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JustinL
11-04-2005, 1:33 PM
Hello Folks,

I just discovered that one of my gf's brothers-in-law probably came from Cornwall.

Could somebody please look in the 1891 census of Launceston for the 35-year-old solicitor George Graham White.

George was born in Launceston and was possibly recorded as George White - as he is in the 1901 census.

I expect/hope to find an 8 year-old son - Edwin or Eustace. This man was known to my late father as E.W.C. Graham-White.

Many thanks in advance.

Justin Levy
(Dublin, Ireland)

Trish
11-04-2005, 3:41 PM
...Could somebody please look in the 1891 census of Launceston for the 35-year-old solicitor George Graham White.

George was born in Launceston and was possibly recorded as George White - as he is in the 1901 census.

I expect/hope to find an 8 year-old son - Edwin or Eustace. This man was known to my late father as E.W.C. Graham-White...He's there, Justin. But no son. Here are the details:

Living at St. Stephens House in St Stephen, Cornwall--

Name / Age in 1891 / Birthplace / Relationship to head-of-house / Occupation
White, George G 35 Launceston, Cornwall Head Solicitor
White, Margaret A 29 Truro, Cornwall Wife
White, Gladys E C 1 Launceston, Cornwall Daughter
Michell, Ethel 22 Truro, Cornwall Visitor Merchant's Daughter
Hoskin, Mary A 21 Tintagel, Cornwall Servant Nursemaid
Ham, Mary E 26 St. Stephens, Cornwall Servant Cook

Source information: RG12/1803
Registration district: Launceston
Sub registration district: St Stephens
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Folio: 74
Page: 8

Trish

Trish
11-04-2005, 3:50 PM
Further to what I just gave you, Justin:

There are no young boys named Eustace WHITE in Cornwall in 1891 at all -- at least, none that pop up in a search. There is one Edwin WHITE, 8 years old, but he is living with his parents, John [a woodsman] and Maria in Perranzabuloe, Cornwall.

Trish

JustinL
11-04-2005, 4:30 PM
Trish,

Thank you so very much for your time.

FreeBMD lists an Edwin William [CO] White, b. 1883 in Truro. I do not know what the [CO] means. I shall look for any more.

Margaret Annie White's maiden name was Michell. I have been told that there is a 7 year-old William White with his Michell grandparents in Kenwyn, Truro in 1891.

Maybe this is the elusive great-unlce? He is recorded as E. White, 18, b. in Truro, student mining engineer in Camborne in 1901. I do not know whether any further initials were given.

All a bit of a mystery.

Justin

Trish
11-04-2005, 10:55 PM
Trish,

Thank you so very much for your time.

FreeBMD lists an Edwin William [CO] White, b. 1883 in Truro. I do not know what the [CO] means. I shall look for any more.

Margaret Annie White's maiden name was Michell. I have been told that there is a 7 year-old William White with his Michell grandparents in Kenwyn, Truro in 1891.

Maybe this is the elusive great-unlce? He is recorded as E. White, 18, b. in Truro, student mining engineer in Camborne in 1901. I do not know whether any further initials were given.

All a bit of a mystery.

JustinJustin, you are most welcome.

In regard to William WHITE, do you think Edwin and William are the same boy? And are you referring to the following household living at Glan Mor??? [difficult to read on image], Falmouth Road?

Name / Age in 1891 / Birthplace / Relationship to head-of-house / Occupation
Michell, Richard F 53 Truro, Cornwall Head Timber Merchant
Michell, Margaret 50 Truro, Cornwall Wife
Michell, Floren name was Michell. I have been told that there is a 7 year-old William White with his Michell grandparents in Kenwyn, Truro in 1891.

Maybe this is the elusive great-unlce? He is recorded as E. White, 18, b. in Truro, student mining engineer in Camborne in 1901. I do not know whether any further initials were given.

All a bit of a mystery.

Justin[/QUOTE]Justin, you are most welcome.

In regard to William WHITE, do you think Edwin and William are the same boy? And are you referring to the following household living at Glan Mor??? [difficult to read on image], Falmouth Road?

