THOMAS TODD, LUCY SIMPSON, Dalston, Cumberland

[Isambard]

I've just received the GRO marriage certificate for Thomas Todd and Lucy Simpson, dated 2 July 1861; at the Carlisle Registrar Office:

Thomas Todd, 20, Bachelor, Farm Servant, of "Stockdalexxxx"(?) Dalston, Father - Thomas Todd, General Labourer
Lucy Simpson, 18, Spinster, Domestic Servant, of Durdar St. Cuthbert, Father - Edward Simpson, General Labourer
In the presence of Robert Todd and Margaret Simpson.

Margaret above is probably Lucy's sister. Robert's relationship is unknown.

From another researcher I've received the following list of Todds in Dalston in the 1861 Census Index, although the relationships are not available (free), although it's likely that the senior Thomas and Frances are my Thomas' parents:

THOMAS TODD 53 Carlisle, Dalston
FRANCES TODD 41 Carlisle, Dalston
MARY TODD 9 Carlisle, Dalston
THOMAS TODD 20 Carlisle, Dalston
MARY TODD 66 Carlisle, Dalston
ELEANOR TODD 20 Carlisle, Dalston
JAMES TODD 0 Carlisle, Dalston
JANE TODD 24 Carlisle, Dalston
ELIZABETH TODD 19 Carlisle, Dalston

Any help in decoding the relationships and in locating these Todds in 1841 and 1851 will be appreciated. :)

[ChristineR]

THOMAS TODD 20 Carlisle, Dalston

This Thomas is a servant (ploughman) on a farm headed by Thomas Young, 120 acres, employing two labourers. Aged 20, unmarried, born Dalston.

RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 102; Page: 2
Cumdivock, Cumberland
at Greensykes?

[ChristineR]

THOMAS TODD 53 Carlisle, Dalston
FRANCES TODD 41 Carlisle, Dalston
MARY TODD 9 Carlisle, Dalston
all in one household.
RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 85; Page: 1
Ive Gill, Carlisle, Dalston
?Sunny Vale
Thomas Todd, head, 53, ag lab, b Dalston
Frances do, wife, 41, born Castle Sowerby, Cumb
Mary do, dau, 9, scholar, b Crosby on Eden, Cumb

edited later - these seem to be your Thomas' family :)

[ChristineR]

MARY TODD 66 Carlisle, Dalston
ELEANOR TODD 20 Carlisle, Dalston
JAMES TODD 0 Carlisle, Dalston

RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 29; Page: 32
Cummersdale, Carlisle, Dalston
Newby
Mary Todd, head, widow, 66, ag lab, born Cumbersdale?
Eleanor do, dau, unm, 20, family servant, born do
James do, G son, 10 mo, born do

[ChristineR]

JANE TODD 24 Carlisle, Dalston

Jane is a unmarried house servant born Stanwix, Cumberland
BOWMAN household
Hawkesdale, Carlisle, Dalston
Green Lane
RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 91; Page: 1


ELIZABETH TODD 19 Carlisle, Dalston

Elizabeth is a servant (dairy maid), unm, born Embleton, Northumberland
NICHOLSON family
Buckabank, Carlisle, Dalston
RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 66; Page: 15

[ChristineR]

You may be interested in this Robert TODD, born Dalston. Possibly your fellows brother, a Journeyman joiner.

Botcherby Village, Carlisle, St Cuthbert
Henry Todd, head, 30, Master Joiner employing 5 men, born Sowerby
Mary Todd, wife, 23, Joiners Wife, born Moorhouse
George Waugh, apprentice, unm, 20, joiner, born Longcroft
William Johnstone, do, 13, do, born Greystoke
John Watson , journeyman, unm, 21, do, born Mirkwith?
Robert Todd, do, unm, 21, do, born Dalston
Jane Carritthers, serv, unm, 19 , house maid born Carlisle
RG9; Piece: 3917; Folio: 55; Page: 17

I'll have a fossick around in 1851. :)

[ChristineR]

You may already have this :)
1861
Blackwell High, Carlisle, St Cuthbert
Durdar
Edward Simpson, head, 46, Farmer & owner of 4 acres Clog? Coker Maker & Ag Labr
Ann do, wife 46 wife
Edward do, son 20, ag lab
Lucey do, dau 17, ag lab
Joseph do, son 13, scholar
George do, son 9, do
Jane Ann do, dau, 7, do
Thomas do, son, 5, do
all born St Cuthbert
RG9; Piece: 3917; Folio: 22; Page: 10

