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janeygee
28-12-2008, 5:00 PM
|help|:) HI

Could I ask for a look up of passenger lists and any info found for a missing
relative who I suspect emmigrated to USA 1891 to early 1900's he may have
worked in the 'Printing' industry in 'Boston',,,

John Kirkwood Thomson;(b)25July.1872.Barony,Glas/Scot
(F) John Thomson;(M) Marion Taylor McIntosh;

John K.Thomson had a brother "William Clugston Thomson"(b)1876.Glas/Sct
who emmigrated to 'USA" around '1895/97' to work in the Printing industry
in Boston. 'William' married his scots/fiancee and they had 2 children born
in 'Boston',he later returned to Scot.when his wife/son died,,,,,

I am seeking info on 'John Kirkwood Thomson' who I believe remained in
Boston,USA,,,appreciate all help,thx,,

Kind regards;

Janey;:)

Leander
04-01-2009, 12:34 PM
Hi Janey,

Sorry it has taken so long for someone to get back to you.

Wow, there are a lot of people named John Thomson in US records. It's not as bad as "John Smith" but it is a bit daunting, LOL.

I checked various Massachusetts Vital Records, 1841-1910, and looked at every marriage event and every death event in Massachusetts up to 1910 and didn't find your John T. There were a few John Thomsons in the Boston passenger lists, but none of them quite matched up right.

If John spent time in Boston or elsewhere in Massachusetts it looks as though he didn't leave a record of marriage nor, thankfully, of death. The only thing I didn't do was check the birth record of every Thomson child to see if there might be a child born to a John Thomson, then try to determine if the John T. was the right one, as there's no way to distinguish that on the birth records of children until we find another detail to associate with John.

So I expanded the search and found this:

For New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957, there's a 21-year-old John Thomson who arrived on 9-Jul-1894. The ship was "Furnessia". The port of departure for John was Glasgow. His occupation is listed as "ironmonger" and his destination was listed as New Jersey.

This John most closely matches yours. He was 21 when he left; he wouldn't have been 22 until July 25th. Does the occupation sound right? It's certainly not the printing business that you suspected, but that has been the most promising record so far.

I also noticed that there several John Thomsons listed on the UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960, so those might be worth checking if John returned to the UK (I don't have a subscription to international records).

I'm going through the censuses now, but have not found a John Thomson that matches yours. Yet. :-)

In the 1900 census people were required to provide their month and year of birth. Of the John Thomsons who were born in Scotland, none match up with a July 1872 date of birth.

This will take a while. I need to check Immigration and Naturalization records, too. Will post back in a day or two and let you know what was found.

If you can think of any other information about John that might distinguish him from others, please let us know.

Cheers,

Deb

janeygee
05-01-2009, 12:52 AM
|hug|:)

HI DEB;

Wow,,! you are such a dear doing all that searching for my
relative,I can't thank you enough,, only thing I can suggest
is you especialy look for "John Kirkwood Thomson" I am hoping
he would keep the 'Kirkwood' in his name, I know for sure his
younger brother "William Clugston Thomson" went out USA
around 1895 he was about 19yrs old and worked in the Boston
area printing industry,who's name did he give to immigration on
arrival,they had to show a name/address,maybe we should look
at William C.Thomson;

Another thought Deb is 'John K.Thomson' was living in Girvan,AyrSh
1891 Census,age 18yrs,maybe too young for marriage,,he lives with
granparents,however they are back in Glas/Barony/Par on 1901Census
at 28muslin St, the 'Kirkwood' name is from his granmother so I can't
see him not using it, also his 'father' John Thomson,Joiner,moved to
live & work in Paisley area. Should we give that area a try also,??

John Kirkwood Thomson gives his occupation as 'Commission/Agent'
on 1891 Girvan,Census,,could that be some kind of salesman,???
I don't know about the 'ironmonger' you found Deb,???

I will keep looking anywhere I can too and get back to you if I find
anymore info,,thanks a bunch for all your hard work Deb,it sure is
a big puzzle,,eh

Kind regards;

Janey;:)

Leander
05-01-2009, 12:54 AM
Hello again, Janey.

It's beginning to look like your John Thomson may not have come to this side of the world. Except for the one NY Passenger record (with an unlikely occupation), I cannot find a John Thomson that matches yours.

Checked the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 censuses, naturalization records, passport applications, Massachusetts vital records, Social Security death index, border crossings to the US from Canada, and any US record that was a likely candidate for finding John. But it's all yielding nothing. Is there a possibility that he never came here?

