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sueannbowen
18-09-2009, 6:50 PM
I have just found a very tenuous family link to a public tree on Ancesspit. The person who owns said tree has 18000+ names on it. It goes back to 1110! On one entry for 1444 it cites as a source something called a Millenium file. What on earth is that? they also seem to have nicked other bits from other people's trees and sort of added them in. What's that about?

The stuff relating to my link seems to be garnered from Free BMD, odd bits of census and no hard evidence whatsoever. Also I see a striking similarity to stuff about my family (immediate) which has been entered onto Familysearch by a member of the LDS which is WRONG WRONG WRONG. Why on earth do 'they' let 'them' enter unsubstantiated rubbish?

Why would anyone want 18,000 names if they were rubbish?

I had to move my own post from General Chatter across to here as I found I was rant-typing.
|soapbox|

Sue
Sorry to anyone who has 18,000 names and is very happy with them!!:D

pottoka
18-09-2009, 7:02 PM
I love your name for the site you're talking about http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Happy/happy-054.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Happy-Smileys.html). I'd not heard that one before.

P.S. I have 180,000 names in my tree http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Nature/island-025.gif (http://freesmileyface.net)

P.P.S. It's not true http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Laughing/lol-033.gif (http://freesmileyface.net)

sueannbowen
18-09-2009, 7:05 PM
Can't take the credit - it's Vanessa's. I don't even have 18,000 leaves on mine. Well especially now its autum and they are falling off!

|jumphappy

margarita
18-09-2009, 8:06 PM
..................cites as a source something called a Millenium file. What on earth is that?


I seem to have vaguely heard of that.

Was it something on the LDS Site at the time of the Millennium?

I am sure someone more expert than me will come along with all the info.

Regards,

maggie

v.wells
18-09-2009, 8:37 PM
Isn't that another name for One World Tree which is a conglomeration of all the public trees left on the site by people not deleting them first? At least that was my impression. All I know is to NEVER add from OWT or the Millionaire file.

I borrowed Ancesspit from Susan-y who is at present in her new-old home painting, painting and doing more painting!

v.wells
18-09-2009, 8:45 PM
"The Millennium File is a database created by the Institute of Family
Research to track the records of its clients and the results of its
professional research. It contains more than 880,000 linked family
records, with lineages from throughout the world, including colonial
America, the British Isles, Switzerland, and Germany. One of the focuses
of the Millennium File is linking to European nobility and royalty....I think you better treat it like IGI as a pointer for you to repeat and
verify the research yourself"

And it is found on ancesspit.com the US site. I also read mention of LDS.

googled it, so Margarita is right and deserves a Margarita:D

margarita
18-09-2009, 9:03 PM
.............so Margarita is right and deserves a Margarita:D

Phew, not so brain-dead after all.

Thank you.

Regards,

maggie

Nicolina
18-09-2009, 9:15 PM
I totally agree about the submitted entries on the LDS site. I wasted months looking for my Grandfather's sister. He never had one. I then found my father's details on there which I did manage to get deleted but not before they were put onto CD and sold. Dad's still turning in his grave and my 89 year old mother is spitting feathers.

sueannbowen
18-09-2009, 9:16 PM
"The Millennium File is a database created by the Institute of Family
Research to track the records of its clients and the results of its
professional research. It contains more than 880,000 linked family
records, with lineages from throughout the world, including colonial
America, the British Isles, Switzerland, and Germany. One of the focuses
of the Millennium File is linking to European nobility and royalty....I think you better treat it like IGI as a pointer for you to repeat and
verify the research yourself"

And it is found on ancesspit.com the US site. I also read mention of LDS.

googled it, so Margarita is right and deserves a Margarita:D

Ha thanks both! No wonder! but still I am left with why on earth you would? Do they really believe this tripe?


Sx who is clearly getting ever more cynical in her old age.

MythicalMarian
18-09-2009, 10:22 PM
I love the Ancesspit name - I'm adopting it from now on! :D

Just been updating a few details on my private one on there and for fun typed my grandad Val into the search boxes. Felt smug when he came up with 7 attached records and 25 sources :D However, I saw a tree called 'Peerage' owned by a lady in America who actually had my grandad in her tree because his daughter married a Leigh (I think she was concentrating on posh Leighs somewhere - God help them!) I had a chuckle that my blacksmith's striker from Gorton, and my window cleaner from Gorton were in a peerage tree, and then I sent her a comment on my grandad's page, simply asking: What the hell is my grandfather doing in this tree?

However, she hasn't logged in for over 6 months so I don't expect a reply ;)

I've stopped getting het up about it all now - I just laugh it all off. My Val has 25 sources of my own - I'm happy; the others can go hang.

Nicolina
19-09-2009, 12:22 AM
don't be surprised if you do get a reply. I entered my 3xGreat Grandmother's name into Google and got a link to a message board. Sure enough there was a posting, over 2 years old. I posted a reply ot expecting to have an answer after so long but hoping. About four days later I had a reply saying that she was their 3xGreat Grandmother. Together we have catalogued her long life from birth to death.

pottoka
19-09-2009, 12:32 AM
I'd noticed that OneWorldTree had disappeared. I was a bit cheesed off about that as I wanted to correct some information on it about some of my ancestors which has been copied into numerous trees, although it's easy enough to look up and disprove with an A* subscription. Still, if they're happy to be stupid, it's no skin off my nose; I know that I've got the right information.

emmteeyess
04-01-2010, 9:22 AM
|wave|
Way back I exchanged info and certificates with a not too distant cousin - and I was satisfied with the 'deal', a fair exchange, possbly in my favour - anyway -

A while later I was generally searching t'internet and found 'new' info on the LDS site - |woohoo| - only to find that it was all my original info uploaded! |doh|(including a family nickname that wasn't on any official documents, which was what alerted me!)

I had to make some allowances as my cousin was/is a Mormon and as I understand it, their point of family history is to have their ancestors postumously baptised. (A noble intention, whether you believe in it yourself or not).
I just had to be carefull not to accept these 'new' findings as confirmation and cross references of my data.

Cheers, Michael

spison
04-01-2010, 10:25 PM
I totally agree about the submitted entries on the LDS site. I wasted months looking for my Grandfather's sister. He never had one. I then found my father's details on there which I did manage to get deleted but not before they were put onto CD and sold. Dad's still turning in his grave and my 89 year old mother is spitting feathers.

I can't vouch for later entries but when picking up my mother's extensive investigations (and learning about the family) that she'd thoroughly and carefully researched, I did discover that some of the earlier submitted entries for my people were taken from the Bishop's Transcripts. Unfortunately there's never any reputable sources stated in the IGI for these submitted records (except the film numbers) so you can never be sure! |scold|

Jane

Hils Hoppo
04-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Oh this is one of my 'soapbox' topics! I recently contacted someone in America who had 'woven' a whole branch of my tree into theirs to inform that that none of these people were remotely related to them and had certainly never set foot in the US! I never had a word of thanks from them - well there's a surprise. Bet they were well miffed!

As for having trillions of names on your tree I quite agree - just what IS the point? I'm more than happy with my 300+ and I now only add people who are not direct line if they have an interesting past or are particularly relevent to a direct ancestors life - such as the sister-in-law who died in childbirth and the baby was taken into my grandma's family to be brought up. It's things like that which make the tree have 'life' not having half the population of the world on your tree!

OK I'll put soapbox away now for tonight :-)|soapbox|