[ChristineR]

Yes, Robert is his brother. :)

1851
High Crosby, Carlisle, Wetheral
Thomas Todd, head, 43, farm labourer, born Scotland
Frances do, wife, 32, labourer's wife, born Dalston
Ann do, dau, 13, scholar, b Dalston
Robert do, son, 11, scholar, b Dalston
Thomas do, son, 10 , scholar, b Dalston
HO107; Piece: 2429; Folio: 16; Page: 11

Perhaps I better check 1861 again - in case it says Scotland as well! I'll see what 1841 says first.
edited later - the 1861 does say he was born Dalston, but the 1841 also says Scotland.

[ChristineR]

1841
HO107; Piece 164; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Dalston; County: Cumberland; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 7; Page: 8

Thomas Todd , 30 ag lab,-., S (Scotland)
Frances do, 25, y
Ann do, 3, y
Robert do, 1, y
Thomas do, 3 Mo , y

That is wonderful, Thomas has already been born.
Looks like dad was born Scotland for sure now.
No Henry in this lot either, must be a cousin.
:)

[ChristineR]

And after all that, I look at the 1871 census, and see a different birthplace given for your Thomas junior - Bickerby. :D Married to Lucy and a 9 year old son born Durdar, they must be your wedding couple.
I don't see a Thomas born Dalston.

His parents are with Robert, now married, in Lancashire in 1871.
1871
RG10; Piece: 3874; Folio: 60; Page: 10
Lancashire, Ormskirk, North Meols,
32 Sussex Road
Robert Todd , head, 32, joiner and builder, born Dalston, Cumberland
Hannah Todd, wife, 35 b Lancashire, Manchester
Frances Mary do, dau, 6, scholar, b Lancashire North Meols
Thomas Todd, father, 63, ag labourer, born Scotland
Fanny do, mother, 51 (A* index says 61), Cumberland Castle on Ely
Fanny Broman (could be Bowman) child grand, 3, b Cumberland, Upperby
boarding with them Charles Bains, 42, and Mary Ann Bains, 32, he a retired silk maker, both born Lancashire, Chipping, both marked as unmarried
:)

[Isambard]

Super response Christine, much to chew on now! Although I rushed to the dictionary over "fossick" :):)

[ChristineR]

Super response Christine, much to chew on now! Although I rushed to the dictionary over "fossick" :):)

Did you find a definition? :D maybe an aussie slang from fossicking for gold.

Ah yes, just did a google - it is an Australian term relating to gold.
In my usage it is the rummage around definition.
But maybe it will prove to be gold to you, hopefully :)

[Isambard]

And after all that, I look at the 1871 census, and see a different birthplace given for your Thomas junior - Bickerby. :D Married to Lucy and a 9 year old son born Durdar, they must be your wedding couple.
I don't see a Thomas born Dalston.

His parents are with Robert, now married, in Lancashire in 1871.
1871
RG10; Piece: 3874; Folio: 60; Page: 10
Lancashire, Ormskirk, North Meols,
32 Sussex Road
Robert Todd , head, 32, joiner and builder, born Dalston, Cumberland
Hannah Todd, wife, 35 b Lancashire, Manchester
Frances Mary do, dau, 6, scholar, b Lancashire North Meols
Thomas Todd, father, 63, ag labourer, born Scotland
Fanny do, mother, 51 (A* index says 61), Cumberland Castle on Ely
Fanny Broman (could be Bowman) child grand, 3, b Cumberland, Upperby
boarding with them Charles Bains, 42, and Mary Ann Bains, 32, he a retired silk maker, both born Lancashire, Chipping, both marked as unmarried
:)

"Bickerby" is presumably Botcherby Village and "Castle on Ely" is Castle on Eden. The 1881 census shows Thomas Todd, Head, widower, age 74, Scotland, Agricultural Labourer, living alone in St Cuthbert W/O - Blackwell High, Cumberland. So it appears that Fanny (Frances) has died and Thomas has returned home. He's not with Robert and Hannah in Lancashire.

