Which County is Tintwistle In?

[pierce-brosnan]

Hi everyone, me again.

I'm a bit confused. In the census it says Tintwistle is in Cheshire but I've been told by Graham & Trudy (thank you) that the registration district for Tintwistle is Ashton-under-Lyne which is in Lancashire. When I'm posting messages on the forum, which county should I be posting them in please? :O)

[Astoria]

This really depends on which years you are looking for Ashton under Lyne formerly in Lancashire is now part of Tameside. Tintwistle close to Glossop I think is in Derbyshire.

[Jan1954]

Stick with Cheshire.

Tintwistle is one of those places that played hop-scotch with the registration districts. Have a look here (http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/tintwistle.html) for details.

Down south there is the Risbridge Registration District, which covers places in Suffolk, Essex and Cambridgeshire - some of which moved counties from time to time! Not easy, sometimes..... ;)

[pierce-brosnan]

Stick with Cheshire.

Tintwistle is one of those places that played hop-scotch with the registration districts. Have a look here (http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/tintwistle.html) for details.

Down south there is the Risbridge Registration District, which covers places in Suffolk, Essex and Cambridgeshire! Not easy, sometimes..... ;)

Thank you Jan X

[glenncampbell99]

Living close to Tintwistle - it's postal address is Hyde Cheshire even though it it only 3 miles from Glossop Derbyshire but I would imagine it originally would have come under Ashton u Lyne.

Daphne

[pierce-brosnan]

This really depends on which years you are looking for Ashton under Lyne formerly in Lancashire is now part of Tameside. Tintwistle close to Glossop I think is in Derbyshire.
It's very confusing isn't it :) Thanks for taking the time to reply.

[glenncampbell99]

Living close to Tintwistle - it's postal address is Hyde Cheshire even though it is only 3 miles from Glossop Derbyshire. I would imagine though that it used to come under Ashton u Lyne.

Daphne

[Peter_uk_can]

Pierce. Tintwhistle has "been around the block"

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/tintwistle.html

Well known bottle neck for those trying to take the Woodhead Pass route to Manchester airport

[pierce-brosnan]

Thank you so much :O) All this information is very helpful. I may be a while trying to digest it all lol.

[glenncampbell99]

I stand to be corrected. Tintwistle does come under Glossop Derbyshire. I checked with someone who lives there. Apologies.

Daphne

[Graham Hadfield]

Not surprised you're confused :D

I agree with Jan that Cheshire is the county to go for initially. Records older than 35 years will probably be with Cheshire CRO and/or Tameside Local Studies Library. You may well find, though, that residents of Tintwistle may well have been employed in other Cheshire towns (e.g. Mottram, Hollingworth, Hyde or Dukinfield) or over the county borders in Derbyshire (Hadfield, Dinting or Glossop) or Lancashire (AuL or Stalybridge (which itself has switched between Cheshire & Lancashire)).

However, to expand on what Daphne mentioned, it may be worth a bit of an explanation of differences in boundaries of British areas and institutions. As I was born in Glossop and brought up in Hadfield, just over the county border from Tintwistle, I know a bit about the area. Hope I get the next bits right having said that :D

Tintwistle (pronounced Tynsel by the natives) is part of the Longdendale "panhandle" bit of Cheshire so, to use Peter's expression, has "been around the block" for that reason :D

The border between Derbyshire and Cheshire was traditionally the River Etherow - basically because it was a convenient geographical feature when Kings of England were dividing up the land amongst their favourites. That situation lasted until 1974 when the county border was moved as part of local government reorganisation and Tintwistle became part of Derbyshire.

Geographically, Longdendale has always had more in common with Lancashire than the Macclesfield Hundred of Cheshire (which it formed part of) so I'm not sure why Longdendale became part of Cheshire rather than Lancashire - possibly something to do with who owned the land.

Boundaries of Poor Law Unions were drawn up for local administrative convenience rather than being based on traditional dominant local government areas so some anomalies arose. AuL was the largest convenient town so Longdendale was include in AuL poor law union.

Registration district boundaries were drawn up for national administrative convenience so were often based on poor law unions - which was the case with AuL.

Postal addresses are a different thing altogether and decided for the convenience of the Royal Mail for the purpose of delivering letters. So, until the 1960s, Tintwistle had a postal address of "near Manchester".

When the Royal Mail brought in Post Codes the major sorting office which covered the north Derbyshire and Londendale areas was Stockport, with subordinate sorting offices in Glossop (SK13) and Hyde (SK14). Tintwistle (and Hadfield) post was sorted through Hyde so that is why the postal address included "via Hyde, Cheshire". A few years ago the post codes in the area were reorganised and now Tintwistle is in SK13 with an address of "Tintwistle, Derbyshire".

I hope this explanation isn't too confusing :D

Graham

[Barbara Wilkinson]

You beat me to it Graham!
My son has just moved to "Tinsel" - as he now insists on calling it. His house is near the church, and just out of interest, we looked up various bits and pieces about the church and area - yes, it has been around the block.
GENUKI has it listed under Cheshire (http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/tintwistle.html) on its pages.

Sorry - just realised the information about GENUKI has already been posted!

[pierce-brosnan]

Aww thanks Graham, that is another fabulous explanation. Coming from the Isle of Wight it's a bit of a trek to get to any record offices but you never know. I might just be able to persuade hubby that we NEED a holiday up there :)

Thank you again to everyone for all your help, what a great forum this is x