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Diane Grant-Salmon
20-03-2005, 05:05 PM
If anyone has this Census CD and is having a boring day, I would greatly appreciate a look-up for my 'missing' Family. I purchased one CD for Somerset 1841 Census which covers my areas ....... but my main family decided to thwart me by moving to Devon!

I've just found out from an 1848 Marriage Cert that Robert was a widower at this marriage, so I've no idea as to his first wife's name, or if there are any more children other than the ones listed (based on the 1851 ) but the area could be Culmstock (HO 107/230)

The ages listed are for 1841.

HONNIBALL/HONIBALL Robert (29) Ag. Lab. b. West Buckland, Somerset
Robert (1) b. West Buckland, Somerset
Sarah? ...... (she is aged 10 in 1851 b. Culmstock, Devon)

Another child (aged 8 on the 1851 Somerset Census, was born in Ley)

Thankyou.

AnnB
21-03-2005, 08:36 PM
Hello Diane
I wasn't having a boring day, but fancied looking at somewhere different! I have looked at the 1841 census for Culmstock and can't find any variation of the name Honniball - sorry :( Do you want me to have a look at any of the Devon parishes surrounding Culmstock?
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
22-03-2005, 10:59 AM
Hello Ann,

It was very kind of you to try and find my family for me, thankyou very much for looking and I'm so sorry that you didn't find them.

To be honest, I was very surprised that I didn't find them in West Buckland with young Robert being born there in 1840, so then I assumed (wrongly) that they would be in Culmstock, as the little girl was born there in 1841, but maybe after the census?

Thankyou for your kind offer, but I know your time is precious and I don't want you to waste any more of it by trawling other Parishes, it's just my luck ran out on this Census! :(

They seem to have moved about a lot -

7 March 1848 Wilton, Somerset - Robert and his second wife married in the Parish Church (both living Wilton at time of marriage)
1849 - West Buckland, Somerset
1851-1853 - Wellington, Somerset
9 Dec 1855 - Nelson's Place, Chippenham, Wiltshire
2 July 1858 - Forest Melksham, Wiltshire
3 Aug 1861 - Marshfield, Gloucestershire ..... took a chance here and bought the 1861 Census for Gloucestershire and I found them. :D
1864-1868 - Siston, Gloucestershire
1870 - Bitton, Gloucestershire
1871 - Nags Head Hill, St. George, Gloucestershire
1881 - Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire

I'll look for little Sarah's birth ref in 1837. com and will order the cert as soon as I can ...... at least I'll find out if she was born before or after the 1841 Census and hopefully, may get an address!

AnnB
22-03-2005, 03:43 PM
Hello Diane

No problem. Should you find the elusive Sarah was in Devon in 1841, let me know where and I'll have a look for her. Bet she was born a day after the census.... ;)
Best wishes
Ann

AnnB
22-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Hello again Diane

Have just found something on Genuki which might be of interest to you. There are parish register transcripts (including West Buckland) and all sorts of other goodies. You may well know about it, but if not you will find it at http://www.parkhouse.org.uk/index.htm I stumbled on it purely by accident and then couldn't think why West Buckland rang a bell, then the light dawned :rolleyes:

Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
23-03-2005, 12:47 AM
Hello Ann,

Thankyou for both your messages, I've only just read them as we had visitors today.

I found two links a few weeks back, the one you have given and another one from 1813-1837 (I think) ...... the latter for just Wellington. That's when I ordered my CD for Somerset for both those areas.

I was lucky and found the transcriptions for Robert's birth and baptism, his Marriage Cert confirmed that his Father was John Honniball - Yeoman. His second wife (Sarah Billings) baptism is listed too, daughter of Thomas - Blacksmith. She was a minor at the marriage in 1848 and both her Parents were witnesses.

I won't be able to check these entries myself unfortunately, but at least I know for sure that I've got the correct set of Parents for both of them! :D

When I've sorted out little Sarah's birth cert ...... I'll leave a message for you on this forum to let you know what it says.

