Roddis Bugbrooke Willoughby Byfield ??

[shaz04]

Hello :)

Im a little stuck on my Roddis family.

I have William Roddis (a baker in Byfield) b abt 1795, he married a Charlotte Capel/Capell.
They had a son Thomas Capel Roddis c abt 1821 in Bugbrooke.
Other children could be Henry,Joseph,Mary Ann, John, William ??

Thomas came to Australia .... I cant find him on any passenger lists, maybe he was a good swimmer!

He married a Sarah Miller & settled in Snake Valley Victoria.
The Capel name has gone through all the generations of children male & female here in Australia.

Im trying to help my mum do her tree & I think we have hit the |banghead|
Cheers & thanks for reading

[Sandyhall]

Hello :)

Im a little stuck on my Roddis family.

I have William Roddis (a baker in Byfield) b abt 1795, he married a Charlotte Capel/Capell.
They had a son Thomas Capel Roddis c abt 1821 in Bugbrooke.
Other children could be Henry,Joseph,Mary Ann, John, William ??
Im trying to help my mum do her tree & I think we have hit the |banghead|
Cheers & thanks for reading

Hi
from the IGI children of William and Charlotte Roddis christening dates all at Bugbrooke.

William 17 May 1818
Thomas 15 July 1821
Mary Ann 14 May 1826
John 14 May 1826

Regards Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Hi

Charlotte Capell christening 5 June 1796 Father Richard, Mother Ann, Bugbrooke.

From the IGI

Regards Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Hi

Not sure if this is the right one but a Charlotte Capell married William REDDIS (note spelling) 14 Aug 1815 Broughton, Northamptonshire. (IGI)

Broughton is quite away from Byfield and Bugbrooke that is what is puzzling me, why go all that way to get married (Thinking out loud here) unless they ran away.

Regards Sandy

PS have found most of them on the Census and marriages if you want that information as well.

[southistle]

William RODDIS married Charlotte CAPELL 14th August 1815 at Bugbrooke
Both of the parish, bachelor and spinster

This is in the Northants Marriage Index

[shaz04]

Good Morning :)
Thankyou Sandy & Southistle for replying!

This was where we got confused.... William & Charlotte Reddis & Roddis ....same dates different places ? maybe there were 2 families?

Sandy, if you could put the census & marriages up, we would appreciate it.

On Thomas's death certificate he lists born in Byfield & been in Australia 40 years.

Thanks again for the quick replies! : )

[Sandyhall]

Hi
Be carefully their are 2 Family's William Roddis and Charlotte Capell married 1815 and William Roddis and Charlotte Jones married 19 Dec 1824 Floore, Northamptonshire.

1841 Census
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1137; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Willoughby; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 7; Page: 10; Line: 2
Charlotte, 45 Mary, 15 Richard, 14 Joseph, 8 Henry, 5

1851 Census
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2070; Folio: 250; Page: 8;
For William and Charlotte.

1861
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2213; Folio: 88B; Page: 4;
Charlotte and Joseph.


Have a look at this Census William Roddis married to Hannah West one of the children is called Capel Austin Roddis this has got to be one of William and Charlotte's children, their is also a marriage for Capel Austin to a Rose Kane 1865 in Liverpool and one of their children is called Austin Capel all found on the census

1851 Census
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1739; Folio: 556; Page: 36

Regards Sandy

[southistle]

The baptisms found in the IGI for Bugbrooke are correct, but in the parish register there is additional information.

The place of abode for all is Byfield, and William's occupation is baker.

[shaz04]

Morning :)

Two families!! No housework will be done here for ages! :)

Byfield is right we are sure, & William was a Baker (as was Thomas).
I found a piece on the internet saying
William Roddis of Byfield, a Baker, Dealer & Chapman went bankrupt July 14 1829! (bet it was him)

So I think we have a William Roddis b 1795 d 1879 Rugby married a Charlotte Capell b 1796 d 1869 Rugby.
Married in 1815 Bugbrooke.
Children
William c 1818
Thomas c 1821
Mary Ann c 1826
John c 1826
Joseph c 1835
Henry c 1835 9 years difference between John, Joseph & Henry.

