New Registration Districts on Ancesspit

[v.wells]

I have noticed over the past month or so that ancesspit has created new registration districts. Not only does this play haoc with my geographical knowledge (I have to keep checking my maps) But I don't what I am supposed to put down for district when ordering certificates.

I include/attach the sources and then the wretched search engine tells me about the same source, therefore doubling up the looking time I spend.

Has anyone else noticed this?

One good thing that is new, is yesterday when I was adding in pre-1984 death dates, it popped up the source so I could add it. :D

[lesleys]

You could check the Reg district with Free BMD and/or look at the original image on A.... to decide which to use when ordering.

[Mona]

If you are referring to the GRO registration districts, these have nothing to do with Ancestry. A number of new ones were created in the 1930s and 1940s, as needs and population changed no doubt.
The best site to search for BMDs is FreeBMD. Ancestry is using their data, usually a bit behind.

[Pam Downes]

Vanessa might be referring to ones such as I found. Dimehouse is one I remember.
It should be Limehouse, and does say Limehouse in the GRO Index.

But yes, as Mona says, new districts were created in the 1930s (as well as other times), and places were moved hither and thither. Details of districts up to 1974 can be found on Genuki (http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/).
Major hither-and-thithering occurred in 1974 when county boundaries were moved, old counties were consigned to the rubbish heap, and new counties which were usually despised by everyone who had to live in them :) were 'created'.

Vanessa - Do I presume that your major problem is with districts in GRO Index entries 1984+ when you no longer have the GRO Index page to refer to?
Pam

[v.wells]

An example would be a registration in Portsmouth which Ancesspit titles the district as Hampshire, Dorset, Southampton, Isle of Wight. Of course I know it is Hampshire, but there have been others I have seen such as Tonbridge being listed in Sussex, Surrey, Kent or even Devon/Cornwall/Scilly Isles and yes I know it is in Kent. GRO said to state the whole lot when ordering. I have also found deaths in "Mid Warwickshire" as a registration district which does not tell me a lot.

I think they have lumped some districts together in one place. Sometimes the districts changed within a few yrs, as you said Pam in the 1970's and some reverted back to what they were. It is a just an annoying little challenge to me.

I do have the registration districts printed out and stuck on my bulletin board. :)

[v.wells]

You could check the Reg district with Free BMD and/or look at the original image on A.... to decide which to use when ordering.

It's second nature to always look at the original image.:)


If you are referring to the GRO registration districts, these have nothing to do with Ancestry. A number of new ones were created in the 1930s and 1940s, as needs and population changed no doubt.
The best site to search for BMDs is FreeBMD. Ancestry is using their data, usually a bit behind.

I think Free BMD is good for pre-1983 but doesn't have post-1984. I have a sub to Ancesspit where I can access both but I do use Freebmd quite a bit for verification of some things. :)

[pattenwalsh]

I see on ancesspit that I'm born in Romford,Essex,Suffolk!

[Pam Downes]

I'd forgotten that A..y lumped all the counties together.
I've just seen that Halifax registration district is classed as Yorkshire, Northumberland/Westmorland (which is enough to give any Yorkshire man apoplexy :D); Bedford district is in Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Essex; and N. Walsham is in Hertfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Suffolk, Norfolk. (North Walsham the town is in Norfolk.) Logic just does not exist.
Chipping Norton is deemed to be 'Hampshire, Buckinghamshire, Isle of Wight' and it's in Oxfordshire, and the last time I looked Oxfordshire was nowhere near the the Isle of Wight.
And it's only on A...y. On FMP up to and including 1983, you are given a link to the GRO Index page with the name on. 1984 onwards you get the name e.g. Joe Bloggs, registration district e.g. Salisbury and the county e.g. Wiltshire. Whereas the entry on A..y says district Salisbury, county 'Wiltshire, Hampshire, Dorset/Somerset'. |computer|
I would only ever quote the registration district when ordering certificates.
Pam

[v.wells]

I'm glad I am not alone in this! Now you know that I'm not crazy (yet) :D

[Geoffers]

Chipping Norton is deemed to be 'Hampshire, Buckinghamshire, Isle of Wight'

Having just got back from a meeting in Chippy, I can relieve any concerns of local residents and confirm that (contrary to the machinations of Ancesspit) it remains in Oxfordshire.


