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flounder
16-03-2009, 11:18 AM
Hi all, am searching for Arthur lloyd Jones, born 1900 Merthyr Tydvil, Glamorgan, can anyone find him on the 1901 census living in Glamorgan, sorry havent got any other family info at the moment.
I would pick Jones living in Wales wouldnt I? lol

Thanks for any info
Wendy.xxx

suzieq08
16-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Dear Wendy

I have 'Jones' from Wales in my Family tree also and will take a peek for you regarding your Ancestor Arthur LLoyd Jones - I shall get back to you later today.

Kind regards

Suzie

emeltee
16-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Hi,
The only Arthur Lloyd Jones on the Glamorgan 1901 Census is 8m but his birthplace is down as Aberdare. His parents were Thomas and Mary.
All the other Arthur Jones' who fit the age were not born in Merthyr Tydfil. Sorry.
Emeltee

suzieq08
16-03-2009, 11:36 AM
Hi Wendy

Emeltee beat me to it - but I can concur that this is the only information that fits in with your information re: Merthyr Tydfil. Plus, Arthur LLoyd Jones' birth was registered in July/Aug/Sep Quarter. I hope this helps? If I can help with anything else please don't hesitate to let me know.

Kind Regards

Suzie

flounder
16-03-2009, 11:37 AM
Give me strength, my gt grandfather is definately going to give me the run around! I cant even find his marriage to Blodwen Evans, no one can. Maybe he just dropped out of the sky when my grandfather was born! lol

Thanks for the search, really appreciate it.

Wendy.xxx

flounder
16-03-2009, 11:40 AM
Thanks for everyones help, and really would appreciate you taking a peak for me Suzieq08. This family is certainly giving me a headache, i expect it going back to the 1800's, but not this close surely.

Wendy.xxx

suzieq08
16-03-2009, 12:10 PM
Hi! Wendy

Leave it with me - I know how tricky searching for the elusive 'Jones' can be. I promise to get back to you later day and let you know what I can find for you.

Kind regards

Suzie

flounder
16-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Thank you so much, this man is my gt grandfather and sadly due to a family fued that started with my parents marriage i never knew him.

Wendy.xxx

flounder
16-03-2009, 12:48 PM
Have had a good nose around at county's, Aberdare is sub registration district and Merthyr is the Registration district, so that would tie in as being the same, whoohoo! Something is going right for a change!

Wendy.xxx

suzieq08
16-03-2009, 1:18 PM
Hi Wendy

I have had a further peek for you re: your Great Grandfather, Arthur Lloyd Jones and his subsequent marriage to 'Blodwen Evans' - there appears to be numerous marriage entries between a 'Jones to an Evans' but sadly, none that I can see listed between an 'Arthur L. Jones to a Miss Blodwen Evans.' Perhaps, Blodwen had another Christian name that she used when she married your Great Grandfather - any ideas?

I also found your Great Grandfather's parent's listed in the 1891 Wales Census. Thomas and Mary resided at No: 21 Margaret Street, (town) Cwmdare, Civil Parish: Aberdare, Glamorgan. Thomas Jones' occupation is listed as a Labourer.

Thomas Jones was born abt 1856 in Llanwenog, Cardiganshire, Wales. Mary was born about 1860. In the 1891 Wales Census they had four boys: David - 8, Thomas - 6, Evan - 4 and Willam -1.

I shall have a further look to see if I can find a marriage entry between Thomas Jones to Mary for you. I shall also wait to hear from you if you are able to share any further information re: Arthur and 'Blodwen.'

Best wishes

Suzie

flounder
16-03-2009, 1:30 PM
Wow, your good, cant believe you got all that info! Thats amazing.

The only info u have is my grandfather, Ronald LLoyd Jones born 30/12/1921 in Bridgend, parents Arthur Lloyd Jones and Blodwen Jones nee evans, his siblings were Alice M L Jones Mar 1923, George TL Jones 1926, cant finda a birth for the other brother Anthony. Sadly thats all i have.
Oops do have the marriage cert for Ronald, he married Dorothy Celia Watts 1947.

Thanks again
Wendy.xxx

KEEFYP
16-03-2009, 1:58 PM
Hi,

Frustratingly FREEBMD has a marriage for a Blodwen Evans in Merthyr in the June 1920 quarter to a Mr Jones, but no corresponding entry to show if it is or isn't young Arthur Lloyd.

It would seem the corresponding entries either haven't been transcribed yet or have been mis-transcribed (as they are typewritten I would say the latter was unlikely, especially as there are no Jones's showing)

No chance he hyphenated it???

flounder
16-03-2009, 2:03 PM
That marriage is to a John Jones sadly, i am not sure he hiphenated his name, anything is possible, i am lucky that he has been using his 1st name, very unusual in my family, they all use middle or nicknames!

suzieq08
16-03-2009, 3:06 PM
Hi Wendy

Further to the information you kindly shared with me re: your Great Grandfather's children - I checked their birth entries on A* and found that Alice M.L. Jones is registered: Apr/May/Jun 1923, Bridgend, Glamorgan Vol. 11a Pg. No: 1669 - mother's maiden name: EVANS.
Re: George T.L. Jones, he is registered: Apr/May/Jun 1926, Bridgend, Glamorgan, Vol. 11a Pg. 1507 - mother's maiden name: EVANS.