A quick bit of fossicking (:)) on the IGI yields a Thomas Todd born in Dumfries, 12 March 1808 and christened 14 March 1808, father James. Close to Carlisle, but I'm sure it can't be that easy a solution. :)

[ChristineR]

"Castle on Ely" is Castle on Eden

oops, I think that is my mistake, from memory it was Castle on Eden.
Oh yes, Botcherby / Bickerby, I didn't spend much time trying to work out exactly what it said and went with A*s version, at a quick glance looked like it. I'll have another look later, perhaps spelled Bocherby.

later :)
The first actually looks like CastleSon--ly - the other census said Castle Sowerby for Frances' birthplace (called Fanny in this one)
"Bickerby" is presumably Botcherby Village
I must have been tired, so sorry |oopsredfa but A*s index says Rickerby, and so does the image.

Here is the complete entry, transcribed to the best of my ability at full zoom level.

1871
RG10; Piece: 5221; Folio: 132; Page: 23
Cumberland
Civil Parish - Caldewgate
Carlisle, St Mary
No 5 Northumberland st
Thomas Todd, head, mar, 29, Omnibus Driver, Cumberland Rickerby
Lucy do, wife, mar, 28, Wife employed Domestic, do Blacku?ll (later census say Blackwell)
William do, son, -, 9, scholar, do Durdar
Edward do, son, -, 4, scholar, Carlisle King Street

1881 says that they are all born in Carlisle
Thomas 39, cab driver
Lucy 37
William Hatter 19 (Apprentice)
Edward 14, confectioner
Caldewgate
25 Trafalgar st,
(Carlisle, St Mary)
with a 19 year old cab driver lodger, William Cowx.

[Isambard]

oops, ------later :)-----

Here is the complete entry, transcribed to the best of my ability at full zoom level.

1871
RG10; Piece: 5221; Folio: 132; Page: 23
Cumberland
Civil Parish - Caldewgate
Carlisle, St Mary
No 5 Northumberland st
Thomas Todd, head, mar, 29, Omnibus Driver, Cumberland Rickerby
Lucy do, wife, mar, 28, Wife employed Domestic, do Blacku?ll (later census say Blackwell)
William do, son, -, 9, scholar, do Durdar
Edward do, son, -, 4, scholar, Carlisle King Street

1881 says that they are all born in Carlisle
Thomas 39, cab driver
Lucy 37
William Hatter 19 (Apprentice)
Edward 14, confectioner
Caldewgate
25 Trafalgar st,
(Carlisle, St Mary)
with a 19 year old cab driver lodger, William Cowx.

Rickerby it is, thank you Christine, Google and Wikapedia. :)
William Todd went on to become a felt hat finisher, in London by 1901, together with his family. Edward became a hotel porter in Whitehaven, and later in Glasgow and Canada, a tramcar driver.

[Isambard]

And after all that, I look at the 1871 census, and see a different birthplace given for your Thomas junior - Bickerby. :D Married to Lucy and a 9 year old son born Durdar, they must be your wedding couple.
I don't see a Thomas born Dalston.

His parents are with Robert, now married, in Lancashire in 1871.
1871
RG10; Piece: 3874; Folio: 60; Page: 10
Lancashire, Ormskirk, North Meols,
32 Sussex Road
Robert Todd , head, 32, joiner and builder, born Dalston, Cumberland
Hannah Todd, wife, 35 b Lancashire, Manchester
Frances Mary do, dau, 6, scholar, b Lancashire North Meols
Thomas Todd, father, 63, ag labourer, born Scotland
Fanny do, mother, 51 (A* index says 61), Cumberland Castle on Ely
Fanny Broman (could be Bowman) child grand, 3, b Cumberland, Upperby
boarding with them Charles Bains, 42, and Mary Ann Bains, 32, he a retired silk maker, both born Lancashire, Chipping, both marked as unmarried
:)

I'm still trying to find where/when Thomas Todd, the father, was born in Scotland, perhaps in Dumfries bordering Cumberland? His age was reported as 30 in 1841, 43 in 1851, 53 in 1861, 63 in 1871 and 74 in 1881, a range of birth years from 1807 to 1811, with 1808 being the most common.

Scotland's People lists a Thomas Todd, born 17 August 1806, Langholm, Dumfries, father Robert Todd and mother Lillis Blythe, but nothing on marriage of Robert and Lillis or on Lillis' birth. (There is a young Robert above, son of Thomas, which is teasing but may be coincidental).

LDS lists a Thomas Todd, born 12 March 1808, Dumfries, father James Todd. (no James in Thomas' family).

