Crow Family- Sedgley

[jamescrow]

Trying to get more info re my ancestor WILLIAM CROW (1811-1880) b. in Sedgley, married Martha Betney (1806-1876) b. Bilston.
Only have the details from the 1841 census, when they were miners in Pelsall, Nr.Walsall with a young family.
Anyone with any connections, or ideas where best to find the information I'm after?

Many thanks in anticipation,

James Crow

[Thomasin]

Hallo James, welcome to B-G.

You say you only have the details from the 1841 census. Here they are in 1861:

William Crow Head 50 Coker ?Steam b. Sedgley Staffs
Martha Crow Wife 52 b. Bilston Staffs
Edward Crow Son 21 Shoe Maker b. Pelsall Staffs
Abel Crow Son 19 Coker b. Pelsall Staffs
Aurther Crow Nephew 17 Coker b. Sedgley Staffs
William Steel Grandson 6 b. Cosley Staffs

St Ann Street, Willenhall
RG09; 2001; 85; 13.

Thomasin

[Thomasin]

Looking at the 1851 census -

William Crow 40 Coke Burner b. Sedgley
Martha Crow 40 b. Sedgley(!)
Samuel Crow 10 b. Sedgley
Elizabeth Crow 16 b. Sedgley
Edward Crow 11 b. Sedgley
Abel Crow 8 b. Sedgley
Henry Clews Lodger 16 b. Bloxwich

Deepfields, Sedgley or Cosley
HO107; 2031; page 1

There's a possibly marriage for Elizabeth December quarter 1851, Dudley district, which encompasses Sedgley, and John Fleet is on the page. I am wondering if the grandson William 'Steel' may actually be William Fleet (although it does look like Steel on the image).

Thomasin

[jamescrow]

Thanks v. much for your response. I actually have done nearly all searches post 1841, but it is prior to that I have no information yet, and would be grateful if you could post me in the right direction. I have come across possible Betney family members still in the Bilston area, but nothing for the Crow side.

[janbooth]

I think you will have to consult the parish registers of both Sedgley & Bilston as nothing appears to come up for a baptism of William CROW around 1811 nor his marriage on the IGI. I can't find any CDs or microfiche available to purchase for Sedgley around that period so your only other avenue is to go to Staffordshire Record Office or hire the Bishops Transcripts of Sedgley (film no 421589 - Baptisms, burials & marriages 1809-1817) to view in situ at your nearest LDS Family History Centre. You can find out where this is by looking on the Home page of Family Search website. The LDS have also filmed the Parish Registers of St Leonard, Bilston.

HTH

Janet

[jamescrow]

Thanks for the advice- I will pursue the avenues you mention.

[blackiris]

Hi James
It seems that we are both researching the same family. My mother is a Crowe, as you see with an 'e'. Some branches of the family took the final 'e'. In the census and BMD the name can vary from one to the other for the same family/person.

As to pre 1841 I found these items that may be of interest to you (some on the 'freereg' site). These need to be checked against the oringinal copies.
Freereg-
Baptism- Wiiliam Crow 14 Dec 1828, St Leonards Bilston, Reg No 42312. Parents William Crow (Collier)/ Martha.
Abode Coseley, Sedgley (Notes recorded by Wiiliam Leigh)

IGI C010564-
Bap. James Crow 31 Oct 1830 Bilston (St Leonards?). Parents William & martha Crow.

I also noted the possible marriage of Elizabeth Crow & John Fleet, 2 Nov St Thomas Dudley IGI M040142

Let me know if you would like to exchange any info.

[jamescrow]

Iris,

Thanks very much for posting some info about the Crow(e)s; this coincides with my details thus far, confirmed by checking the St.Leonard's, Bilston, records in Wolverhampton recently.

I hope to visit Dudley archives during the next week or so to see if I can find William's marriage to Martha Betney, as nothing appears in Wolverhampton archives in the Bilston or Wolverhampton area, but as William was given as born on Sedgley area, I believe the records in Dudley go back as far as 1558.

So you are a Crowe? Where do your direct lines take you back?

Best Wishes,

James

[blackiris]

Hi James
It seems there are quite a few people researching Martha and William's line. Some have Martha as Betney and from Bilston. It would be great if this could be confirmed one way or another. I too have checked the Bilston records, as far as I could online, to little avail. Just a thought, have you tried the Walsall records? The family seems to have moved between Bilston, Walsall(Pelsall), Willenhall and Wolverhampton areas a lot. Seems that William and Martha ended up back in Sedgley once the family had grown.

My family line - From William/Martha
William/Martha - Abel/Ann Wright - Edward/AgnesCassells - Thomas Edward(Ted)/Florence Evelyn Tart - My mother

Just curious. I have found a number of baptisms at Swan GardensWeslyan Methodist (nr St Matthews). The children of William Henry Crowe (1864). These are recorded by Edward Crowe. Is he William's brother and could this Edward be my Great grandfather? My Aunt says that he was a religious man.
The abode at the time of these bap was Chillington Cottage, Willenhall Rd. I'm sure I remember seeing this building from the Wolverhampton-Willenhall bus. Does it still exist, or am I dreaming it?
Good luck in Dudley, and let me know how the search goes. Fingers crossed.

Regards Michelle

[LittleSpark]

Hi James,
Try looking at All Saints, Sedgley 1558-1964 or St. Thomas, Dudley (Top Church) 1541-1981.
Sedgley is only about a mile from Dudley Town Centre so they may have married there.

Good luck
Sheila