I researched the Wales Free BMD site to hopefully connect 'Blodwen Evans to Arthur LLoyd Jones' but sadly, no joy. I will keep trying for you, as I know from my own past experience how frustrating it can be researching the surname 'Jones.' I do believe they did get married - it is just about finding the connecting information. Do you know where Blodwen was born/resided in Wales prior to her Marriage - as this could help us with our research?

I loo forward to hearing from you.

Suzie

flounder
16-03-2009, 3:12 PM
Thanks for all your hard work in searching, sadly i dont know where Blodwen came from, only info i have is that they were all from the same area, that narrows it down doesnt it. I have been in contact with my aunt, but she couldnt tell me any more than Arthur Jones, found the rest out for myself and bought the certs.
Its just so frustrating, the only cert that i want is that marriage and just cant get it!

Thanks again
Wendy.xxx

SBSFamilyhistory
27-03-2009, 3:08 PM
hi back again

I have found a possible marriage.

the transcribers on BMD have not helped us nor the original recoders.

nuff of that so what have I found i hear you ask.


QE Dec 1918 a Blodwen Evans married in Bridge, which turns out to be Bridgend, 2a 1428 which turns out to be 11a.

The name of the groom shows as Abiathar, but could this be a mistake? although this is a biblical name how likely is this.

Sue

copied across from the other thread

Sue

JoanneM
27-03-2009, 3:56 PM
It is Abiathar on the actual typed register on A***y, and there is also a birth for an Abiathar Jones showing in Bridgend in 1898 which could be him. :confused:

Is it possible that Blodwen had been married before and that her surname wasn't Evans when she married Arthur?

SBSFamilyhistory
27-03-2009, 4:25 PM
okay back to the drawing board.......

flounder
28-03-2009, 11:36 AM
Thanks for all your help, i suppose anything is possible with this family, i suppose she couldve been married before and as i only have her details on Ronalds birth cert as Blodwen Jones formally Evans, that doesnt really help if she was married before.
I did disgard that marriage because Bridge was in Kent, rather than short for Bridgend.
Oh well, like you say, back to the drawing board.

Thanks again
Wendy

SBSFamilyhistory
30-03-2009, 10:04 PM
Wendy bridge isn't short for bridgend.. just a mistake in the transcription.... Sue

flounder
31-03-2009, 9:43 AM
Thanks for everyones help, i just dont know what to do now! Do i order the 11a 1428 cert, had a look at fmp and this is Blodwen Evans, but because its Abiathur Jones, it makes me doubt it a bit.
What would anyone else do? Wait a little while a do a bit more searching or go for it and order the cert?

Thanks again for all your hard work, really appreciate it.

Wendy.xxx

KEEFYP
31-03-2009, 9:51 AM
Thanks for everyones help, i just dont know what to do now! Do i order the 11a 1428 cert, had a look at fmp and this is Blodwen Evans, but because its Abiathur Jones, it makes me doubt it a bit.
What would anyone else do? Wait a little while a do a bit more searching or go for it and order the cert?

Thanks again for all your hard work, really appreciate it.

Wendy.xxx

Personally Wendy I wouldn't order it especially as a possible birth for the wonderfully named Abiathur was found. I would do more digging into any possible earlier marriages.... but that's just me.

On behalf of my fellow transcriber for FreeBMD, can I apologise for the error (I haven't actually looked to see if it was one of mine...!!)
- Sue did you request a correction? No problem if not as I can - I just don't want to do it if you have already.

flounder
31-03-2009, 9:59 AM
Thanks you KeelyP.
I have also contacted Caerau library about electoral roles for the time my grandfather was born 1921, they past on the email to Bridgend, who then mailed me and told me i needed to contact Glamorgan, so have done that and hoping they reply soon. If only this can confirm what names they were using at any time, as i know my family had a habit of using all sorts of names, although as he has used Arthur on both his son marriage and birth cert i am 99% sure this is the name he has used all the time.
If only i had the time to go to Glamorgan and do a bit of digging myself.

Thanks again
Wendy.xxx

leonardpiggin
31-03-2009, 12:18 PM
HI
Could it be that when asked his name ,he replied:I be Arthur Jones
Just a thought.LenPiggin

SBSFamilyhistory
31-03-2009, 12:34 PM
Yes correction already submitted.

Sue



On behalf of my fellow transcriber for FreeBMD, can I apologise for the error (I haven't actually looked to see if it was one of mine...!!)
- Sue did you request a correction? No problem if not as I can - I just don't want to do it if you have already.