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phillip
12-12-2009, 11:53 AM
Steve
I am putting some of the data on the descendants of Joseph Levy ( Joseph Eliyakum HaLevi) which Pat has sent me in the hope that other researchers may be able to assist us in making further connections to the Crawcour/Levy and other lines.
The data shows Joseph Levy 1799 was at 49 Tooley Street and a silversmith. Between 1814-20 he was clothes salesman at 49 Tooley Street and between 1827/28 he was a watch and clock maker at 171 Tooley Street
Nb Note the occupation as clothes salesman 1814-20- is this where the Crawcour/Aarons/Levy links start to develop?
His children:
Frances Levy circa 1781 m Henry Harris in 1800
Godfrey Levy m Tereta bat Mr Noah 1810 Nb He re-married Sarah Crawcour and changed his name to Godfrey Godfrey
Lawrence Levy circa 1784 m Priscilla Moses 1830
Gittela-Julia? m Moshe Halevi- they were divorced and she re married Shlomeh ben Uri Shirga Feiss Uri Leib 1798 New Syn
Keila m Meshulam Zissel ben Nathan HaCohen 1810
Barnet m Betty Ellis-Beila bat Mr Shmuel
Henry b circa 1793-1799 m Rosetta Moses
There are more detailed data on the lines but this is the first part of the information and sources are listed on the data.
Nb Lewis Harris son of Frances Levy and Henry Harris was present at the death of Abraham Abrahams 9 Great Prescott St in 1839 and in 1881 was at 8 Great Prescott St living next door to Ann Abrahams widow of Abraham ( Abrahams/Levy/Cowvan/Magnus/Solomon/Bamberg etc are all related lines)
Lewis married Fanny Jacobs in 1829- she was the daughter of Asher Henry Jacobs and Kitty Samuel)
It is possible that Joseph Levy holds the key to the Crawcour and other relationships.
Any information from other researchers welcome.
Steve- I think there is data on Joseph on Cemetery Scribes and Synagaogue scribes
Phillip
SRFENN
12-12-2009, 7:37 PM
The Levy Crawcour connection must ahve started at least as far back as C.1772 when Rebecca Levy married Samuel Crawcour (their first child being born C. 1773), if she was definitely a Levy.
We then have Aaron Aarons of Russell Court marrying Hannah Levy in 1793, his brother Henry marrying Rebecca Levy (presumably Hannah's sister) in 1803 and, finally, Catherine Crawcour marrying an Aaron Aarons in 1806.
All long before 1814 and Juseph Levy's days as a clothes salesman. Also, if he were in Tooley Street, it's nowhere near Russell Court or any of the other places associated with the Crawcours and Aarons.
Still, I am sure there is a link somewhere and the clothes salesman is interesting.
Steve
phillip
14-12-2009, 11:32 AM
Steve
There are numerous Levy links to my Jacobs lines which have been listed on the jacobstree website set up by one of my distant cousins. Some of these Levy lines are clothes salesman but I have no way of knowing if there are any links to Levy/Crawcour. Similarly, I have Levy and Hart links and these are clothes salesman in Hollywell St.Doesn't get us very far but when we visit SOG we could try and locate some of the Levy we have names/dates etc for.
Phillip
SRFENN
15-12-2009, 5:51 PM
I checked Levy on the Jewish Gen site and found the following:-
1802 Simon Levey salesman at 5, Russell Court, Drury Lane
1802 Joseph Levey salesman at 4, Russell Court, Drury Lane
1807 Michael Levi Russell Court
1807 Michael Levy Russell Court
1814 Simon Levy clothes salesman at 5, Russell Court, Drury Lane
1814 David Levi clothes salesman at 23, Russell Court, Covent Garden
1814 Issac Levy clothes salesman at 28, Russell Court, Covent Garden
1819 Isaac Levy at 28, Russell Court, Drury Lane
1822 Isaac Levy salesman at 28, Russell Court, Drury Lane
1827 -28 Isaac Levy clothes salesman at 2, Russell Court, Drury Lane
1836 Rebecca Levy clothes salesman at 2, Russell Court, Brydges Street
N.B. Brydges Street os the former name of Catherine Street
So, we have Sinom Levey at 5, Russell Court between 1802 & 1814, a third Rebecca Levy and a few more clothes salesmen. Does any of this help us???
It seems that the Aarons and the Levys occupied quite a lot of Russell Court between them.
Steve
phillip
16-12-2009, 9:24 PM
Steve
We would have to do cross checks and see if any of these Levy at Russell Court had further data on Cemetery and Synagogue Scribes plus other sources. Even then we have no current confirmation that there are any links between Joseph and the Levy of Russell Court but we don't know who Joseph's siblings were so they might be related. Here we go again! Talk about a long hunt.
Phillip
SRFENN
17-12-2009, 10:04 AM
I did have a look on cemetery and synagogue scribes but couldn't see any obvious links. Yes, a long hunt indeed!
I was wondering about Rebecca Levy (Samuel Crawcour's wife and Catherine's mother). It is just conceivable, by juggling marriage dates and estimating possible birth dates, that she could have been married before Samuel Crawcour to a Levy and produced Rebecca and Hannah who married Aaron and Henry Aarons. If that Levy had died before 1792 ans then she married Samuel Crawcour, it would all just about fit and her previous married name, but not her maiden name, would ahve been Levy. If she was not Rebecca and Hannah's mother she must have been their aunty as she was twenty plus years older than them and could not have been their sister (2 Rebeccas).