Thanks again for all your help.

Diane Grant-Salmon
23-03-2005, 07:07 PM
Hello Ann,

Just thought I'd let you know that I've found Sarah's Birth Ref in 1837.com and she was born before the Census ...... 1841 Mar Qtr. I'll order the cert as soon as my question has been answered by SKS on another forum here. :)

Knowing my luck ..... they will have moved after her birth and before the Census! |banghead|

AnnB
23-03-2005, 07:54 PM
But they might not have moved too far.... ;) Will keep my fingers crossed.
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
25-03-2005, 10:49 AM
Morning Ann,

I'm so excited .... I just HAD to tell someone, so I hope you don't mind that it's you?!? Someone contacted me via GenesReunited about my Dorice HONNIBALL born in Staple Hill, Gloucestershire and asking how I was connected to her.

I replied saying that she was one of the Grandchildren of my direct Ancestors, Robert and Sarah. I've just received this message this morning from him:

I'm just looking at my chart here, done by Peter Honniball. I have a Robert Honniball (1815-1874) who married twice, firstly Martha Cousens, and secondly Sarah Billings (b.1830). Peter's note reads "Robert had 11 children, 3 by Martha and 8 by Sarah. He was a farm labourer near Bristol". Sounds like he's the ancestor of your Dorice, although I have no names of any of those 11 children.

Do let me know if you'd like more information about the Honniballs of West Buckland. I have a good deal of information here, going back to Robert's great grandfather, John (1710-1782).

I'm not a descendant of Dorice, but she would have been my cousin. The common ancestor is John, as mentioned above.

Good to hear from you!

|woohoo|
Best Wishes,
Diane

AnnB
25-03-2005, 03:52 PM
Course I don't mind you telling me - it's the sort of break we can all do with!
Sounds like you could have a fair amount of information coming your way :)
Best wishes and a Happy Easter
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
26-03-2005, 02:57 PM
Hi Ann,

I've had another breakthrough this morning ..... I found the burial entry for Robert's first wife Martha, on those online transcriptions:

Martha Honniball buried 09 May 1843 at West Buckland.

According to the info I have, Sarah was b. Mar Qtr 1841 before the Census and the next kiddie was born 1842/1843 in Lay/Ley with no County listed. Please read what Guy has to say HERE (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4956) on this thread about it.

You very kindly searched the 1841 for Culmstock and didn't find them, so now I don't really see the point in buying Sarah's birth cert anymore, as that kind chap told me her Mother's maiden name.

If you feel like trawling Ley, that would be wonderful ...... but I do understand if it's too much for you.

AnnB
26-03-2005, 04:02 PM
Hello Diane
No trouble at all, Black Torrington is one of the parishes we have transcribed.
Afraid you are not in luck, unless you recognise any of the names at Ley in 1841
HO107/256 Schedule 10 Folio 3 Page 1
Black Torrington
Ley - surnames of families living there
Lewis
Martyn
Braund
Birch
Higgins
Brown
Watkins
Heads are all Ag Labs
There are a lot of farms in Devon which are called Ley (or Higher Ley, Lower Ley, Little Ley, etc.) It means a field of arable land which has been put down to grass and many years ago could also be used as a term for a water meadow. It is also my maiden name ;)
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
26-03-2005, 06:33 PM
There are a lot of farms in Devon which are called Ley (or Higher Ley, Lower Ley, Little Ley, etc.) It means a field of arable land which has been put down to grass and many years ago could also be used as a term for a water meadow. It is also my maiden name ;)
Best wishes
Ann
Hello Ann,

Thankyou once again for looking for me, (sorry for your sake and mine, that you still didn't find them) ...... they must have been hiding in somebody's loft!

If I can return the favour for any Cornish Ancestors you may find sometime, just give me a shout.

Thanks for the history lesson about the meaning of Ley, as I didn't know that. I'm taking a chance here that you have a wicked sense of humour ..... surnames are often derived from occupations etc. as you know.