Name / Age in 1891 / Birthplace / Relationship to head-of-house / Occupation
Michell, Richard F 53 Truro, Cornwall Head Timber Merchant
Michell, Margaret 50 Truro, Cornwall Wife
Michell, Florence E 25 Truro, Cornwall Daughter
Michell, Emma L 20 Truro, Cornwall Daughter
Michell, Bernard C 12 Truro, Cornwall Servant
Michell, Olga M 5 Truro, Cornwall Daughter
White, William G 7 Truro, Cornwall Grandson
??, Ellen ?? [very faint on image] East Newlyn, Cornwall Servant [Cook]

Source information: RG12/1830
Registration district: Truro
Sub registration district: Kenwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Folio: 24
Page: 9

Trish

Trish
11-04-2005, 11:17 PM
Sorry about the repeating text in my previous message [and if it happens again in this one]. You do seem to be on the right track. Edwin William WHITE was born in the last quarter of 1883 which means he would be not yet 8 in the 1891 census. Too bad you don't know who his parents were...

Do you have the 1871 census information on the MICHELL family?

As in the later census, they are at Glan Mor House, Kenwyn, Cornwall:

Name / Age in 1871 / Birthplace / Relationship to head-of-house / Occupation
Richard F Michell 38 Truro, Cornwall, England Head Timber Merchant
Margaret Michell 31 Truro, Cornwall, England Wife
Robert W Michell 10 Truro, Cornwall, England Son
Margaret A Michell 9 Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
John H Michell 7 Truro, Cornwall, England Son
Florence E Michell 6 Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
Ada G Michell 2 Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
Gertude E Michell under 1 month Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
Josepha Morcome 46 Crantock, Cornwall, England Servant [Nurse]
Lydia Nicholls 28 Portscatha, Cornwall, England Servant [Cook]
Jane Whetteo 17 Truro, Cornwall, England Servant [Child's Maid]
As in the later census, they are at Glan Mor House, Kenwyn, Cornwall:


Name / Age in 1871 / Birthplace / Relationship to head-of-house / Occupation
Richard F Michell 38 Truro, Cornwall, England Head Timber Merchant
Margaret Michell 31 Truro, Cornwall, England Wife
Robert W Michell 10 Truro, Cornwall, England Son
Margaret A Michell 9 Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
John H Michell 7 Truro, Cornwall, England Son
Florence E Michell 6 Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
Ada G Michell 2 Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
Gertude E Michell under 1 month Truro, Cornwall, England Daughter
Josepha Morcome 46 Crantock, Cornwall, England Servant [Nurse]
Lydia Nicholls 28 Portscatha, Cornwall, England Servant [Cook]
Jane Whetteo 17 Truro, Cornwall, England Servant [Child's Maid]

Source information: RG10/2283
Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Kenwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Folio: 28
Page: 11
Household schedule number: 53

Trish

JustinL
12-04-2005, 12:23 PM
Trish,

I have only just seen your latest posts. Brilliant! Thank you.

Most important is the full entry in 1891 - William G White. The G most probably stands for Graham, as with his father's entry.

As for the missing first names, that seems to have been all too common in those days. Both my maternal grandfather and his brother were recorded incorrectly in 1901, i.e. they were recorded by the names that they were usually called, which were not their first christian names.

Are you able to check the 1901 census for free?

Justin

Trish
13-04-2005, 5:09 AM
Trish,

I have only just seen your latest posts. Brilliant! Thank you.

Most important is the full entry in 1891 - William G White. The G most probably stands for Graham, as with his father's entry.

As for the missing first names, that seems to have been all too common in those days. Both my maternal grandfather and his brother were recorded incorrectly in 1901, i.e. they were recorded by the names that they were usually called, which were not their first christian names.

Are you able to check the 1901 census for free?

JustinYou're right -- the problems with "unreliable" first names on censuses were not uncommon. It can really complicate matters when you're looking for an ancestor who might have been christened Elizabeth Ann, for example, but was called Lizzie and/or Eliza and/or Betty and/or Annie at different stages of her life.



The 1901 census is available online and is searchable free of charge at http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/. It's also available -- and easier to search -- through ancestry for a subscription fee.

JustinL
13-04-2005, 8:44 AM
Trish,

Just to close out the investigation.

I have just found out that the entry for E. White in 1901 reads:

E.W.C. Gra. White

That's my great-uncle!

Thanks for all your help.

Justin

Trish
13-04-2005, 2:14 PM
Trish,

Just to close out the investigation.

I have just found out that the entry for E. White in 1901 reads:

E.W.C. Gra. White

That's my great-uncle!

Thanks for all your help.

JustinCongratulations, Justin. Good work!