John Hargreaves (born Stoke on Trent, circa 1803)

[Lucky]

Please could anyone help me to find any information about John Hargreaves born about 1803. I can find him on the 1851 census and also have details of his marriage to Rachael 0akes on 1.9.1828 witnessed by Thomas Bailey and James Partington. He was born in Stoke on Trent.

[Geoffers]

I cannot help directly - but in your shoes I would be trying two places:

Non-conformist records which are available online via the pay-per-view site 'TheGenealogist'

Staffordshire Record Office at Stafford for the parish registers of Stoke on Trent. Registers which record baptisms, banns, marriages and burials are the basic source for tracing families prior to the start of civil registration in 1837.

[Sandyhall]

Please could anyone help me to find any information about John Hargreaves born about 1803. I can find him on the 1851 census and also have details of his marriage to Rachael 0akes on 1.9.1828 witnessed by Thomas Bailey and James Partington. He was born in Stoke on Trent.

Hi
Here he is with wife and children & Rachael's Father

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 986; Book: 16; Civil Parish: Biddulph; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 18; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 18;

John Hargreves 35
Rachell Hargreves 35
Anne Hargreves 11
John Hargreves 10
Rachall Hargreves 8
Sammuel Hargreves 5
Matilda Hargreves 4
James Hargreves 11 Mo
John Oakes 70

Regards Sandy

[Lucky]

Thank you so much Sandy, I have tried for ages to get more information -how did you find that?
Lucky

[Lucky]

Thank you for your help. I think I shall try to visit the records 0ffice in Stafford, I have never been to a Records 0ffice before so I'm sure I shall find it interesting.
Lucky

[peter-robinson8]

Have you tried the Parish Records on microfiche at Biddulph Library? I too have ancestors called Hargreaves in the area, but mainly in South Cheshire.
I have the book of marriages at Biddulph Parish Church which gives the details you mention.
Sorry I can't help any further,
Regards, Kathleen.

[Lucky]

Hi Kathleen,

Thank you for your suggestion - I will give that a try!

Lucky

[Sandyhall]

Hi
Some Christenings for John & Rachel's children from the IGI

RACHEL HARGREAVES 07 APR 1833 Biddulph, Stafford, England
SAMUEL HARGREAVES 11 OCT 1835 Biddulph, Stafford, England
JOHN HARGREAVES 05 JUN 1831 Biddulph, Stafford, England
ANNE HARGREAVES 01 NOV 1829 Biddulph, Stafford, England

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Hi

Have you got the 1861 Census with some of the children altogether with brother Solomon b 1846.

Do you have James with wife Harriett and children 71 to 1901 Census.

Was John with his sisters in 1851 census

Sandy

PS all christenings in other post were in Buddulph.

[Geoffers]

Thank you for your help. I think I shall try to visit the records 0ffice in Stafford, I have never been to a Records 0ffice before so I'm sure I shall find it interesting.

They are fascinating places; some suggestions to consider:

1. Have a look at what is recorded on their web-site - it will help you to get a feel of where things are and what you might order to look at when you first arrive.

2. When you first get to a record office, take half an hour or so just to wander around and look at what there is and where to find it.

3. Before you go, list out on a sheet of paper what you are trying to locate. After each 'target' leave some space to record what you have checked and the result. It is really easy to become side-tracked. Leave space on the sheet to add things which you see and take your eye when you first look around the record office.

A little planning makes sure that you make best use of your valuable time. If you get stuck, don't be nervous about asking the staff for help - it's what they are paid to do and these days most are really helpful.

Good luck.

[Sandyhall]

Hi
This is them on the 1851 Census- Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2167; Folio: 572; Page: 20

John Hargreaves 48
R Hargreaves 49
A Hargreaves 21
J Hargreaves 20
R Hargreaves 18
S Hargreaves 15
M Hargreaves 13
J Hargreaves 10
S Hargreaves 5

It seems about right...

Sandy

[Lucky]

Hi
Thank you for information about about the Christenings of John & Rachel's children.
In the 1851 census John is with Rachel and his children and that is about as far as I have managed to get so a big thank you for your help

[Lucky]

Thank you for the information about the Christenings.
In the 1851 census John was with Rachel and their children but I hadn't managed to find any other information so a huge thank you
Lucky

[Lucky]

Hi
Thank you for the information about the Christenings.
0n the 1851 census John is with Rachel and their children and that is about the only thing I have managed to find so a huge thank you for your help
Lucky

[Sandyhall]

Hi
1861 Census info Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2612; Folio: 45; Page: 19;

John Hargraves 30
Saml Hargraves 26
Matilda Hargraves 23
James Hargraves 20
Solomon Hargraves 15

Sandy

[Lucky]

Hi
Thank you for the information about the Christenings.
In the 1851 census I have John with Rachel and their children and that is about all I had managed to find on him so a huge thanks for your help
Lucky

[Lucky]

Apologies for multiple responses and thank-yous... new to the forum, and just working out how it operates as I go along. Really appreciate everyone's feedback.

[Sandra Parker]

I have a number of Hargreaves. Although they lived at Norton, Burslem areas, I have a couple of references to Biddulph, including marriage there. My Hargreaves married into Buckley, Bourne, Ball, Bailey and Hulme families. Are any of those names familiar?
My earliest Hargreaves is Henry (?-C1738), his son Francis, (1715-1802), his son William (1747-1834), and his son Thomas (1778-1864)after that I've got quite a few more.

Welcome to the world of the past, where we go forward by going backward!

Sandra with the spectacled aura.

[Lucky]

Hi Sandra,
None of the names are familiar to me but I am only back to 1803 and my Hargreaves were from Biddulph so maybe I shall find a connection - thank you for your welcome!
Lucky