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Sixess
01-10-2009, 5:58 AM
Payment options for Will copies at York Probate Sub Registry are restricted to "crossed cheque" if sought through the post. As a non resident of the UK and thereby forced to apply through the post, it seems amazing that in these days payment cannot be made by credit card. From where I write there are no postal money orders available to UK, and bank charge for issue of a sterling cheque for copy of (1) Will is close to three times more than the HMCS search/copy charge. Could anyone please advise whether there may be other avenues to obtain copies.

Peter Goodey
01-10-2009, 7:04 AM
You need a "friend" in this country who is prepared to write a cheque on your behalf.

Peter_uk_can
01-10-2009, 3:37 PM
It's England Sixess !! Think your self lucky you weren't asked for 2 staves of wheat and a pound of apples in payment.

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joette
01-10-2009, 3:40 PM
Just think if your ancestors had had the good sense to die in Scotland you could obtain & download a copy of their Will for £5-up until around 1905 I think.

ET in the USA
01-10-2009, 5:31 PM
Payment options for Will copies at York Probate Sub Registry are restricted to "crossed cheque" if sought through the post. As a non resident of the UK and thereby forced to apply through the post, it seems amazing that in these days payment cannot be made by credit card. From where I write there are no postal money orders available to UK, and bank charge for issue of a sterling cheque for copy of (1) Will is close to three times more than the HMCS search/copy charge. Could anyone please advise whether there may be other avenues to obtain copies.

The words "dark ages" come to mind.

I just looked at First Avenue House in London, thinking they might be more 'with it'. No luck. I guess that is why we go to England each year to visit family & make a side trip to the Probate Registry in Cardiff. We can pay cash. I thought that since the GRO allows payment online for certificates, that wills would be the same.

Even is you found a 'friend', how would you pay them ?
I know what you mean about fees for drafts being high. A pound draft from here, whether for 1 GBP or 10,000 GBP still costs US$35.00 or approximately 22GBP or 40AUD. |soapbox|

Peter Goodey
01-10-2009, 5:59 PM
Even is you found a 'friend', how would you pay them ?

OK. A "friend" in the UK with a PayPal account. This allows anyone else without a PayPal account to make secure payments to the UK friend using a credit card.

v.wells
01-10-2009, 7:02 PM
I have sent postal money order in sterling to person's address in the UK. (or you could just send a thankyou card with cash £ enclosed). You must have an element of trust to do this and exchange email addresses to confirm receipt/payment. Another thought is to send money to the kind person in Aus $ including the conversion value - that way they can just hop into Barclay's and change it. I always round up to even denomination to cover mailing costs.

Sixess
01-10-2009, 11:16 PM
Thanks for all helpful and 'consoling' messages !
My problem must be common for most non-UK residents and hopefully, someday, surely, payment for copies of Wills will move to a 21st century method.
In the meantime a UK "friend" has offered much appreciated assistance on a reciprocal search/cost basis in Australia.

Vance Mead
02-10-2009, 9:48 AM
Whenever I've ordered wills I've just put a five pound note (for one will) in the envelope. I know they discourage it, but it's always worked for me. Mostly they are very helpful at the record offices.

aquiss
02-10-2009, 6:44 PM
I can assure you the UK is not that backward, infact when it comes to Internet payments we are right up there. We introduced Debit Cards before most, if not all, countries. Introduced chip and pin early (after France). Deployed Verified by Visa and 3D Secure.

It's just sad that York (which is a modern city) Probate have not progressed beyond 1990, especially as cheques, especially in the UK, are just a few years away from being phased out.

ET in the USA
02-10-2009, 10:26 PM
It's just sad that York (which is a modern city) Probate have not progressed beyond 1990, especially as cheques, especially in the UK, are just a few years away from being phased out.
From their webpage, it doesn't seem like First Avenue House, London is any more advanced in payment methods.

Perhaps working with Probate & Wills of deceased individuals makes them all work & think in the past |biggrin|

Aussie Shep
25-11-2009, 5:57 AM
I received a copy of my GT Gt Grandfathers will today, from HMCS I read all the posts re: payment and paying from australia would of cost me a lot of money. So I placed 5pounds in the mail and three weeks I have my will, I am so thrilled. just wanted to let you know.

michaelpipe
25-11-2009, 6:44 AM
I can assure you the UK is not that backward, infact when it comes to Internet payments we are right up there. We introduced Debit Cards before most, if not all, countries. Introduced chip and pin early (after France). Deployed Verified by Visa and 3D Secure.

It's just sad that York (which is a modern city) Probate have not progressed beyond 1990, especially as cheques, especially in the UK, are just a few years away from being phased out.

Unfortunately there are several Records offices in the UK (not only York) who do not accept on line transactions. I have to agree with the term 'prehistoric', as I have had no end of complication finding creative ways of paying for copies.

Rove
25-11-2009, 6:57 AM
I'm in Melbourne Aust

I've had a Bank account with the Barclays Bank in Hampshire England for the past 15 years.

I've found it very handy to make payments in UK for items I purchase.

The account is totally free of charges. They send me a quarterly statement.

This was suggested to me when I joined The Victorian Genealogy Society in Melbourne back in 1994.

Now to top up your account you need to make a Bank transfer. Some Banks here in Melbourne charge about $22 Aust dollars for the service BUT the Bank of Bendigo where i have a small account only charge me $8 Aust dollars.

I reckon its the best way to go.

Forgot to mention, the account is free plus they usually give me a few pennies as interest.

Not sure, I think the Bank of Bendigo has joined up with another Aussie Bank.

Do check up.

arthurk
25-11-2009, 4:21 PM
For anyone in Australia, I recently read that the Genealogical Society of Victoria and the Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies (and possibly other bodies too) are able to provide sterling cheques. There's a fee involved, but it might be cheaper than a bank. And obviously I've never needed to do this myself, so I don't know how efficient it is.

Arthur