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18-03-2005, 7:26 PM
I have a death certificate for a daughter of my great-great grandparents dated January 1871 and the address given is 14 Duncan Square, South Hackney. I have the London 1871 census on CDs and the reference for Duncan Square is RG10/329 - however there is no number 14 Duncan Square. I have searched through Duncan St and Duncan Terrace but have not found them. The family I'm looking for are Terence and Mary Mangan, by 1873 they were at 25 Duncan St, so they didn't move far. The surname is often mis-transcribed so I haven't found them in any indexes. Any ideas where to look next?
19-03-2005, 3:23 AM
Hi Annie B,
Ancestry allows wildcard searches for surnames so even with transcription problems they may still be findable.
If you can provide more details such as ages, place of birth etc I can have a go for you.
There aren't a whole lot of Terences listed in the 1871 census for Hackney. The following comes closest to yours but this family's name is MORGAN and they are living at 5 Suffolk Road in St. Leonard. Supposing the name is somehow that much mangled on the cenus [i.e., from MANGAN to MORGAN], could your family have moved away from Duncan Square in 1871 and then back by 1873? Doesn't seem likely...
Name / Age in 1871 / Birthplace / Relationship / Civil Parish / Occupation
Terrance Morgan 31 Limerick, Ireland Head St Leonard Shoreditch London
Mary Morgan 25 Limerick, Ireland Wife St Leonard Shoreditch London
John Morgan 2 Hackney, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch
Terrance Morgan 8 months Hackney, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch
Source information: RG10/473
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston East
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 243
19-03-2005, 5:44 PM
Thank you Trish, you've found them! Terence Mangan was from Limerick and the two older sons were John and Terence. They obviously did move round a lot.
Chris in 1066Land
19-03-2005, 5:59 PM
Hi Annie b & Trish
TRISH - Well done in finding that family, I had done a quick search for them earlier on, but did not deviate from Terrence like you did although I tried several variations of Mangan/Mangen/Mengan etc.
ANNIE - on looking at the enumerators return for Terrance Morgan, it is in fact MANGAN as when you blow up the image, the 'o' has a flat side to the right making it an 'a' and the 'r' is definitely an 'n' as the right side returns all the way down to the base before going up to form the g.
As is usual with ancestry, it has just been wrongly transcribed.
...on looking at the enumerators return for Terrance Morgan, it is in fact MANGAN as when you blow up the image...Chris,
Good work with deciphering MANGAN on the original image. I squinted at it, blew it up a little and still thought it looked like MORGAN. I wondered if maybe the enumerator had had difficulty understanding an Irish accent and so heard "MORGAN" instead of MANGAN.
I guess we should duly notify ancestry.co.uk when we come across these errors because they do seem to be common enough...
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