You can see that NY Passenger record at www.ellisisland.org. They ask you to sign up but there is no charge for doing so. You can search for passengers who came to NY and view their records, including the ships' manifests, for free. They primarily rely on donations and selling certificates and other goods to support the project. They don't send very many emails -- maybe a few each year, mostly around Christmas time -- but it's not intrusive. It's also a helpful resource in that most post-1850 immigrants came in through New York, in addition to passengers who were merely visiting.

I wish I could be of more help, but am not having much luck. If there's anything in particular you would like me to look up for you please let me know.

Regards,

Deb

janeygee
06-01-2009, 6:22 PM
|hug|:)

HI DEB;

I think you are right that 'John Kirkwood Thomson' never made it
to your side of the pond, I may have told you I knew some 'Clugston'
rellies' had gone to USA, so I intrude on your good faith to look and
see if you can find them with the faint info I have,,,,

'Beatrice Clugston;(b) 16 Feb,1905,Residence;Illinois;
died April,1979 age 74yrs; Parents,?? Siblings,??

Catherine Buchanan;(b)May1889,Paterson City,Passaic,New Jersey,
(F) ? born Scot;(M) Margaret Clugston,(b) 1857 Barony,Glas/Scot;

John Clugston;(b)14.May.1916.New Jersey; died July,1987; Parents.???

William Clugston;(b) Scot;(mar) Sarah Jane ?? (b) Aug,1857.Scot
Residence 1900;Lockport City,Niagara.New York State;Children;-
William Clugston(b) Scot; Jane Clugston(b)Dec.1881.Scot;Hugh W.
Clugston;(b) ??; Letitia Clugston;(b) ??
These two I think married 1878-79 Barony,Parish.Glas/Scot;

I think that is enough for now DEB you will need your thinking-cap on.!!!
I do so appreciate anything you may find and thank you very much for
letting me take up your time,,,bye for now

Kind regards;
Janey;:)

Leander
09-01-2009, 12:21 AM
Hi Janey,

I haven't been ignoring you; just working long hours. I'm sorry this is taking so long.

Let's start with William Clugston. Actually, William Clugston, Jr., who lived in Lockport, Niagara County, NY.

1920 Census, taken on 2-Jan-1920:

*William Jr., Head of household, Age 35, Born in Scotland, as were his parents. He was a car inspector for the railway. William rents his home.
* Rebecca, Wife, Age 35, Born in New York. Her father was born in Germany. Her mother was Born in New York.
* Harold W., Son, Age 10, Born in New York.
* Florence, Daughter, Age 7, Born in New York.
* Dorothy, Daughter, Age 4, Born in New York.
* Kenneth, Son, Age 1, Born in New York.

======================================

About 20 miles away in Tonawanda, Erie County, New York we find the elder William. This census was taken on 16-Jan-1920. It looks like William, Sr. lives with his daughter and her family. They own their home.

* Bluhm, Fredrick, Head of household, Age 29, Both of his parents were born in Germany. He was a carpenter.
* Bluhm, Letitia, Wife, Age 28,
* Bluhm, Letitia, Daughter, Age 1, born in New York. (Twins?!?!)
* Bluhm, Kathryn, Daughter, Age 1, born in New York.
* Clugston, William, Father-in-law, Widowed, Age 68. He was a machinist. Year of naturalization was 1898.

I'll check more data later. Unfortunately, I have to finish up some work before retiring for the evening.

Cheers!

Deb

Leander
09-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Just a quick note. I checked the 1930 Census. For William Sr.'s family everything is the same, except they are 10 years older and William is retired at age 79. He still lived with the Bluhms/Blooms (his daughter, son-in-law, and 2 granddaughters). The Bluhms did not have any additional children; still just the twins. :-)

JustJean
10-01-2009, 3:43 AM
You haven't mentioned having the MC for John Kirkwood Thomson so am assuming you haven't uncovered it yet. He wed a 19 year old Mary Blair HUME by declaration in Sep 1893 Anderston Glasgow. At that time he was living at 89 Elderslie St. Glasgow and was age 21. So now there are two missing people instead of just one!!!! I've not found any births or deaths of children to them nor have I found a death for them in Scotland. Mary had at least 3 sisters and a brother and I've found all of them marrying in Scotland and evidence they stuck around. Mary's dad was a ships steward and was still alive when her mum died in 1898.

Best wishes
Jean

Leander
10-01-2009, 12:42 PM
Now let's do the 1900 Census for William Clugston. :-)

This census was taken on 14-June-1900 in Lockport, Niagara County, New York.