Taking a different direction (because a thought popped into my head when you said that your maiden name was Ley) ...... perhaps your Ancestors were conceived in a field?!? ;)

In which case, mine were conceived in a forest, as my maiden name is Forrest. :D

AnnB
27-03-2005, 03:52 PM
I'll have you know that some of my ancestors were titled - all this talk about being conceived in a field :eek: Mind you, we do seem to be the (extremely) poor relations of the aforementioned 'nobs' so a field may well have come into the equation |blush|
I think my sense of humour leans towards the wicked, with some of the things I have turned up in tracing both mine and my husband's families, I need it ;)
Thanks for the offer of Cornish help, I'll bear it in mind.
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
31-03-2005, 11:13 AM
Hi Ann,

Thanks to the kindness of a friend who has access to the 1841 Census online (sub) searchable by name, Robert and his family weren't hiding in someone's loft after all!

HO107/230/10/7/9 Transcription Clayhidon:

Robert HONNIBALL (25) Not in County
Martha (25) b. Devon
Robert (1) Not in County
Sarah (5 mths) b. Devon
|woohoo|

AnnB
31-03-2005, 04:09 PM
Hello Diane
Have just had a look at Clayhiden 1841 (should have widened the net when I looked at Culmstock, as Clayhiden lies in the Registrar's District of Culmstock -lesson to be learned there!) and found the entry for your Honniballs.
The only thing I can add to what you already know, is that on the page before (HO107/230/10/7/8) there is an address given as Honniball's. There are two households living there, then on page 9 there is 'your' Honniball family, also at Honniball's, then another household. Then the address changes to Higher Hill, then goes back to Honniball's with another couple of households.
I know before the age of 'proper' addresses, cottages were often called after the people who lived there, but why have what appears to be a whole row of cottages been named after your Honniballs? After all they haven't been there very long have they? Were they infamous for something and so everyone knew them thus making the address an easy place to find by referring to it as Honniball's....... :rolleyes: I leave you to ponder that ;)
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
01-04-2005, 12:31 PM
Hello Ann,

Ooooh ...... now you've got me really curious and I'm hoping that you will be kind enough to put me out of my misery!

Three families of HONNIBALL's have been living in Devon for quite a while, so that may explain the naming of the cottages, but without the transcription details ..... I don't know who the other two families are (you found five I believe?)

When my friend sent Robert & Sarah's transcription to me, she also sent me a list of other HONNIBALL's she picked up and asked if they were mine. I asked her if she could send me the transcriptions for them to find out, but I haven't heard back yet.

Below is the list she sent and I've identified some of the individual family members ...... the others are people I don't have in my file, so they could either be extra children or belong to the two other families?

To avoid repeating text, I'll put them in my next message.

(I may not be able to get back here until tomorrow afternoon, as my Grandaughter arrives late afternoon for her usual Friday night sleep-over!)

Diane Grant-Salmon
01-04-2005, 12:32 PM
I've separated the original list (in alpha order) to Families as per my file:

All HONIBALL: AGE: BIRTHPLACE: LIVING IN:

Family One:
Robert 55 Not in County Madcomb Devon, Hemyock
Joan 55 Devon Madcomb Devon, Hemyock
Joseph 25 Not in County Madcomb Devon, Hemyock
Jane 15 Devon Madcomb Devon, Hemyock

Family Two:
Edward 50 Not in County Martters Cottage Devon, Yarcombe
Betty 43 Not in County Martters Cottage Devon, Yarcombe
John 7 Devon Martters Cottage Devon, Yarcombe

Family Three:
John 30 Not in County Madford Hill Devon, Hemyock
Mary 24 Devon Madford Hill Devon, Hemyock
Sarah 1 Devon Madford Hill Devon, Hemyock

Not in my file:
Betty 15 Devon Madcomb Devon, Hemyock
Eliza 10 Devon Madford Hill Devon, Hemyock
Henry 20 Devon Madcomb Devon, Hemyock
Sarah 20 Devon Madcomb Devon, Hemyock

