Molly Dix, staithes

[samantha]

looking for Molly Dix who lived in Staithes for a time & possibly was born near there? Molloy was the daughter of Mary Ellen & Charles Dix. She had a daughter Joan & a son Robin. Can anyone help with any info please?

[Trish]

looking for Molly Dix who lived in Staithes for a time & possibly was born near there? Molloy was the daughter of Mary Ellen & Charles Dix. She had a daughter Joan & a son Robin. Can anyone help with any info please?Samantha, would you have any more details -- timeframe, birthdates? I just checked the censuses and, at a quick glance, I don't see any matches there... but any more information that you might have would hope.

Trish

[samantha]

hi & thank you!

molly Dix was my Grandma (real name may have been Mary??) She was born in Guisborough in approx 1899 to Ellen Dix & Richard Dix. She lived in Staithes (I don't know how long) in approximately 1937. She marrried Robert Kildare & I believe she had at least 1 sibling whose name began with an L. Her father was a stone mason. That's about it. Bit vague, I know, but I am just starting out!

Any help you can give me, greatly appreciated.
thanks
Sam

[Trish]

hi & thank you!

molly Dix was my Grandma (real name may have been Mary??) She was born in Guisborough in approx 1899 to Ellen Dix & Richard Dix. She lived in Staithes (I don't know how long) in approximately 1937. She marrried Robert Kildare & I believe she had at least 1 sibling whose name began with an L. Her father was a stone mason. That's about it. Bit vague, I know, but I am just starting out!

Any help you can give me, greatly appreciated.
thanks
SamSam,

Thank you for the extra information -- it helps! I looked for Mary DIX in the 1901 census -- you can search it free online at www.
1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk.

I found the following family -- which I think may be yours. They are living in a workhouse but Richard isn't with them:

Name / Age in 1901 / Birthplace / Relationship / Marital Status / Civil Parish / Occupation
Ellen Dix 40 Not Stated Inmate Single Guisborough Household Work Domestic
Lillian Dix 9 Whitby, Yorkshire, England Inmate Single Guisborough
Mary Dix 1 Guisboro, Yorkshire, England Inmate Single Guisborough

Source information: RG13/4571
Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Guisborough
ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse
Folio: 123
Page: 3
Household schedule number: 1

You can see photos of Guisborough Union Workhouse at http://
users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Guisborough/Guisborough.html

I hope this helps. If I find Richard or anything more on Ellen in earlier censuses, I will let you know.

Trish

[samantha]

Hi Trish

That is fantastic. You have obviously been at this a long time???!!!

you have found out more info in 1 day than i have in a month. As I said I am just starting out, so it is a bit slow going. Anyway thank you so much for that. I would say that they are definately who I am looking for. i will have to see if I can track down the mysterious Richard.

thanks again, it is very exciting!

Sam

[Trish]

Hi Trish

That is fantastic. You have obviously been at this a long time???!!!

you have found out more info in 1 day than i have in a month. As I said I am just starting out, so it is a bit slow going. Anyway thank you so much for that. I would say that they are definately who I am looking for. i will have to see if I can track down the mysterious Richard.

thanks again, it is very exciting!

SamSam, I have received so much help from kind souls that it's rewarding to be able to help out other Forum members in turn. And, too, I think maybe doing so soothes my own frustrations with stubborn brick walls. I haven't been at this as long as some of the pros on this list [2 years or so only] but I do enjoy "finding" people.

One possible explanation for Mary Ellen's husband did occur to me... that maybe she was unmarried at the time of her daughter's birth and than DIX is her maiden name. Apparently, it was not uncommon for single women to use their father's or grandfather's names in place of the father on their children's birth certificates to avoid embarrassment. Is this a possiblity? I have to confirm this with another check but I think I saw a Richard Dix in the censuses who would be of an appropriate age to be Ellen's father...

Trish

[uksearch]

Rg 12 3996 folio 90
Wistherill (?) St,Hinderwell YKS
Richard DIX..H..M..57..Ironstone miner..New Haughton,Norfolk
Jane..W..M..58..Staithes in H
Mary Ellen..D..S..28..Staithes in H
William(?) thomas..S..S..22..Ironstone Miner Staithes in H
Jane..D..S..17..Staithes
Richard..S..S..15..Staithes
Arthur..S..S..13..Staithes
Lydia..D..7..Staithes
Polly..D..2..Staithes
Emma SHERWOOD..D..M..20..Staithes
Norah..Gd..2..Staithes

UK

[Trish]

Sam,

UK has given you the Richard DIX I was thinking of... I think it's worth exploring the possibility that Richard was your Mary Ellen's father.

By the time of the 1901 census Richard DIX has died. Here's his widow, Jane, and family living at/on [looks like...] Cawkar Bk in Easington:

Name / Age in 1901 / Birthplace / Relationship / Civil Parish / Occupation
Jane Dix 61 Staithes, Yorkshire, England Head Widow Easington
Arthur Dix 20 Staithes, Yorkshire, England Son Easington Ironstone Miner
Jane Greenway 27 Staithes, Yorkshire, England Daughter Easington
Jane Greenway 7 Penzance, Devon, England Granddaughter Easington
Pollie Dix 15 Penzance, Devon, England Granddaughter Easington

Source information: RG13/4566
Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Loftus
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Folio: 9
Page: 10
Household schedule number: 63

[Note that, on this census, Pollie is listed as a granddaughter whereas, in 1891, she is a daughter].

