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scooby
24-03-2005, 10:44 AM
Hiya all.
I am trying to find a maiden name so I can carry the search on.
I have Squire Radcliffe married Sarah Ann ?
Sarah seems to have been born mid 1840's. The census age keeps changing.
She also seems to have been born in Norfolk, again this keeps changing. I have Wakenpen Norfolk and Great Snoring Norfolk.
Squire seems to have been born late 1830's early 1840's in Halifax, or Loaby Bridge Yorkshire.
I would like to get the marriage certificate so I can carry on with this.
Also does anyone know where you can put posts for finding people alive.
Thank-you :)
uksearch
24-03-2005, 1:55 PM
I have come across this mans name somewhere before,but I can't remember quite when or where but I know it was to do with his wedding.Its on the IGI.
1851 Marriage Solemnized at the Cathedral & Parish Church of Manchester in the County of Lancaster.
July 14th Squire RADCLIFFE,40,Bachelor,Wooollen Manufacturer,Bury.Father,John RADCLIFFE,Woollen Manufacturer &
Sarah HIGGINS,38,Spinster.Devonshire St,Chorlton On Medlock.Father.William HIGGINS,Fustian Cutter.Married...by Licence...Witnessed by Richard HIGGINS & E MILNES.
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uksearch
24-03-2005, 8:02 PM
I do not have have easy access to the 1851 Census for Bury so I will not be able to check it for Squire RADCLIFFE.
As for Devonshire St,C on M there is bad news and good news.The bad news is that some of the 1851 Manchester Census returns were so badly water damaged that many parts of the films are unreadable or the PRO do not even bother to film certain areas.I think that Devonshire St falls into the latter category.However the good news is some time ago M&LFHS read some of these films with the help of UV light (I think) and transcribed them onto fiche.Even this process still rendered certain parts unreadable.I'll take a look on Tuesday to see if I can see Sarah HIGGINS.
I had a quick look on Ancestry for the 1871 Census.I did find a Squire RADCLIFFE aged 61 living in Halifax (RG 10 4400 f 70),but his wife was Susannah aged 70.I realise Sarah could have died and Squire may have remarried.The GRO has a Manchester death registered June qtr 1855 for a Sarah RADCLIFFE,not an uncommon name.
Perhaps another avenue to follow if Sarah can't be found on the 1851 Census is the Marriage Licence,which could provide some useful information.
UK
Geoffers
24-03-2005, 10:03 PM
Sarah seems to have been born mid 1840's. The census age keeps changing. She also seems to have been born in Norfolk, again this keeps changing. I have Wakenpen Norfolk and Great Snoring Norfolk.I've never heard of Wakenpen in Norfolk - would this be from a census transcript? If the 'Wa' bit at the beginning is correct, I suspect it may be (one of the places called) Walsingham. If the 'ake' part is correct then it may be Fakenham.
Geoffers
scooby
25-03-2005, 10:41 AM
Hiya Geffers
Yes this info was from the census. I dont know much but I did notice the ages didnt add up.
scooby
25-03-2005, 10:51 AM
Hiya UKsearch
Sorry what does IGI mean????? You can tell I am new to this lol.
I have just read the informationyou gave mean the only thing is their ages, but then I am not 100% sure if I have the yrs right.
I did find something that could also possibly be wrong on but I have beentold they could have been married 1969, god knows where that came from but its something I suppose.
It is fantastic that you have done all that for me.
I have not been able to get any where with my ggreat grandparents.
I can tell you they had at least 9-10 children. WOW
Once again thanks for your help :)
Procat
25-03-2005, 12:34 PM
Hiya UKsearch
Sorry what does IGI mean?????
IGI is the International Genealogical Index.
It is maintained by the Church of Latter Day Saints and can be found at:
http://www.familysearch.org/
It can lead you down wonderful paths in finding your ancestors or it can lead you down the wrong path entirely.
If the information that you find has been submitted by a member of the LDS church treat with caution. It may well be correct or equally it may be a best guess that someone has made.
If the information has been "Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record." there is an extremely high probability it is correct as it has usually been extracted from original records. Keep in mind of course that just because the information is correct doesn't mean it is your missing relative - cross check as much as you can.
If you do find an entry it always pays to check it is recorded correctly.
You can do this by visiting the local FHS branch of the LDS and perusing the films. You may have to request them to call the film for you and there is a nominal charge for this service. Also many genealogical societies have or can borrow the films
uksearch
26-03-2005, 3:08 PM
Doug,
Many thanks for adding your thoughts about the IGI.
And to Scooby
As per IGI there was a "Squire Arthur RADCLIFFE male birth 16 th April 1859 at Sowerby near Halifax,YKS".His parents were Joseph & Mary RADCLIFFE
UK
scooby
29-03-2005, 2:02 PM
Hiya
Thanks Procat I have learned something new.
I have been doing some research on the site you mentioned, but I dont seem to come up with much, duh @ me lol.
I also looked into the film clips you mention and while Oldham Libarays where willing to help me sort this out by me paying for this and sending it to the libaray where I live now, the libaray here wouldn't help me with it, so that left me at a loss :( I no longer live up north so its going to be a hard one this way.
Right more research calling me to try,
scooby
29-03-2005, 2:04 PM
As per IGI there was a "Squire Arthur RADCLIFFE male birth 16 th April 1859 at Sowerby near Halifax,YKS".His parents were Joseph & Mary RADCLIFFE
Thanks once again, this is sounding closer if that makes sense
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