N. Walsham is in Hertfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Suffolk, Norfolk

Wort a load o'squit 'bor

[pennydog]

Hope no one is looking for Harrow Middlesex - It has been Transcribed as HARLOW ESSEX!! - I only discovered this when I could not find family that I knew were registered in Harrow, so put in my parents-in-law marriage and found it in Harlow. Once I knew where to look found the rest of them.
If you are looking for Uxbridge it comes up as Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire and lastly Middlesex (where it is!) |scold|

[Waitabit]

:D
I'm glad I am not alone in this! Now you know that I'm not crazy (yet) :D

Never mind Vanessa, can't be too far of if you stick to this game. there'll be several of us to welcome you when it happens.:D

[v.wells]

Don't we all love mind games! :D

[dreward]

I know this is rather late in the day to be raising this subject but as I only came across the "Ancesspit" word last night and not even Google seemed to be able to tell me what it was, I hope someone can enlighten me?

Apart from the obvious foul-smelling connotation, where does it come from?
And is it really allowable on this site?**

Happy New Year to all

Dave

[Jan1954]

I know this is rather late in the day to be raising this subject but as I only came across the "Ancesspit" word last night and not even Google seemed to be able to tell me what it was, I hope someone can enlighten me?It is what some members choose to call the organisation Ancestry. It can also be referred to as Alchemy, A****** as well as other variants.


Apart from the obvious foul-smelling connotation, where does it come from? I am not sure who first coined the word but it does reflect the regard in which some members hold the organisation.

And is it really allowable on this site?** Yep! :)

[dreward]

It is what some members choose to call the organisation Ancestry. It can also be referred to as Alchemy, A****** as well as other variants.

I am not sure who first coined the word but it does reflect the regard in which some members hold the organisation.
Yep! :)

Hi Jan
Thanks for the explanation - obvious when you know, I'd had my suspicions but this has cleared the air, so to speak

Dave

[benny1982]

They may have one called Midsomer, Walford, Emmerdale or Sun Hill next. |jumphappy

[v.wells]

This has played me a song and dance :confused: when entering details into tribalpages. After some point Essex changes into Middlesex and then there is the problem of Dorset/Devon/Somerset and Hampshire towns that are so close to borders that the registration county seems to change every few years. Can't decide whether to keep it "old" or change it to "new".|rant|

[ChristineR]

This has played me a song and dance :confused: when entering details into tribalpages. After some point Essex changes into Middlesex and then there is the problem of Dorset/Devon/Somerset and Hampshire towns that are so close to borders that the registration county seems to change every few years. Can't decide whether to keep it "old" or change it to "new".|rant|

I think the way to record the information would be to use what was 'in' at the time of each event. You could always use a clarifying note about boundary changes in the event notes.

[atrebatus]

Free BMD is the source I trust and defer to when using A******

[Nannas]

I know this is rather late in the day to be raising this subject but as I only came across the "Ancesspit" word last night and not even Google seemed to be able to tell me what it was, I hope someone can enlighten me?

Apart from the obvious foul-smelling connotation, where does it come from?
And is it really allowable on this site?**

Happy New Year to all

Dave

hahaha you've got ya answer...
I have issues on both sides...which probably won't be allowed here..
I have been checking most rooms here and have not seen anyone from Ancestry in here abusing people.....but in Ancestry you get some (or one) mentioning here and abusing people in Ancestry..
They tell people posting in BOTH sites to get back into BG and stop posting in Ancestry...(even when Ancestry helpers were adding info to the info already supplied in BG) They followed and abused on every single post....sometimes 3 or 4 times in each thread...(I had them deleted)

I guess it isn't just the value of the site.....but how the people on a site act...Was kind of sad to see that....

Nannas