AnnB
01-04-2005, 04:10 PM
Hello Diane
Before you get too carried away....the other 'households' weren't full of Honniballs, but other families of Ag Labs, that's why I thought it odd that the cottages were called Honniball's. Sorry, I should have made myself clearer (fingers going quicker than brain syndrome |blush| ). However, over the weekend I'll take a look at Hemyock and Yarcombe and see what I can turn up.
Hope the sleep-over goes well ;)
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
01-04-2005, 04:55 PM
Hi Ann,

I did a quickie job on the housework :D so that I could log on to catch up with BG Forums and found this message of yours in New Posts.

Not to worry that all the people weren't Honniball's, (as they are increasing in number on a daily basis ...... and I expect to find more in my 1861 Somerset CD which arrived this morning .... thanks Rod and team :) ). Not that I'll be able to have a shufty at it until tomorrow afternoon!

Tomorrow, Eleanor and I should finish the 500 piece, round jig saw we started about four weeks ago. After my daughter has taken a photo to prove that we've done it, and it's put back in its box ..... I've got an extra dusting job to do on the coffee table!

AnnB
01-04-2005, 08:12 PM
Hello Diane
Just in case you manage to get a few moments, thought I'd let you know what I have found so far. :)

HO107/230/15/Folio 5 Page 4
Hemyock
Madford
John Honiball - 30 - Farmer - N
Mary Honiball - 24 - Y
Sarah Honiball - 1 - Y
Eliza Honiball - 10 - Y

HO107/230/15/Folio 5 Page 5
Hemyock
Madcomb
Joseph Honiball - 25 - Farmer - N
Sarah Honiball - 20 - Y
Betsy Honiball - 15 - Y

HO107/230/15/Folio 6 Page 6
Hemyock
Madcomb
Robert Honiball - 55 - Farmer - N
Joan Honiball - 55 - Y
Henry Honiball - 20 - Y
Jane Honiball - 15 - Y
plus 2 Ag Labs

Looks like mix and match families, hope you can work out who belongs to who!
Will carry on with the search and will report back over the weekend.
And put that duster away - you're letting the side down |shakehead
Best wishes
Ann

AnnB
02-04-2005, 04:01 PM
Hello Diane
Update - have just gone through Yarcombe and found the other lot of Honiballs.

HO107/201/23/Folio 6 Page 7
Yarcombe
Matters Cott
Edward Honiball - 50 - Ag Lab - N
Betty Honiball - 43 - N
John Honiball - 7 - Y
There is also a Rachel Spiller (pretty sure that is what the name is) living with them, aged 70, listed as Ind. but with what looks like Lodger crossed out, she was also born out of County.

By the by, have you got the Honeyball (and variations) entries from the 1851 LDS CD (Devon, Warwickshire and Norfolk)? If not, do you want them?

Right, now back to some gardening while the sun is still shining.
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
02-04-2005, 07:14 PM
Hello Ann,

I'm here at last (absolutely shattered as usual on a Saturday after playing all day). Thankyou so much for these transcriptions .... a big hug from me to you.

I got an email today with more info (it comes in dribs and drabs) and thanks to it and you, I've traced two out of the four!

Henry aged 20 is Robert and Joan's son, their other son is Joseph and the Sarah aged 20 is his new wife, just leaving Betty/Betsey aged 15 and Eliza aged 10 to put in my Unrelated Individuals file for the moment.

Another snippet you gave me ....... Betty Honniball the wife is Elizabeth Spiller in my file, so you've just given me the name of her Mother. :)

Re your message: By the by, have you got the Honeyball (and variations) entries from the 1851 LDS CD (Devon, Warwickshire and Norfolk)? If not, do you want them?

If on a rainy day when you can't get any gardening done, if you feel like letting me have the entries, I would be over the moon!

