William Sugden - Kidderminster - 1861 census

[ziksby]

Could SKS with access to the 1861 census find William Sugden (b. Yorkshire 1830) probably married to Eliza and with a son Frederick W in Kidderminster.
FreeBMD shows a marriage in 1855 but no spouse listed. Many thanks.

[Lottie]

Do you know at which Church they married ? It could narrow the Census search.
The 1861 is not indexed and covers 3 and bit Cd's.

Lottie
New Zealand

[ziksby]

William Sugden was a complete unknown until I discovered him 2 weeks ago; born in Oakworth, Keighley, Yorks. in 1830, and dying in Abergavenny in 1902. Between times he was a timber and coal merchant in Kidderminster, Malvern, Oswestry, and several places in Wales. He appears to have been married 2 or 3 times. He was involved in the coal trade in several towns with my great grandfather. He was in Kidderminster between 1855 and 1870, but I have no other details. Will have to send for certificates.

[Lottie]

From Kelly's 1860 Directory of Worcestershire -
published by Archive CD Books (http://www.parishchest.com/en-gb/dept_683.html)

Kidderminster

SUGDEN William & Co. Bobbin & Shuttle Manufacturers Stour Vale Mills & 56 Stourbridge Street.

Now I will attempt to locate him and wife/family in 1861 Census - be back asap.

Lottie

New Zealand

[ziksby]

Excellent Lottie,

That makes sense ... came from Yorkshire where he was probably involved in the weaving industry. I'm currently trawling through www.historicaldirectories.org (http://www.historicaldirectories.org)
trying to find him as a coal merchant in South Wales. One hit so far in Brecon.
many thanks for your time and I await with baited breath for more.

[Lottie]

Have found Wm SUGDEN and Family ( wife Ann ) in 1871 , still living in Stourbridge Street- do you have that info. ?

Not in Stourbridge Street in 1861 - still looking in the General Area -

Lottie
Down Under

[Lottie]

From 1861 Census of Worcestershire

District Kidderminster : Sub District Kidderminster Foreign : Ward South ; Town Kidderminster

RG9/2080 Folio 30 Page 23
Sched: 130; Hoo Lane
SUGDEN William Head M 30 Shuttle & Bobbin Manf. Emp. 3 men 1 woman 8 boys

Born Keighley/YKS
" Ann Wife M 25 Born Kidderminster/WOR
" Martha H Dau U 3 " "
" Frederick W Son U 1 " "

" John Brthr U 20 Bobbin Maker Born Keighley /YKS
" Robert " " 16 " " "

Lottie

[ziksby]

Many thanks for that Lottie, hope it wasn't too much of an ordeal. The sight of brothers Robert and John explains their appearance on later censuses and marriages in Kidderminster.

I only have partial info on 1971 from an unsubscribed Ancestry search.
I found all these Sugdens in Kidderminster ...
Ann age 35 born Worcs
Arthur M 11 London
Clara S 5mths Worcs
Edith Mary 3 Worcs
George W 2 Worcs
Martha Ann 13 Worcs
Robert 26 York
Sarah Ann 6 Worcs
Louisa M 24 Worcs
Martha J 4 Worcs
Edith K 4 Wolverly

I assume that some of these are Robert/Louisa's children.

So Yes .... if you could let me have the actual 1871 census page info that would be most helpful.

[Lottie]

1871 it is !!

RG10/3033 Folio 160 Page 32

District Kidderminster : Ward : North ;Parish St Mary's
Sched: 217 61 Stourbridge Road
SUGDEN William Head M 40 Timber Merchant Born Keighly/YKS
Ann Wife M 35 Born Kidderminster/WOR
Martha Ann Dau U 13 Scholar " "
Frederick W Son U 11 " " "
Ellen Dau U 8 " " "
Sarah Ann " " 6 " Born Blakedown/WOR
Harry Son " 4 " " Kidderminster/WOR
Edith Mary Dau " 3 " " "
Kate Eliz. " " 4mths " " "
PRICE Mary Ann Serv. ' 20 General Servant " Muster? /GLS

ÞN William Head M 40 Timber Merchant Born Keighly/YKS</P>Ann Wife M 35 Born Kidderminster/WOR
Martha Ann Dau U 13 Scholar " "
Frederick W Son U 11 " " "
Ellen Dau U 8 " " "
Sarah Ann " " 6 " Born Blakedown/WOR
Harry Son " 4 " " Kidderminster/WOR
Edith Mary Dau " 3 " " "
Kate Eliz. " " 4mths " " "
PRICE Mary Ann Serv. ' 20 General Servant " Muster? /GLS

Lottie

Will send Robert's Family in Kidderminster -John appears to married and moved to Preston,LAN.

[Lottie]

1871 Kidderminster/WOR
District Kidderminster : Township Wolverley
RG10/3032 Folio 47 Page 34
Sched. 182 Blake Down

SUGDEN Robert Head 26 Shuttle Maker Born Keighley/YKS
Louisa M Wife 24 Born Kidderminster/WOR
Folio 48 Page 35
George Son 2 Born Wolverley/WOR
Clara M Dau 5½mths " "

Lottie
|woohoo|

[ziksby]

As you say .......|woohoo|

Many thanks once again. You are a star!

PS Yes I just found John in Preston.

[Jo Simpsons]

Just jumping in here, sorry!

What lovely words in your signature Ziksby.
Jo :)

[ziksby]

Thank you Jo
One or two members have asked about them...
The first lines are by William Allingham, Irish poet (1824-89)
The second are from Walt Whitman's "Song of Myself"