if this sounds like your couple.

Thank you for your input Bess.
I applied for both marriage certificates many years ago, but the marriage is from Early Church Records and has very little information and certainly no parents or birthplace. From some of the children's birth certicates he says place of birth is Baltondborough near Glastonbury.

Thanks,

Lorraine.

[Bess]

Just to clarify sources of information covered so far - is any of this information from the files listed on Tasmanian Archives arrivals database for Corsair 1842 for William Delamede or is that yet to be accessed?.

[L Standfield]

Just to clarify sources of information covered so far - is any of this information from the files listed on Tasmanian Archives arrivals database for Corsair 1842 for William Delamede or is that yet to be accessed?.

The information is from the "Corsair" as originally stated:

My great-grandfather William Dodemaide [Delamede], a Second Class Ag Lab from Baltonsborough, Somerset, arrived in Van Dieman's Land (now Tasmania, Australia) on the 8th of May 1842 on the "Corsair", which sailed from London.

That which looked like DELAMEDE is now recognised as, with the help of zooming in, DODAMEDE in bad writing.

[usernick]

PS where are you searching?

Hi Lorraine,

I've recently become interested in immigration with regards to genealogy, and am investigating the reasons why our ancestors emmigrated (amongst my ancestors so far include: a criminal convict - transported to Tasmania, and 3 of my ancestors emmigrated to America due to finding a better life/work).

With regards to Bounty Immigrants, I found the (general) information here:

angelfire.com/al/aslc/immigration.html (put www. in front)

Which provides a pretty good history.

Anyway, I'll see what else I can dig up?

Cheers,


Nick :)