As for Aaron Aarons junior (Catherine's husband), I was wondering whether he could have been the son of Henry, or another of Jacob Aarons' sons if he was not Aaron arons' son? That would get around the problem of Aaron Aarons senioe being too young to be Elizabeth's father.
The one fact we do have is that Simon Levey/Levy lived at 5, Russell Court at the same time as Aaron Aarons and Hannah Levy lived there so was he Hannah's brother? The two families must definitely have been closely linked and, if we could dig up a bit more on this, we might find how they relate to Catherine Crawcour and Aaron Aarons junior.
Steve
phillip
17-12-2009, 11:24 AM
Hi Steve
I have been contacted by a researcher on Genesreunited who has links to Joseph Aarons and Ann Tellon. She is going to order the marriage certificate of Joseph to Ann. This may give us some more clues. With regard to Rebecca Crawcour I don't have a dob or age at death.
The first recorded child of Samuel Crawcour and Rebecca was Andrew b circa 1773 then Barnett 1776;Isaac circa 1777;Moses c1778;Ann ( Nancy) circa 1780;Catherine ( Kitty) c1785;Henry c 1787;David c1791; Sarah c ? m Godfrey Levy.
The advertisements for Samuel identified in her article by Christine Hillam Medical History vol 22 no1 Jan 1978 pp44-70 shows that between 1769 and 1775 he was the only recorded visiting dentist in the Leicester and Nottingham Journal. In 1777 Samuel said in another adverisement for Shrewsbury that he was from Gloucester. We don't know where Andrew was born but the births of the children include locations such as Kingston upon Hull.
I don't think Samuel was married twice and if he was then we have no record of his marriage or children if he had any. As I said before the Crawcour name is a rare one and we have traced all the known links to the children of Samuel.
Phillip
AdeleE
17-12-2009, 12:08 PM
Hi Steve
I have been contacted by a researcher on Genesreunited who has links to Joseph Aarons and Ann Tellon. She is going to order the marriage certificate of Joseph to Ann. This may give us some more clues.
Phillip
From the Ancestry London Marriages & Banns database:
Marriage - St Mary Haggerston - Oct 27 1853
Joseph Aaron, 28, bachelor, tailor, Pellam St, father: late Aaron Aaron, Tailor
Ann Tellon, 27, spinster, (no occup), Pellam St, father: late Christopher Tellon, Shoe Maker
Joseph Aaron (signed)
The mark X of Ann Tellon
Witnesses: James Sweet (signed), the mark of Hannah Barnfather
phillip
17-12-2009, 1:09 PM
Adele
Please accept my thanks for kindly supplying us with the details of Joseph's marriage. It is another piece in the jigsaw.
Best wishes
Phillip
SRFENN
17-12-2009, 6:40 PM
Yes, thank you Adele, every little bit of information is useful.
Phillip, I did not suggest that Samuel Crawcour might have been married twice but that Rebecca Levy might have been. If she wasn't then I suggested that she must have been Rebecca and Hannah's aunty and not their mother.
With regard to her age I merely postulated that, as Andrew Crawcour was born in 1773 Rebecca and Samuel might have been married in 1772 and, as Samuel was born C.1748, Rebecca might have been born at roughly the same date and, therefore, 21 in C.1769; time enough to have married Mr. Levy and have a couple of children before he died and she re-married in 1772. I know it's only speculation but plausible nevertheless and speculation is the only way to seek possible answers.
Steve
phillip
18-12-2009, 10:39 AM
Steve
My best wishes to you and your family for Christmas and the New Year. I am now on holiday and won't be doing research until the New Year. Would like to meet up with you 2nd week Jan if possible. Keep up the speculations and let us see if we can get further data.
Phillip
SRFENN
05-01-2010, 11:06 AM
Happy New Year,
Nice to see that you're back on the case again. Thanks for the list of Joseph Aaron & Ann Tellon. I couldn't find Joseph in 1891 census, how did you manage to? Did it have a place of birth for him so we can compare this with previous censuses?
Let me know about the S.O.G. trip when you have a date; most days are fine with me.
Best regards,
Steve
phillip
05-01-2010, 7:24 PM
Steve
The data I have on Joseph Aaron and Ann Tellon and their children is not that collated by Pat and myself. I have no current access to the census records so can't check other than 1881. This is what I have in terms of addresses -
Rebecca Aaron and Henry Stockwell 401 Bethnal Green 1891
Henry Aaron 200 Old Ford Rd Bethnal Green 1881
Joseph Aaron and Ann Tellon 1881-1901 245 Bethnal Green- Mary Alabaster was at the same address in 1891 daughter of Ann Aaron and David Alabaster- it looks as if at least 2 of their children were placed in the local workhouse according to the data I have and the others located in other areas
Esther Aaron and Edwin Duck 1 Type St Bethnal Green 1901
Aaron Aaron and Elizabeth Nichols 53 Thorpe Rd Leyton Essex
Rachel Aaron and Samuel Murrel 362 Hackney Rd Bethnal Green 1891
The 1881 census birth location for Joseph Aaron and Ann Tellon shows he was born in Bethnal Green
Hope this helps
Phillip
Ps If any researcher can locate Joseph Aaron and Ann Tellon in the 1891 census and confirm where he was born we would appreciate it
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