Sandy, will check out Capel Austin & Austin Capel & try to piece it together, the Capels must be ours : ) (unless its a common name)

Southistle, thanks for verifying the baptisms, where do I find the Parish Registers? any extra information is great here :)

Thankyou again for your help :)

[Sandyhall]

Bugbrooke Parish Registers

Christenings 1791 - 1794 & Burials 1786 - 1794

Burial - Richard Capell 12 Sept 1792

Christenings 1793 - 1812 & Burials 1794 - 1812

William son of James & Mary Roddis was born 10 April 1795 & Christened 10 May 1795

Charlotte daughter of Richard & Ann Capell born 25 April1796 & Christened 5 June 1796

Ann daughter of James & Mary Roddis born 1 Dec 1796 &
Christened Privately 10 Dec 1796 - Burial 28 Dec 1796 age 1 month.

Thomas son of James & Mary Roddis born 7 Dec 1798 &
Christened 25 Dec 1798

Rose Hannah daughter of James & Mary Roddis born 22 Jan 1801 &
Christened 8 Feb 1801 - Burial 21 March 1804 age 3 years.

John son of James & Mary Roddis born 8 May 1803 &
Christened 29 May 1803

James son of James & Mary Roddis born 22 Mar 1805 &
Christened 14 April 1805

Mary Daughter of James & Mary Roddis born 25 Aug 1806 &
Christened 12 Oct 1806 - Burial 8 Feb 1807 age 5 months.

John son of Thomas & Hannah Capell born 10 May 1808 &
Christened 16 Oct 1808

James son of Richard & Ann Capell born 7 March 1808 &
Christened 16 Oct 1808

Rebecca daughter of Thomas & Hannah Capell born 15 March 1811 &
Christened 10 Nov 1811

Burial of Mary the wife of James Roddis, Baker, age 38 OTP 5 May 1808

Some more to follow.....

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Marriages 1813 - 1838

William Roddis & Charlotte Capell 14 Aug 1815 (you already have)

Thomas Roddis & Ann Earl OTP 17 Jan 1828 both signed their names an John Roddis was Witness.

Christenings 1813 - 1851

No 81 - William son of William & Charlotte Roddis, Baker, Abode Byfield - 17 May 1818

No 152 - Thomas son of William & Charlotte Roddis, Baker, Abode Byfield - 15 July 1821

No 268 - John son of William & Charlotte Roddis, Baker, Abode Byfield - 14 May 1826

No 269 - Mary Ann daughter of William & Charlotte Roddis, Baker, Abode Byfield - 14 May 1826

No other children of William & Charlotte

Some more to follow.......
Sandy

[Sandyhall]

No 507 - James Walker son of Howard & Ann Capell, Blacksmith of Bugbrooke - 31 July 1836

No 552 - Emma daughter of Howard & Ann Capell, Blacksmith of Bugbrooke - 3 June 1837

No 599 - Sarah Ann daughter of Howard & Ann Capell, Blacksmith of Bugbrooke - 4 Oct 1840

Still some more.......

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

No 20 - Elizabeth daughter of Thomas & Hannah Capell, Blacksmith Bugbrooke - 9 Oct 1814

No 32 - Howard son of Richard & Ann Cappell, Blacksmith Bugbrooke - 7 May 1815

No 335 - Mary Ann daughter of Thomas & Ann Roddis, Farmer of Bugbrooke - 7 June 1829

No 376 - Thomas son of Thomas & Ann Roddis, Farmer of Bugbrooke - 30 Jan 1831

No 429 - Elizabeth daughter of Thomas & Ann Roddis, Farmer of Bugbrooke - 28 April 1833

No 486 - George son of Thomas & Ann Roddis, Farmer of Bugbrooke - 18 Oct 1835

No 523 - Eliza daughter of Thomas & Ann Roddis, Farmer of Bugbrooke - 21 Feb 1837

No 558 - Ellen daughter of Thomas & Ann Roddis, Farmer of Bugbrooke - 23 Sept 1838

That's all for now

Regards Sandy
PS the numbers are if you want to order copies from Northampton Records Office.

[Janet Howell]

Back to Bugbrooke and the Roddis family; - Susannah Roddis married Nimrod Gardner at Bugbrooke on 5th Nov 1787.It seems that she was born at Heyford, Northants on 23rd Dec 1764 and died on 26th Oct 1851. Their children, born in Bugbrooke, were James 8th Sept 1795, Thomas 1797 and many others. Is this the same Roddis family and did they therefore originate in Heyford a generation or so back?
Janet

[Pennie]

Hi ...