What do you think?

Trish

[samantha]

I suppose it is possible that Ellen Dix was called Mary ellen. The three that were on the 1901 census, I am VERY sure are the family. The ages all fit in nicely. On the 1901 census it also says she was single so perhaps she did take her fathers name (Dix) which is a bit dissapointing as i may never know the true father.i know on the genes reunited site there is quite a few with the Sherwood connection (as per UK search) so I will have a dig there! can you tell me what the abbreviations mean in the UK search. i realise S=son & D=daughter but for instance what does ss, wm mean (or am I just being supid??)

many thanks
Sam

[Trish]

...can you tell me what the abbreviations mean in the UK search. i realise S=son & D=daughter but for instance what does ss, wm mean (or am I just being supid??)...Sam, there are no stupid questions in family research. I believe what you're referring to is uksearch's short hand, right? If so, the first letter indicates the relationship to the head of the household and the second to marital status -- e.g.: hm = head married; wm = wife married; ss = son single; dm = daughter married, etc.

Good luck with your research!

Trish

[samantha]

Yes this is my family. can you tell me where you found thse details please?

Many thanks

[uksearch]

Yes this is my family. can you tell me where you found thse details please?

Many thanks


Hi,

In this particular case the info came from Ancestry.

cheers,

UK

[yvonne harrison]

Cowbar Bank is the part of Staithes over the beck, Cowbar Nab is the Headland. It is in the Easington parish if you are searching registers / graveyards, you would need to look in Easington as well as Staithes / Hinderwell.
Some of my ancestors also lived in the cottages on the cowbar side ( Humphrey, Dunn, Unthank)
good luck with your search,
regards, yvonne






Sam,

UK has given you the Richard DIX I was thinking of... I think it's worth exploring the possibility that Richard was your Mary Ellen's father.

By the time of the 1901 census Richard DIX has died. Here's his widow, Jane, and family living at/on [looks like...] Cawkar Bk in Easington:

Name / Age in 1901 / Birthplace / Relationship / Civil Parish / Occupation
Jane Dix 61 Staithes, Yorkshire, England Head Widow Easington
Arthur Dix 20 Staithes, Yorkshire, England Son Easington Ironstone Miner
Jane Greenway 27 Staithes, Yorkshire, England Daughter Easington
Jane Greenway 7 Penzance, Devon, England Granddaughter Easington
Pollie Dix 15 Penzance, Devon, England Granddaughter Easington

Source information: RG13/4566
Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Loftus
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Folio: 9
Page: 10
Household schedule number: 63

[Note that, on this census, Pollie is listed as a granddaughter whereas, in 1891, she is a daughter].

What do you think?

Trish

[Gary Masding]

It looks like your Molly Dix was my Great Aunt Mary. She had sisters (that I know of) Lillian and Lydia. Lillian married George Duck - she was my Grandmother. They lived at Cowbar, moving to 8 Coronation Road, Loftus around 1946. Lydia lived at Dale House near the Fox & Hounds. Aunt Mary married very well & lived in London as far as I know. I think her married name was Kildear and not Kildare. I met her once as far as I can recall. It must have been around 1956-58. I can barely remember. You're right, she did have a daughter named Joan & a son Robin. Joan worked as a fashion model, she married Milo Lewis. Milo directed Coronation Street & Take Your Pick. She and Milo split up around 1970 and the last I heard of him he was directing cheap blue films. Robin married a French girl, Marie Claude. They lived at Four Oaks near Sutton Coldfield in the early 70s, but moved to France, I think to Paris, in the 80s. Up until recently, it could be that he still is, Robin was visiting Staihes each summer. He paints watercolours, most of them of Staithes. The last time I saw him he'd rented a little gallery on Staithes side of the beck near the footbridge.

[ian wilkin]

Molly Dix may have been sister to my grandmother - Jane ( Lillian ) Dix - I,m a cousin to Gary.
The dates and ages listed in previous messages don't quite match, which is puzzling.
Jane Dix was born May 1892 - died May1973 ( I have birth and death certificates ) and married Thomas Henry Duck ( 1891 - 1958 ) in June 1917, at Easington - was living then at 1 Cowbar Cottages, Staithes.
I understand that the mother of Jane Dix died in the Union Workhouse in Guisborough - not sure what date.

[samantha]

Hi Ian, I started this search about 10 months ago then left it for a while & am now back on the case, so to speak. It does sound like your grandmother Lillian Dix was a sister to my grandmother Molly (Mary) Dix. I think there was also another two sisters Lydia & Polly? Have you been doing your own research into your grandmother. I also had an email from your cousin Gary, so have you both been looking into the family tree? I have done quite a bit of research if you are interested? I havent quite pieced all the pieces together though, but I am working on it sloooowly!
bye for now
Sam

[ian wilkin]

hello sam.
I've been researching the Duck family - my grandfather Thomas Henry Duck married Jane ( Lillian ) Dix - sister to Molly, it seems. I haven't delved much into the Dix connection. I was told by my mother that her granny was called Dix and was lead to believe she had four children and died in the workhouse at Guisborough. There's obviously more to it than that!
I've traced the Duck connection back to about 1800 and I'm busy filling in details at the moment. Was alerted by cousin gary that you were on this site.
Nice to hear from you.
Regards,
Ian