Denny Lodge Township

[Steve Steere]

Can someone tell me exactly where Denny Lodge Township was please, the Township being what I am looking for.

The cenuses give an address of Roughdown, Denny Lodge Township, Fawley. (I'm looking at the Musselwhite families).

Roughdown is the name of farmland between Blackfield and Holbury, and has Rowdown (a road?) running Southeast from it, which is an alternate address found on the census for the same family.

Denny Lodge is between Lyndhurst & Beaulieu, so I doubt the 'Township' was there, and therefore not near or even in the Fawley Registration district, and of course not in Roughdown.

As late as the 1920's I have seen it written in a record transcript as Roughdown, Denny Lodge Township, Fawley.

There is nothing to help on Google or Genuki, Old Maps, etc. At the most there is a Denny Walk near Fawley, but no mention of a township, and is the only one I've come across in my research.

I do wonder if it was a name given to the dwellings in Rowdown, as there do appear to be quite a few of them on the 1871 map, but why Denny Lodge Township? My local contact who lives in Fawley is also mystified, so is there anyone who can solve the query!

[Geoffers]

Can someone tell me exactly where Denny Lodge Township was please, the Township being what I am looking for.
The cenuses give an address of Roughdown, Denny Lodge Township, Fawley. (I'm looking at the Musselwhite families).
Roughdown is the name of farmland
I can't help with the location, but I've come across rural areas where itinerent farm workers camped (and also navvy encampments) being called 'town' or 'township' - could this simply be an area by Denny Lodge where potato pickers - or whatever - stayed whilst there was local work??

Geoffers

[Steve]

Steve,

Denny Lodge is an area very close to Ashurst Station close to Lyndhurst. It comes under RG13/1051 in the 1901 census. It's one of these extra parocial parishes.

There are 51 Musslewhite's in RG13/1051 in 1901. If you let me know more about who your looking for I'll see what i can find for you. http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif

Kind regards

Steve

[Steve Steere]

Thanks for the offer Steve but I already have them from all censuses bar the 51. Unfortunately Denny Lodge Township is not mentioned at Denny Lodge, but appreciate the thought.

Geoffers; the Musselwhite families remained there for many years and the word Township appears over the years, and so far up to the 1920's. (From census records and a church record). They were all just Ag Labs and were not itinerent. I have a feeling it is a name given locally to a concentrated area of housing not within a hamlet, but would like the definitive answer. Appreciate the reply.

Looking at the 1871 Enumerators District for Denny Lodge it says:
Sub Registration District Fawley:
"Part of the township of Denny Lodge including two houses at Blackdown (formerly Beaulieu Road Station), Culverley, Kings Hat, Sandyhill, Hilltop, Otterwood Gatehouse, Cowleage, Ipersbridge, Rowdown, Gatebridge and Gatewood Hill."

Sub Registration District Lyndhurst:
"Lyndhurst parish (part of), all the houses on the left side of the road from Emerydown through the village to the Stag Inn, crossing the turnpike there and including Glasshayes, the Bench, Pond Road and Denny Lodge with a further three houses from 95/2, returning thence to the Southampton Road and to Pikes Hill."

But no mention of a Township!

Regards,

[Steve Steere]

When is Township not a town where people live? When it is the Township of Denny Lodge!

I kept looking and eventually found an enumerator's description in 1891. It says " Part of the civil township of Denny Lodge. Bounded on the west by the highway from Anger Corner in Eling Parish to North Gate in Beaulieu parish; On the north and east by by the parishes of Dibden and Fawley; And on the south by the parishes of Exbury and Beaulieu. Comprising Sandyhill, Ipersbridge, Rowdown, Gatebridge, Gatewood Hill, Kings Coppice, Cowleaze, Otterwood Gate Cottage, Hilltop and Kings Hat."

It is an unusual way of naming an area, and I would still like to know why so named. However I should have done a bit more digging before posting, but hope that someone else may find the information useful.

Regards,

Steve

[Pat English]

Since you were kind enough to reply to my thread, I thought I would reply to yours!
My great great great grandfather Joseph Giles, from the Dorset quarter of the family, was landlord of the Royal Oak at Hill Top, Denny Lodge in 1881 at the age of 75, and one of his sons and some grandchildren lived with him.
So it was interesting to find out more about Denny Lodge.
Perhaps the Gileses and Musselwhites supped a pint of porter together...

Best wishes,
Pat