Just jumping into this thread!

I have access to Byfield PRs at my local library - anything particular that needs checking? (Please note that these are fiches of actual registers - not typewritten transcripts, and no indexes - so I need to have a reasonable idea of dates etc.).

Pennie

[VivPHunter]

Hi Pennie,
Like Sharryn, who I have just found to be related to the RODDIS clan, I am looking for info on John Roddis b1826 in Byfield, christened 14 May 1826. parents William & Charlotte. I have a copy of a John Roddis marrying Fanny Piggott in St Pancras, London Feb 1852; However I had been told that he had married a 'MARY' can you throw any light on this maybe.
Everso many thanks. I started off having no family now I have over 1000.......... Viv

[janbooth]

There are these marriages on the Northants Marriage Index 1837-60 which may be relevant to you:

6 March 1851 at Bugbrooke Thomas RODDIS, otp, widower, full age, Farmer, father James RODDIS, Baker & Mary ASHBY, otp, widow, full age, father William PEASNALL, Farmer

6 May 1839 at Harpole William RODDIS, of Bugbrooke, bachelor, full age, Baker, father William RODDIS, Baker & Hannah WEST, otp, spinster, Service, father William WEST, Labourer

30 November 1843 at Bugbrooke Thomas PARISH, otp, bachelor, full age, Tailor, father Richard PARISH, Labourer & Mary RODDIS, otp, spinster, full age, Milliner, father James RODDIS, Baker

Marriage Index 1700-1837:

26 June 1809 at Bugbrooke James RODDIS, otp, widower & Rachael PARBURY, otp, widow

Janet

[Pennie]

The 1861 census has a John RODDIS (born c 1824 in Byfield, Northants), married to a Fanny and living in Friern Barnet, Middx. The eldest child was born in c1855, which would fit with the marriage date.

There is a John and Mary RODDIS on the same census, living in Northampton, but he was born c1815 in Northampton.

Pennie

[VivPHunter]

Many thanks Jan and Penny for your help, this confirms my findings and also more info.
many thanks
Viv

[VivPHunter]

Back again, just getting back into it.... I can not find any info of who James Roddis (B.apx1770) m Mary ..... as to WHO Mary was - was she Mary Peasnal or was she married to another James?? now getting confused.
I must say all of the above is pretty impressive and extremely helpful - thank you all.
regards
Viv

[janbooth]

Hi Viv,

The only marriage for a James RODDIS to a Mary at about the correct time on the Northants Marriage Index is the following:

10 October 1794 at Chacombe James RODDIS & Mary LAWRENCE, both of the parish, by banns.

This fits in relatively well with the baptismal date of first child William to your James & Mary - see what you think.

Janet

[VivPHunter]

Hi Viv,

The only marriage for a James RODDIS to a Mary at about the correct time on the Northants Marriage Index is the following:

10 October 1794 at Chacombe James RODDIS & Mary LAWRENCE, both of the parish, by banns.

This fits in relatively well with the baptismal date of first child William to your James & Mary - see what you think.

Janet

Hi Janet
Thanks brilliant, thank you very much. Now for a very ignorant question--- where can I see these records: In all of the info given before to Shaz there have been many references given, how do we access them?
Thanks again Viv

[janbooth]

The Marriage Index cds are available to purchase on Northamptonshire Family Tree website. FreeReg hold a lot of baptisms/marriages/burials for various Northamptonshire parishes - you can search to see which parishes and dates they cover - and Family Search Pilot site also have quite a few Northamptonshire records. Sandy's information looks as if came from the Parish Registers - you can order microfiche of parish registers direct from Northants RO which I have done in the past but I found their system a bit long-winded and rather expensive - but no doubt she will confirm this or not, plus their processes may have changed by now as it was a few years ago that I used their system.

Janet

[anedw]

Iy`s quite a while since this thread was started , and I`ve just found this story in the news.