AnnB
03-04-2005, 05:36 PM
Hello Diane
It isn't exactly raining, but....! The following are taken from the 3 County LDS CD so can't say all is correct, but I'm sure it will be of some help. There is quite a lot, so will do it in several posts, in case of problems ;)

Robert HONIBALL Head M 66 M Farmer Of 154 Acres Emp 5 Lab Westbuckland - Somerset
Joan HONIBALL Wife M 67 F --- Stoodley-Devon
Eliza HONIBALL Daur U 23 F --- Hemyock-Devon
John SPARWAY Serv U 24 M Ag Lab --- (NK)-Devon
James COX Serv U 16 M Ag Lab --- (NK)-Devon
John HARRIS Serv - 12 M Ag Lab Hemyock-Devon
Thomas WEBBER Vist - 12 M --- Dunkeswell-Devon
Address: Markham Farm, Wellington
Census Place: Hemyock Wellington, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1921Folio:737Page:10 FHL Film:0221077

Joseph HONIBALL Head U 38 M Farmer Of 91 Acres Emp 2 Lab Westbuckland - Somerset
Jane HONIBALL Sis U 24 F --- Clayhidon-Devon
Sarah SPARKES Serv U 15 F Gen Serv Hemyock-Devon
Address: Alexanderhayes, Wellington
Census Place: Hemyock Wellington, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1921Folio:737 Page:10 FHL Film:0221077

Thomas DUHAM Head M 60 M Farmer of 45 Acres ... Faull-Som
Sarah DUHAM Wife M 64 F Farmers Wife Dunkeswell-Dev
Sarah DUHAM Daur U 27 F Farmers Dau Emp Home Dunkeswell-Dev
Charles DUHAM Son U 23 M Farmers Son Emp Home Dunkeswell-Dev
Mary HONNIBALL GDau U 9 F Scholar Hemyork-Dev
James DOBLE Serv U 18 M Ag Serv Hemyork-Dev
Address: Abbey, Honiton
Census Place: Dunkeswell Honiton, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1863Folio:318 Page:9 FHL Film:0221011

contd....

AnnB
03-04-2005, 05:39 PM
cont....
John HONNIBALL Head M 43 M Farmer 54 Acres Lab 5 West Buckland-SOM
Mary HONNIBALL Wife M 34 F Ag Dunkeswell-DEV
Sarah HONNIBALL Daur U 11 F Ag Clayhidon-DEV
Elizabeth HONNIBALL Daur U 6 F --- Clayhidon-DEV
Jane HONNIBALL Daur - 3 F --- Clayhidon-DEV
Eliza HONNIBALL Daur - 8m F --- Clayhidon-DEV
Elizabeth BAILEY Serv U 18 F Ag Serv Churchstanton-DEV
Thomas MARKS Serv U 18 M Ag Lab Hemyock-DEV
Address: Burcombe, Wellington
Census Place: Clayhidon Wellington, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1921Folio:768 Page:5 FHL Film: 0221077

Robert WILLIE Head M 74 M Farmer Of 67 Acres (2 Lab)Otterford -SOM
Mary WILLIE Wife M 68 F --- Yarcombe-DEV
John LONG BroL U 66 M Farm Lab Yarcombe-DEV
Peter LONG Neph U 22 M Farm Lab Yarcombe-DEV
Thomas MANLEY Serv U 20 M Farm Serv Upottery-DEV
John HONEYBALL Serv U 17 M Farm Serv Yarcombe-DEV
Emily KNIGHT Serv U 18 F House Serv Whitestaunton-SOM
Address: Higher Stout, Chard
Census Place: Yarcombe Chard, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1927Folio:367 Page:4 FHL Film:0221084

Mary FROST Head W 53 F Sempstress Tiverton-Dev
John FROST BroL W 63 M Cordwainer Tiverton-Dev
John FROST Son U 24 M Cordwainer Tiverton-Dev
Ann FROST Daur U 21 F Dressmaker Tiverton-Dev
Emma HONEYBALL Niec - 5 F --- Bridgwater-Som
Address: Silver St, Tiverton
Census Place: Tiverton Tiverton, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1889Folio:233 Page:23 FHL Film:0221039

contd....