Anyone with comments or ideas of where to go from here? :)

[Heather]

I'm still trying to find where/when Thomas Todd, the father, was born in Scotland, perhaps in Dumfries bordering Cumberland? His age was reported as 30 in 1841, 43 in 1851, 53 in 1861, 63 in 1871 and 74 in 1881, a range of birth years from 1807 to 1811, with 1808 being the most common.

Scotland's People lists a Thomas Todd, born 17 August 1806, Langholm, Dumfries, father Robert Todd and mother Lillis Blythe, but nothing on marriage of Robert and Lillis or on Lillis' birth. (There is a young Robert above, son of Thomas, which is teasing but may be coincidental).

LDS lists a Thomas Todd, born 12 March 1808, Dumfries, father James Todd. (no James in Thomas' family).

Anyone with comments or ideas of where to go from here? :)

Census ages are usually rounded up to the nearest 5 years, so the above is normal. I have one Bowness who left Whitehaven and went up just north of Dumfries (in Kirkton) and I found them all on the Scottish Records at the Mormon church!! :)

There must be a Mormon Family History Centre near you in Pointe Claire...my aunt lived there for eons!! Have a look in the phone book and give that a try. Carlisle was just a short distance from the Scottish border and it was not unusual for Cumbrians to move up there. In fact, one of them in my tree was from Langholm. I also ordered in a microfilm for the area and it was pretty good. But I knew exactly what village they were from.

Highlight of my travels was to go there and stay in that house!! My ancestor built it in 1795. Just amazing.....and the church and cemetery was across the road.

Good luck.....Heather in Brampton, Ontario :D

[Isambard]

Census ages are usually rounded up to the nearest 5 years, so the above is normal. I have one Bowness who left Whitehaven and went up just north of Dumfries (in Kirkton) and I found them all on the Scottish Records at the Mormon church!! :)

There must be a Mormon Family History Centre near you in Pointe Claire...my aunt lived there for eons!! Have a look in the phone book and give that a try. Carlisle was just a short distance from the Scottish border and it was not unusual for Cumbrians to move up there. In fact, one of them in my tree was from Langholm. I also ordered in a microfilm for the area and it was pretty good. But I knew exactly what village they were from.

Highlight of my travels was to go there and stay in that house!! My ancestor built it in 1795. Just amazing.....and the church and cemetery was across the road.

Good luck.....Heather in Brampton, Ontario :D

Thanks for the tip Heather. There is a LDS Family History Centre just 20 minutes from here, in Lachine, which we visited last year, but focus was on other folks then. Must give it a try.

The image on Scotland's People shows a Thomas Todd, born 16 July 1806, lawful son to Robert Todd, Papermaker, Langholm, and Lillis Blythe, baptized 17 August 1806. Marriage of Robert and Lillis and who Lillis was is still unsolved, but then this Thomas may not be the one I want.

Isambard

[Isambard]

Yes, Robert is his brother. :)

1851
High Crosby, Carlisle, Wetheral
Thomas Todd, head, 43, farm labourer, born Scotland
Frances do, wife, 32, labourer's wife, born Dalston
Ann do, dau, 13, scholar, b Dalston
Robert do, son, 11, scholar, b Dalston
Thomas do, son, 10 , scholar, b Dalston
HO107; Piece: 2429; Folio: 16; Page: 11

Perhaps I better check 1861 again - in case it says Scotland as well! I'll see what 1841 says first.
edited later - the 1861 does say he was born Dalston, but the 1841 also says Scotland.

I'm still working to find what was Frances' family name and when/where she and Thomas 1808 were married. Frances was born Castle Sowerby. Before I spend more money at the GRO, would a death certificate for the following entry show a maiden name and husband?:

"Deaths Jun 1876 Todd Frances aged 60 Penrith 10b 256"

[Isambard]

RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 29; Page: 32
Cummersdale, Carlisle, Dalston
Newby
Mary Todd, head, widow, 66, ag lab, born Cumbersdale?
Eleanor do, dau, unm, 20, family servant, born do
James do, G son, 10 mo, born do

Eleanor was one of at least 6 children, father James Todd b. abt 1788 and mother Mary b. abt 1798. She married John Harrison Mar 1864 Carlisle 10b 571. James, Mary's son (?), is listed as a boarder living with the Harrison's in 1871.