Sept 27 1867 Newspapers.
On Saturday 21st September at the Colney Hatch Railway Station three children belonging to one family were cut to pieces. They were upon one side of the line and as a train had passed they ran across the railway, just as the 11.55 am express up Midland was passing through. The result was that the children were dismembered and smashed, their blood and brains being scattered over the engine. Their remains were collected and conveyed away to await an inquest. No blame is attached to the company, as although it is a level crossing a bridge has been erected for the safety and convenience of the public. The mother of the deceased , the widow of a gentleman` coachman resided at No 4 Ada Cottages, where her husband died fourteen months ago, leaving her with six children, three out of that number being killed as described. The shock to the poor woman was so excessive that it is feared she will not survive.
Dr Trevor is attending her and that gentleman gives but little hope of her recovery. The inquest was held at the Railway Tavern, Colney Hatch on Tuesday when after a long investigation the Coroner (Dr Hardwicke) gave the resolution that The Jury empanelled at the Railway Hotel, to inquire into the deaths of Fanny Eliza Roddis, Mary Ann Roddis and Henry Albert Roddis have returned a verdict of accidental death, are of an opinion that all public crossings and roads on railway lines should have proper superintendence and protection for the prevention of such accidents in the future. They also consider this crossing to be unsafe, and the jurors further wish to state the case for the mother of the children to be a fit one for the consideration and compensation of the railway company.

After coming across this in the papers I was curious about the tragic family, and a few searches found much more.

Fanny Piggott, daughter of Thomas Piggott coachman had married John Roddick son of William Roddis , a baker on February 13th 1852 at St Pancras Church, witnesses were Rose Piggott and Thomas Roddis.

A daughter Harriet Capel Roddis was born Dec qtr 1853 Wycombe distict, followed by the baptism at St Pancras of Jessie Roddis born 7 Dec 1856 bapt 15 March 1857 Tarington Mews.

The family moved and son Thomas was born at Colney Hatch and baptised on March 30th 1859 at Friar Barnet, he mustn`t have been expected to live, and sadly he was buried on April 16th aged 2 weeks.
More children followed , all baptised at Friar Barnet.

Born April 18th 1860 bapt May 20 Fanny Eliza, DIED

Born July 9 1861 bapt 20 July MaryAnn Roddis DIED

Born Feb 9th 1863 bapt March 15th Arthur Edward

Born Nov 2nd bapt Dec 4th 1864 Henry Albert DIED

Burial 1866 May 9 th aged 42 John Roddick Friar Barnett


1867 Sept 26 Station Road, burial at Friar Barnet
Elliza Fanny Roddis aged 7
Mary Ann Roddis aged 5
Henry Albert Roddis aged 3
.


1861 Friar Barnet
John Roddis 37 coachman b Northampton By Field
Fanny 31 Little Marlow Bucks
Harriet C 7 b “”
Jessie 4 b “”
Fanny 11 months b Colney Hatch

[VivPHunter]

I was gob smacked to receive this news. Thank you for sharing it. I knew John Roddis (my Gt.Gt.grandfather) and that 3 of the children had all died so young, but still to find out how, now I know except for John. Have been meaning to get the death cert for John for ages, now I am definately going to.How did you come across this information? I am anxious to get a copy of the article.
My Gt.Grandmother was an elder sister to the unfortunate mites her name was Jessie born 1856.

I can't thank you enough for this information, can I ask which newspaper? Thank you, thank you, thank yo. Viv

[shaz04]

Thankyou so much for posting this information!

I too was stuck with these 3 Roddis children, how unfortunate is this story.

Viv, after seeing this I did a search on Trove & it came up.

Cheers Shaz x

[anedw]

I was gob smacked to receive this news. Thank you for sharing it. I knew John Roddis (my Gt.Gt.grandfather) and that 3 of the children had all died so young, but still to find out how, now I know except for John. Have been meaning to get the death cert for John for ages, now I am definately going to.How did you come across this information? I am anxious to get a copy of the article.
My Gt.Grandmother was an elder sister to the unfortunate mites her name was Jessie born 1856.

I can't thank you enough for this information, can I ask which newspaper? Thank you, thank you, thank yo. Viv

I found another much larger article. I can send it to you, but will have to have your email adress, you can PM me.

[VivPHunter]

Hi, thank you so much again. my email address is viv AT harlequin7 DOT idps DOT co DOT uk - cant wait to hear from you. Funnily enough I have just this afternoon been telling 2 of my daughters all about this.
Best regards Viv