AnnB
03-04-2005, 05:40 PM
contd....
John Peter BENSON Head M 48 M Vicar Of Witheridge Northam-Dev
Mary Melhnish BENSON Wife M 37 F --- Wellingoon-Som
Mary Harriet BENSON Daur U 14 F Schl Witheridge-Dev
Elizabeth BENSON Daur - 12 F --- Witheridge-Dev
Catherine BENSON Daur U 11 F Schl Witheridge-Dev
Louisa BENSON Daur U 7 F Schl Witheridge-Dev
William John BENSON Son U 6 M Schl Witheridge-Dev
Thomas George BENSONSon - 3 M Schl Witheridge-Dev
Grace Susanna BENSON Daur - 8 F --- Witheridge-Dev
Ann SCOTT Serv U 36 F Serv Exford-Som
Elizabeth DAVEY Serv U 18 F Serv Exford-Som
Elizabeth HILL Serv U 19 F Serv Rose Ash-Dev
Elizabeth HONEYBALL Serv U 48 F Serv Exford-Som
Mary Ann WOOD Serv U 21 F Serv Tiverton-Dev
Address: Cottage, South Moulton
Census Place: Witheridge South Moulton, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1891Folio:185 Page:2 FHL Film:0221041

Edward HONEYBALL Head M 61 M Ag Lab West Buckland-SOM
Elizabeth HONEYBALL Wife M 53 F --- Otterford-SOM
Address: Stout Cott, Chard
Census Place: Yarcombe Chard, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1927Folio:367 Page:5 FHL Film:0221084

Samuel HONEYBALL Head M 60 M Chelsea Pensioner Halberton-Dev
Elizabeth HONEYBALL Wife M 56 F --- Exeter-Dev
Elizabeth HONEYBALL Daur U 22 F --- Exeter-Dev
Henry HONEYBALL Bro U 50 M Ag Lab Halberton-Dev
Eliza GILLARD Lodg U 19 F --- Crediton-Dev
Address: Westexe, -
Census Place: Tiverton Tiverton, Devonshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/1889Folio:275 Page:12 FHL Film:0221039

There, that should keep you away from the dusting for a while :)
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
04-04-2005, 12:50 PM
Hello Ann,

Is it my Birthday??? No, but it seems like it is! Thankyou so much for all these transcriptions, I want you to know how REALLY grateful I am to you, it must have taken you ages to find everything you have for me.

This is the 'special something' that BG Forums has which I never found on Genforum, just as many helpful people ...... but more friendly somehow, less impersonal.

You don't have to worry about the dusting, as my daughter forgot to bring her camera, so the jig saw is still on the coffee table. :D

I love gardening too and the weather was awful last week, but today looks promising ...... hope it's the same for you.

Many thanks again Ann.

AnnB
04-04-2005, 03:25 PM
My pleasure Diane, I just enjoy rootling things out. That's probably why I quite enjoy weeding..... ;) Have just had an hour and a half of trying to tidy up one particular border and my back has told me to come and sit at the computer instead!
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
08-04-2005, 07:23 PM
Hi Ann,

I've just managed to sort out all those lovely Censuses you gave me and:

Henry aged 20 is Robert and Joan's son, their other son is Joseph and the Sarah aged 20 is his new wife, just leaving Betty/Betsey aged 15 and Eliza aged 10 to put in my Unrelated Individuals file for the moment.

Eliza aged 10 has just left the cubby hole, where she was living all on her own, she turns out to be the sister of John (Head of Household), as I found out from Father Robert's 1851 Census you gave me! |woohoo|

That just left me with Betsey aged 15, (b. 1826) but unfortunately you went and gave me another Betsey b. 1816! :D

AnnB
08-04-2005, 08:08 PM
Hello Diane

I'm really pleased that you've managed to tie in all the census info - very satisfying all round :) I've had a quick look back through our (lengthy!) thread and can't find the Betsy born in 1816 - or am I being particularly blinkered :confused: Will keep my eyes open for any more Honniballs, they almost seem like part of 'my' family now ;)
Best wishes
Ann

Diane Grant-Salmon
09-04-2005, 10:02 AM
Hi Ann,

I've just sneaked on here while my Grandaughter is having brekkers with my husband. Oh dear, what can I say, other than to beg your forgiveness |bowdown|

When I entered all your census info into FTM, I also entered up a few of my own which I hadn't had the time to do before ..... and this Betsey is one of mine, born in Somerset!

