nrth eastern certified reformatry

[lyndy]

could anyone tell me if i can find out if my grandfather was in the above institution in northumberland in 1881 his name was william davies from manchester or ashton underlyne and he would of been about 14 years of age
thankyou lyndy

[Lottie]

Lyndy

Yes he is there , will send an image of the entry to you off - forum!

Name: William Davies
Age in 1881: 15

Age months: 0

Estimated birth year: abt 1866

Relationship to head-of-household: Juvenile Offender

Gender: Male



Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Address: "Nrth Eastn Certified Reformatry"

Civil parish: Stannington

County/Island: Northumberland


Occupation: Scholar

Source information: RG11/5097

Registration district: Castle Ward


Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Address: "Nrth Eastn Certified Reformatry"

Civil parish: Stannington

County/Island: Northumberland


Occupation: Scholar

Source information: RG11/5097

Registration district: Castle Ward

Sub-registration district: Ponteland

ED, institution, or vessel: North Eastern Certified Reformatory

Folio: 93
Page: 9



Lottie

Downunder

[uksearch]

could anyone tell me if i can find out if my grandfather was in the above institution in northumberland in 1881 his name was william davies from manchester or ashton underlyne and he would of been about 14 years of age
thankyou lyndy


Lyndy,

Do you have any details of his parents? I have found a William Davies who was born in Newton (Heath) Manchester c1867.

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[lyndy]

hi the only details i have about my grandfather is as follows William Davies born 1866-67 Manchester -Ashton Underlyne fathers name Joseph , William went on to mary Kate Morris in 1893 i need help finding him please

[uksearch]

Hi Lyndy,

Just a couple of things.How do you know that you William's father was Joesph and that he (William ) was born in Ashton under Lyne? The 1901 Census states he was born in Manchester,A u L is some miles from the city.

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[lyndy]

hi
i know williams father was joseph because i have got williams marriage certificate and on it is his fathers name as for him being born in ashton underlyne im not too sure about

[Jo Simpsons]

I was reading something about this place the other day, think it was a later date but may be of some use. I'll try and find it.

Jo:)

[Jo Simpsons]

This is the link,
http://www.institutions.org.uk/reformatories/england/NBL/northumberland_reformatories.htm

Its from
http://www.institutions.org.uk/reformatories/index.html

May be you email and ask for earlier information if they have it?
Jo :)

[uksearch]

I could not find your William in the 1871 Census for Ashton under Lyne (unless he was aged 3 and living with gm and an uncle).Perhaps it would help to get some more details of his parents.You may be able to do this as the reform school would probably have the details in their Addmissions Register.It could also be very interesting to look at the Discharges Register.

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[lyndy]

im still trying to find out if the william davies in the north eastern certified reformotary north umberland was infact my grandad i seem to be geting nowhere at all i dont know how to find out what this williams father was called any more help from anyone please

[lyndy]

still trying to find info about mabel and robert chant living in maltby in 1920 onwards anyone outthere know anything

[uksearch]

This maybe your family.The film was difficult to make out in parts.

RG 10 4052 folio 15
8 Berry Ct or St,St George's,Manchester.
Joseph DAVIS..H..M..44..Tailor..R(P)russia..Poland (crossed out)
Rebecca..W..M..36(?)..Tailoress..Russia
Sarah ROSENBERG(?)..Step D..15..Apprentice Machinist(?)..Manchester
Isaac..13..Step S..Scholar(?)..Manchester
Rosalie..11..Step D..Scholar(?)..Manchester
???????..8..Step S..Scholar(?)..Manchester
William DAVIS..5..S..Scholar(?)..Manchester
Abraham ?..2..S..Manchester
Enoch..S..3mths..Manchester

I realise that somethings do not match but many appear to do so.Red Bank is in the St George's district.

You will not find the Admissions or Discharges Records on the net.These records should have limited access.I am not too sure of their exact location,but they are probably kept in the nearest town or city to the institution.If someone can get hold of the records it would probably be best to look for his discharge records.This is likely to be 3 months or so before his 16th birthday.The inmates were often realesed on licence and there should be records of "after" visits by the authorities.It will also give the date of Admmission.These records usually give details of the parents and details of the "crime" committed.


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[lyndy]

thankyou so much for helping me if you come up with any other davies`s with joseph as the father and william as the son in manchester around about 1867 onwards i would love to read about them,keep up your good work

[lyndy]

could you please look up a william davies born in manchester about 1867 only know his father was called joseph thankyou