John Devine

[ROSIA12]

Hi am trying to fing out any details about a John Devine born c1785 to a family of clerical headwear makers in Dublin.

[Jan1954]

Hello ROSIA12,

What information do you already have about John Devine, apart from that he was born c1785?

Do you have his baptism records? Dublin was a bit of a melting pot when it came to religion: Church of Ireland, Catholic, plus Baptists, Presbyterians, Quakers etc.

[ROSIA12]

Nothing else I am afraid apart from the fact his family were Catholic.

[Brendan Joseph]

Results from Dublin Heritage:


Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Surname Firstname Parish
11-06-1844 11-06-1844 Devine John Rathfarnham R.c
23-11-1856 23-11-1856 Devine John Rathfarnham R.c
08-07-1789 08-07-1789 Devine John St Michael And John


Brendan

[ROSIA12]

thank you Brendan, do these records give any family details, as I know at some stage the family moved to Leeds England and the trail picks upagain with John born Leeds 1870.

[Jan1954]

If you can contact the National Library of Ireland, they may be able to find details of the family in Wilson's Alphabetical List. However, one of these (http://www.parishchest.com/shop/index.php?cmd=listlinkeditems&cat=D7787&supplier=&breadcrumb=Directories%3A+Ireland:Directories+of+I reland+listed+by+Product) may also be of help. :)

[ROSIA12]

Thank you Jan1954 am off investigating.

[ROSIA12]

Nothing available on line so will have to write to them , don;t really want to fork out for the books incase there is nothing of any help.

[obbie]

lots of john devine records on www.irishgenealogy.ie
one for 1789 dad william ma mary

[holliegavin]

Oh this is really interesting! My Husband's family are called Devine, and Im really struggling with finding anything out.

I *think* I have this righ, dates may be off a littlet:
Winifred Abrahams was born in 1928 in Lancashire to Albert Abrahams (1908) and Winifred Mary Devine (1903).
I believe that Winified M Devine was born to John and Mary Ellen Devine but I can not find any dates for their births only that possibly they came from Dublin. I can not find a maiden name for Mary Ellen but it may be Connor Clark(e) according to an elderly relative.

Can anyone shed any light? Would be very grateful! x

[obbie]

they married in 1927 if you have there marriage cert (1927 Manchester N 8d 1119 ) whats winifreds fathers name and occupation ? alive or dead ? address ?
theres no winifred devine on irish 1901 census but theres one on 1911 census shes only 4 from and livin in mayo . mother honora .
lookin at english 1911 census theres several winifreds of the right age .
a john devine married mary ellen farmer manchester march 1891 8d 387 .
on 1901 english census john and mary e and son edward 9 (couple above ?) anthony 5 margaret 3 livin south manchester ardwick st silas , john devine born ireland circa 1864 .
winifred devine s.shields 10a 914 m 1903 . theres one born 1901 1902 1904 1906 as well .
do you know any siblings names ?

[holliegavin]

Obbie, firstly thank you so very much for your time here, it is genuinely appreciated.

I'm using the records available via ancestry.co.uk, so I have been able to view a marriage registration (not their individual certificate) only, for 1927. It says they married in Norther Manchester. Unfortunately it does not provide any further details.

I have looked up the suggestions and all seems very much to fit. My Mother in Law (Winifred Devine's Grand-Daughter) is quite confident that she had an Irish accent and was born in Ireland but I think it's just John Devine from Ireland and the Farmer's look like they were from Oldham which is where much of the family now live and have always lived.

From what I think is correct is that Winifred Devine married Albert Abrahams who had Winifred Abrahams in around 1928.

Thank you so very much once again

[obbie]

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
i would say have a look here , its free , births deaths marriages , can be searched by surname or first name , place or date .
when you put in family in fo from previous post on ancestry press search family trees button , somone has the 5 family members from 1901 census as tree , might be worth contacting the person who posted .