Yet another Senior Moment ........ |blush|

AnnB
09-04-2005, 03:38 PM
Thank goodness, I really thought I was beginning to crack up :eek: (I'm glad I'm not the only one who has these 'funny turns', I keep telling my husband it's my age...... ;) )
Best wishes
Ann

brummie
07-08-2006, 04:57 AM
Hello Diane,
I saw your Honiball connection and wondered if you can help with a query that I have.
In I G I I have found the marriage of Jone Honiball to John Jarvis 24th March,1810.
The entry is confusing as at the side of the marriage entry it shows Wells, Gloucester.
I would like to find where this marriage took place but know that there is no Wells in Gloucestershire.
May I ask if you have any details of the Jone shown and if you have any Honiball ancestors in Gloucestershire and if so whmessage=Hello Diane,
I saw your Honiball connection and wondered if you can help with a query that I have.
In I G I I have found the marriage of Jone Honiball to John Jarvis 24th March,1810.
The entry is confusing as at the side of the marriage entry it shows Wells, Gloucester.
I would like to find where this marriage took place but know that there is no Wells in Gloucestershire.
May I ask if you have any details of the Jone shown and if you have any Honiball ancestors in Gloucestershire and if so where in the county did they come from.

Thank you.

Colin Jarvis.

Diane Grant-Salmon
07-08-2006, 10:32 AM
Hi Colin,

I've just had a quick look at the IGI, but I can't find the entry you gave I'm afraid, as there's no mention of John JARVIS.

All I could find were these two:

1. Jone Honiball - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 24 MAR 1810 Of Durslev, , Gloucester, England
2. Jone Haniball - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 24 MAR 1810 Of Campbell, , Gloucester, England

However, they are both LDS submissions, not true extractions from Parish Registers, so personally, I would disregard these two entries anyway.

I will have a look in my file for the names you give, also I'll give details of my HONNIBALL's in Gloucestershire ..... back soon. :)

Diane Grant-Salmon
07-08-2006, 11:11 AM
Hi Colin,

I don't have either of your names in my file, sorry. :(

My HONNIBALL's were originally from Somerset, but my Robert & Sarah left in approximately 1854 and moved to Wiltshire. Between 1858 and 1861, they moved to Marshfield in Gloucestershire.

In 1871 they were living in Nags Head Hill, St. George, 1881 & 1891 they were at Soundwell Lane, Mangotsfield, and in 1901, Sarah was living at Chiphouse Road, Mangotsfield. Robert died in 1874 at Oldland.

Some of the children married and stayed in the Mangotsfield area, but others left the County before/after their marriages.

SS Short
07-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Colin,
I stem from the 'Somerset' Honiballs.
I have a Jane Honiball (born 5 Apr 1787 daughter of John Honiball & Arabella Buffett of Stogursey Somerset) married to John Jarvis (or Jervas) 24 Mar 1810 Dursley Gloucester.
Issue :
Elizabeth (married a Francis)
Henry
Edward
Kitty
Jane
Arabella (married a Cresswell)

Regards

Straffen Short
South Africa

honi_swin
28-06-2007, 11:56 PM
my name is rebecca honiball.
i am doing some more research on my family tree. i'm willing to share any info i already have.
i have a family tree which has descendants of john honiball who died in 1743.
please feel free to contact me.

mike@mjstephens
10-02-2008, 04:49 PM
Just to let interested parties know that a John Honniballs once lived at my address and the property was once named Honniballs in Clayhidon Devon:)