1891 Lookup

[ewan]

I am looking for an Ernest Mitchell born 1881 Isle of Wight.

I have Ernest and his family living on the 1881 census on the Isle of Wight, can anyone please help to try and find him or the rest of his family on the 1891 census?

13 Newport St Ryde
RG11 1178/50 52.

Thank you for any help.
Ewan

[Kaff]

No luck I'm afraid.Someone with far more knowledge than me might be able to tell you if the 1891 Census is complete.

Perhaps they emigrated??

[Mutley]

I cannot see any of them
sorry :(

[busyglen]

I looked earlier, but couldn't find them. There was a young Ernest living in Southsea,, and shown as a Grandson. I also found a Robert Mitchell living on the IOW but with an Emma as a wife, not Emily, and a daughter Emma. Could this be the right family and young Ernest was with grandparents? That's all I could find. If you want the details let me know as I didn't save them at the time and can look them up again.

Glenys

[busyglen]

I don't think this is the right one having looked at it again. The head of household is a Mary Mitchell and a Widow, with her brother and another of her family. The boy was shown as born in Southsea, and 7 years old which is too young. Sorry, but worth a try.

Glenys

[Jan1954]

'Tis always worth looking for Ernest spelt EARNEST and, with the surname beginning with M, have a look at W and H as well. ;)

Have you found any of them in 1901, by any chance? If not, as Kaff said, could they have emigrated?

[Mutley]

By searching for the surname only and born in Ryde an Emily pops up, I don't think she is yours because she is not married but maybe a connection.

Emily Mitchell Head Single born 1840 in Ryde, age 51
Emily Mitchell daughter Single born 1868 in Ryde, age 23
Elen Mitchell niece born 1883 in Ryde, age 8

living at 3 Arthur Street. RG12/890. F. 29 P. 14

None of the other names seem to be around anywhere.

[ewan]

Glenys, that could be Ernest that you have found living in Southsea, because I have found that sometimes an Emily can use the name of Emma and vice versa and that may be his parents, Robert and Emily/Emma living on the IOW. As for the birthplace being Southsea as opposed to IOW and the age being slightly out, perhaps the grandparents may not have known exact details of their grandson. Would you be able to send the details anyway regarding Ernest Mitchell, Robert and Emma Mitchell for me please?

Jan, No I haven't found any of them in 1901 as yet.

Mutley, I don't have access to the 1891 census, so I can't check out the one you found, when I go to the library next I will have a look though.

Thank you all so much for your help, and especially even if you have helped look but have not been unable to find anything related, at least I know others have searched for me.

Ewan

[busyglen]

Bear with me Ewan, I'm just trying to locate them again.

Glenys

[busyglen]

Right Ewan, here we go:

RG12/0875/F51/P7
118 Lawrence Rd., Landport

MITCHELL, Robert, head, 49, Collector, b. Northwood IOW
MITCHELL, Emma, wife, 44, b. Portsmouth, Hants
MITCHELL, Emma, daur, 20, b. " "

I'm not too sure that this will fit in with your family but here goes:

RG12/0851 Sorry cant see the folio number.

MITCHELL, Mary head, Wid.,51, Living on own means b. Portsmouth Hants
SMITH, Joanna, Mother, 75, Living on own means, b. " "
MITCHELL, Mary B. Daur,. 17, b. Havant, Hants
MITCHELL, Edmund B. Son, 14, scholar b. Havant, Hants
CRUSE, Jessie, visitor, 16, scholar b. Southsea, Hants
CRUSE, Frederick, visitor, 12, scholar b. Southampton,
MITCHELL, Ernest, grandson, 7, b. Southsea Hants.


Not sure whether the Mary is Robert's sister or not as they are similar ages, but if she was, she wouldn't be the Grandmother of Ernest. Hope you can sort this out if indeed this family is linked to your Ernest.

Glenys

[ewan]

Thank you for your help Glenys, I am not sure about the family, Robert, Emma and Emma that you kindly posted. I will keep it on file in case I can find a connection later.
Thanks again
Ewan

[busyglen]

Thank you for your help Glenys, I am not sure about the family, Robert, Emma and Emma that you kindly posted. I will keep it on file in case I can find a connection later.
Thanks again
Ewan
No problem Ewan, I thought it might be a red herring, but stranger things have happened.

I have dismissed possibles in the past, and then months later found that it was the one I wanted after all!

Good luck!

Glenys

[ewan]

No problem Ewan, I thought it might be a red herring, but stranger things have happened.

I have dismissed possibles in the past, and then months later found that it was the one I wanted after all!

Good luck!

Glenys

I have often kept information of file that didn't quite add up, to find at a much later date, sometimes years later, that there is a connection that helped me knock down a brick wall.

Thanks again
Ewan

[idredge]

Hi

I have looked in 1881 and couldn't find him, 1911 I couldn't find him either.

1891 I found a Ernest Mitchel born 1881 with parents William and Emma, (you mentioned Emma or Emily) but he was living in Landport, Portsea Portsmouth, brothers William 1880, Frederick 1883 and Sydney 1887. All born Portsea or Landport.

Irene

[ewan]

Hello Irene many thanks for your reply with help. I found Ernest Mitchell with his parents Robert and Emily Mitchell on the 1881 living at 13 Newport Street Ryde with this reference number -RG1 178 50 52

I am not sure if the family you have found on the 1891 is the family from 1881, the year of birth is good but the parents you found are a William instead of a Robert, and there is no mention of an older brother named William.

Thanks for your help again, much appreciated.
Ewan

[Ann E]

Hi Ewan,
I don’t know if this helps, there was a marriage on
16 Sep 1866. MITCHELL Robert 25 & HINES Emily 27
Possible children
MITCHELL, Emily, Ada 1867 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Edward 1870 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Robert 1872 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Henry 1878 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Ernest 1881 HINES Ryde
------possible niece
MITCHELL, Emily, Annie 1883 WILLIAMS Ryde
MITCHELL, Ellen, Frances 1884 none Calbourne
MITCHELL, Emma, Kate 1884 RANN Newport.
Ann E

[ewan]

Hi Ewan,
I don’t know if this helps, there was a marriage on
16 Sep 1866. MITCHELL Robert 25 & HINES Emily 27
Possible children
MITCHELL, Emily, Ada 1867 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Edward 1870 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Robert 1872 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Henry 1878 HINES Ryde
MITCHELL, Ernest 1881 HINES Ryde
------possible niece
MITCHELL, Emily, Annie 1883 WILLIAMS Ryde
MITCHELL, Ellen, Frances 1884 none Calbourne
MITCHELL, Emma, Kate 1884 RANN Newport.
Ann E

Hello Ann and thank your for your time and work finding out information regarding the marriage and births of Robert and Emily Mitchell.

I have given up on trying to establish the whereabouts of Ernest Mitchell, I am now concentrating on trying to find Alice Mitchell (from the 1881 census of the same family aged 12 born Ryde) on the 1891 census.

According to the IOW bmds most of this couples children have the 'other surname' of Hines, but Alice from this family looks to have the 'other surname' of Hendy, which has confused me.

If anyone is able to trace her on the 1891 I would be most grateful.

Thank you
Ewan