[Isambard]

Jane is a unmarried house servant born Stanwix, Cumberland
BOWMAN household
Hawkesdale, Carlisle, Dalston
Green Lane
RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 91; Page: 1



Elizabeth is a servant (dairy maid), unm, born Embleton, Northumberland
NICHOLSON family
Buckabank, Carlisle, Dalston
RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 66; Page: 15

Jane Todd was christened 29 Jan 1837 Stanwix, father William Todd, mother Isabella Robinson

Elizabeth Todd was christened 27 Sept 1842 Houghton, father William Todd, mother Isabella Robinson. She married William Ivison, a Nicholson farm ploughman, 20 Nov. 1866

[Isambard]

And after all that, I look at the 1871 census, and see a different birthplace given for your Thomas junior - Bickerby. :D Married to Lucy and a 9 year old son born Durdar, they must be your wedding couple.
I don't see a Thomas born Dalston.

His parents are with Robert, now married, in Lancashire in 1871.
1871
RG10; Piece: 3874; Folio: 60; Page: 10
Lancashire, Ormskirk, North Meols,
32 Sussex Road
Robert Todd , head, 32, joiner and builder, born Dalston, Cumberland
Hannah Todd, wife, 35 b Lancashire, Manchester
Frances Mary do, dau, 6, scholar, b Lancashire North Meols
Thomas Todd, father, 63, ag labourer, born Scotland
Fanny do, mother, 51 (A* index says 61), Cumberland Castle on Ely
Fanny Broman (could be Bowman) child grand, 3, b Cumberland, Upperby
boarding with them Charles Bains, 42, and Mary Ann Bains, 32, he a retired silk maker, both born Lancashire, Chipping, both marked as unmarried
:)

Robert Todd and Hannah Hulme b. Ormskirk were married abt June 1863 Carlisle 8b 1015.
Fanny (Frances) was born 1868 Blackwell St. Cuthbert, father William Bowman b 1826 Heskett, mother Ann Todd b. 1838 Carleton (Thomas 1841 Todd's sister).

[Geoff Everitt]

You won't get a maiden name on a death cert, but you should get "wife of" or "widow of".

Looking at the IGI, the only Frances bap at Castle Sowerby 1814-24 was a Frances BROWN, 25 Sept 1819, of John and Frances.

Why don't you think James (1860) was Eleanor's son? I agree it's odd to call him a Boarder though.

The place is Cummersdale - map http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=338791&Y=553158&A=Y&Z=120

[Isambard]

You won't get a maiden name on a death cert, but you should get "wife of" or "widow of".

Looking at the IGI, the only Frances bap at Castle Sowerby 1814-24 was a Frances BROWN, 25 Sept 1819, of John and Frances.

Why don't you think James (1860) was Eleanor's son? I agree it's odd to call him a Boarder though.

The place is Cummersdale - map http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=338791&Y=553158&A=Y&Z=120

Ooops! I missed the G as in G son for James in 1861 census. Mary, 66, his grandmother would have been a bit old to have a 10 month old son. :)

James was born in 1860, four years before John Harrison and Eleanor Todd were married, and apparently not adopted by John Harrison as step father.

[Isambard]

You won't get a maiden name on a death cert, but you should get "wife of" or "widow of".

Looking at the IGI, the only Frances bap at Castle Sowerby 1814-24 was a Frances BROWN, 25 Sept 1819, of John and Frances.

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That Frances looks promising , but the only Frances Brown married around 1838, that I can find on IGI and Free BMD, married John Wane, 28 Sept 1839 Bassenthwaite. (Ann Todd first child of Thomas Todd and Francis born 1838). :(

[Geoff Everitt]

That Frances looks promising , but the only Frances Brown married around 1838, that I can find on IGI and Free BMD, married John Wane, 28 Sept 1839 Bassenthwaite. (Ann Todd first child of Thomas Todd and Francis born 1838). :(

1851 census has
John WANE 74 Tea Dealer, Bassenthwaite
Frances 44 Bassenthwaite
Mary 4 Gilcrux

1841
Gilcrux
Frances WANE 30 Ind (indexed WARE)
Perhaps John was away dealing tea ;)

[Isambard]

1851 census has
John WANE 74 Tea Dealer, Bassenthwaite
Frances 44 Bassenthwaite
Mary 4 Gilcrux

1841
Gilcrux
Frances WANE 30 Ind (indexed WARE)
Perhaps John was away dealing tea ;)

Was John Wane Frances's father or husband? I'll opt for father, although as a tea drinking 74 year old I don't discount the other possibilty. Tea is very stimulating. :)

Frances at Gilcrux was born abt 1811, vs. abt 1807 for Frances at Bassenthwaite and 25 Sept 1819, baptism at Castle Sowerby for Frances Brown. The hunt for marriage of Thomas Todd and Frances (Brown??) continues. :)

[Geoff Everitt]

Frances was JW's wife.

