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michaelpipe
14-08-2009, 2:37 PM
I wanted a photo of a plaque and gravestone belonging to Sir Richard Pipe from 1587. So after much searching I thought that I would send an email to the vicar of the church in question, in Derbyshire, thinking that it might be a simple operation. The vicar was helpful, telling me that he wasn’t familiar with the history attached to this, as it hadn’t been seen for years. So he passed my inquiry on to the churchwarden, and to the local heritage society.

From them I gained the information that, as far as anyone knew, the grave slab was inside the church, underneath the altar, and a plaque was hidden behind a screen at the back of the altar. The stone and the plaque had been obscured permanently possibly over 300 years ago, and have never been seen since (although there was a report in a newspaper in the 1930’s that it existed).

So I assumed that neither I, nor any one else, would ever see this stone or the plaque / engraving, which would be an integral part of that part of the Pipe family.

It is amazing how a few enquiries can activate the interest of other people – and interest had been created. The local “archaeologists”, headed by the verger, plan to swing into action shortly, picks and shovels in hand, move the altar and all associated screens, carpets etc, and rediscover their “lost” treasures.

Hopefully a photo or two will be forthcoming, for which I will owe the participants a debt of gratitude.

Had I not enquired, poor old Sir Richard and Lady Jane his wife (and maybe another one) would have been un-noticed perhaps for another 300 years.

Sometimes people surprise you in the strangest ways!

busyglen
14-08-2009, 3:01 PM
That is great news Michael! I am sure it is as exciting to the church members as it is to you, and another piece of history to add to their books. :)

Glenys

Jan1954
14-08-2009, 3:06 PM
That is so exciting, Michael! |jumphappy

As I am connected to your Pipes via Susan (1739 - 1776) I shall await developments with interest. ;)

v.wells
14-08-2009, 5:48 PM
NOW that is what I call TERRIFIC NEWS Michael|jumphappy !!

Now the hard part is waiting for the pick and shovels to get into action and unearth this placque. WOW |hug|

MythicalMarian
14-08-2009, 6:06 PM
Well, Michael - you've done your bit for history - worth a knighthood in my book - if it were in my power to give it.

Brilliant news. |jumphappy

Do keep us posted if there are photos.

v.wells
14-08-2009, 6:58 PM
http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/JinsTa23/Knight.jpg

gasser
14-08-2009, 7:57 PM
That is really great news .....|jumphappy .....to have an ancestor buried within a church - fantastic!

You may be interested in this little snippet I found - Extract from “Notes on the churches of Derbyshire” (1875) Author: Cox, J. Charles 1843-1919 Internet source: archive [dot] org

“.......to Sir Richard Pipe in the chancel, which bears the following inscription:- Hic jacet Ricardus Pipe miles, civis quondam et major, London, et hujus rectoriae solus patronus, qui ultimum diem clausit 19 die Mensis Sept. A.D. 11587; et aetatis suae 72.”

Although written in Latin I think we get the idea of what it says.

michaelpipe
15-08-2009, 12:15 AM
That is really great news .....|jumphappy .....to have an ancestor buried within a church - fantastic!

You may be interested in this little snippet I found - Extract from “Notes on the churches of Derbyshire” (1875) Author: Cox, J. Charles 1843-1919 Internet source: archive [dot] org

“.......to Sir Richard Pipe in the chancel, which bears the following inscription:- Hic jacet Ricardus Pipe miles, civis quondam et major, London, et hujus rectoriae solus patronus, qui ultimum diem clausit 19 die Mensis Sept. A.D. 11587; et aetatis suae 72.”

Although written in Latin I think we get the idea of what it says.

Thanks, Gasser, already found that reference already - but that is not visible either.

spison
16-08-2009, 12:31 AM
Or at least I hope so. What a great story. You must keep us posted!

Jane:)