[Isambard]

You may be interested in this Robert TODD, born Dalston. Possibly your fellows brother, a Journeyman joiner.

Botcherby Village, Carlisle, St Cuthbert
Henry Todd, head, 30, Master Joiner employing 5 men, born Sowerby
Mary Todd, wife, 23, Joiners Wife, born Moorhouse
George Waugh, apprentice, unm, 20, joiner, born Longcroft
William Johnstone, do, 13, do, born Greystoke
John Watson , journeyman, unm, 21, do, born Mirkwith?
Robert Todd, do, unm, 21, do, born Dalston
Jane Carritthers, serv, unm, 19 , house maid born Carlisle
RG9; Piece: 3917; Folio: 55; Page: 17

I'll have a fossick around in 1851. :)

Henry Todd was possibly a relative of Robert Todd and his brother Thomas (1841 Dalston) Todd.
Henry was christened 25 May 1829 at Castle Sowerby. His parents were William Todd and Elizabeth Greenbow. married 16 Feb 1805 at Castle Sowbery. Where/when was William Todd born and what is his relationship Robert's and Thomas's father, Thomas (1808 Scotland) Todd?

[Isambard]

I'm still working to find what was Frances' family name and when/where she and Thomas 1808 were married. Frances was born Castle Sowerby. Before I spend more money at the GRO, would a death certificate for the following entry show a maiden name and husband?:

"Deaths Jun 1876 Todd Frances aged 60 Penrith 10b 256"

Hoorah! The GRO birth registration for Thomas Todd b. 2 January 1841, Cardew (Carlisle Vol 25 page 64), shows his father as Thomas Todd, residence Cardew, and mother as Frances Todd formerly Wood.

Now to find when and where Thomas and Frances were married. :)

[Isambard]

Hoorah! The GRO birth registration for Thomas Todd b. 2 January 1841, Cardew (Carlisle Vol 25 page 64), shows his father as Thomas Todd, residence Cardew, and mother as Frances Todd formerly Wood.

Now to find when and where Thomas and Frances were married. :)

Oh dear, no Dalston marriages on IGI? Where to look now? |help|

It's likely that Thomas and Frances were married about 1837/1838, in Dalston, looking at the 1841 census:

1841
HO107; Piece 164; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Dalston; County: Cumberland; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 7; Page: 8

Thomas Todd , 30 ag lab,-., S (Scotland)
Frances do, 25, y
Ann do, 3, y
Robert do, 1, y
Thomas do, 3 Mo , y

Isambard

[Isambard]

Oh dear, no Dalston marriages on IGI? Where to look now? |help|

It's likely that Thomas and Frances were married about 1837/1838, in Dalston, looking at the 1841 census:

1841
HO107; Piece 164; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Dalston; County: Cumberland; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 7; Page: 8

Thomas Todd , 30 ag lab,-., S (Scotland)
Frances do, 25, y
Ann do, 3, y
Robert do, 1, y
Thomas do, 3 Mo , y

Isambard

Since the marriage is likely to have occured prior to September 1837, I've decided to help the British economy. |wave| I've sent a few £'s to the Cumbria County Council to have their researchers have a look at parish records. The service is popular, so the wait time is six to eight weeks. Hopefully the New Year will bring interesting news. :)

Isambard

[Isambard]

Since the marriage is likely to have occured prior to September 1837, I've decided to help the British economy. |wave| I've sent a few £'s to the Cumbria County Council to have their researchers have a look at parish records. The service is popular, so the wait time is six to eight weeks. Hopefully the New Year will bring interesting news. :)

Isambard

Wow, what great service from the Cumbria County Council! Having placed my query on 2 December I received a response by regular mail today (30 December)- with apologies for the delay. Now that's service indeed.

I've learned that Frances Wood was baptized 21 Nov 1819 Raughton Head and was the illegitimate daughter of James Bell and Mary Wood of Stocklewath. A bastardy bond was posted 5 May 1819 by James Bell of Ireby and John Mason of Botchergate, £50 each.

Frances Wood and Thomas Todd were married 12 June 1837 in Dalston. I'm still looking for details of Thomas Todd's birth circa 1808 Scotland. :)

Isambard