* William, Head of household, Born March 1851. Married 22 years. Born in Ireland (what?), as were his parents (see note below). Immigrated in 1888. Occupation is machinist.

* Sarah Jane, Wife, Born August 1857. Age 42. She was born in Scotland. Her parents are listed as being born in Ireland. Immigrated in 1888.

* William, Jr., Son, Born November 1885. Age 14. Born in Scotland. Immigrated in 1888.
* Jane, Daughter, Born December 1881. Age 18. Born in Scotland. Immigrated in 1888.
* Hugh, Son, Born January 1888. Age 12. Born in Scotland. Immigrated in 1888.
* Letitia, Daughter, Born February 1891. Age 9. Born in New York.


NOTE: The original person who transcribed this sheet clearly wrote "Ireland", so this is not an issue where the publishing/hosting company mistranslated the data. :-;

The same person transcribed the 1910 census, so I don't know what to make of it.
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1910 Census, enumerated on 27-April-1910.

* William, Head of household. Age 59. Widowed. Machinist. Born in Ireland, as were his parents.

* Letitia, Daughter. Age 19. Single. Born in New York. She works in a shirt factory.

JustJean
10-01-2009, 12:55 PM
This is either an incredible incredible coincidence or I've found your John. Note the date of birth is two days off what you've posted and his occupation is printer. Sadly though it states his place of birth as Ontario and his wife Mary's date of birth is not even close to what I thought her's should be and she's born Ontario too!!! Maybe it's not the same Mary?? His nationality is Scotch while her's is English which doesn't fit either. Does John K. have any missing relation named Jessie that could explain who the boarder is? Her date of birth is given as 15 Jul 1875. What do you all think????

1901 Census of Canada

John Thomson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 28
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1872
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: Printer
Province: Ontario
District: Toronto (West/Ouest) (City/Cité)
District Number: 118
Sub-District: Toronto (West/Ouest) (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 4

Household consists of:
John Thomson age 28 Head
Mary Thomson age 28 Wife
Beatrice Thomson age 3 Dau b. Ontario
Melvin Thomson age 1 Son b. Ontario
Jessie Thomson age 26 Boarder

Leander
11-01-2009, 4:54 AM
1900 Census for the Buchanans, enumerated on 21-June-1900. Havana Township, Mason County, Illinois.

* Robert, Head. Born October 1862. Married 13 years. Born in Scotland, as were his parents. He was a pattern maker. Immigrated in 1889. He and Margaret own their home and it has a mortgage.

* Margaret, Wife. Born December 1858. Born in Scotland, as were her parents. Immigrated in 1889 (perhaps they immigrated after marriage?). She is the mother of 7 children; 6 lived.

* Katie, Daughter. Born September 1888 in Illinois.
* Nettie, Daughter. Born November 1891 in Scotland. Immigrated in 1892.
* Maggie, Daughter. Born July 1893 in New York.
* Annie, Daughter. Born November 1894 in New York.
* David, Son. Born April 1896 in Illinois.
* Mary, Daughter. Born June 1897 in Illinois.

Did they (or at least Margaret) return to Scotland for a visit where Nettie (Janette) was born?
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The 1910 census, however, has a different story. This one is really difficult to read, as the penmanship is pretty bad and the ink is thick and dark.

Margaret's given name is written as "Margret". Robert and Margaret had another child. Some of their children's birthplaces are different now.

They were still living in the same town as the 1900 census. This census was enumerated on 10-May-1910.

* Robert, Head, still a pattern maker. This time we find out that he worked for a wheel works company. Lists year of immigration as 1890 (was 1889 in the 1900 census).
* Margret, Wife. No change. Still listed as immigrating in 1889.
* Kathryn, daughter. Born in New Jersey (different from 1900). Worked as a typesetter for a printing company.
* Janette, daughter. Born in New York (different from 1900). She worked as a clerk. I cannot discern the type of business she worked for.
* Margret, daughter. Born in New York (same).
* Anna, daughter. Born in New York (same).
* David, Son. Born in Illinois (same).
* Mary, Daughter. Born in Illinois (same).
* William, Son. Age 9.

==============================================

the 1920 and 1930 census are a little trickier. I think I found William living with Kathryn/Catherine and her husband (Holligan). I can't find Margaret and Robert, so need more time to look. I'll try again tomorrow.

janeygee
12-01-2009, 2:57 AM
Hi Janey,

Sorry it has taken so long for someone to get back to you.

Wow, there are a lot of people named John Thomson in US records. It's not as bad as "John Smith" but it is a bit daunting, LOL.

I checked various Massachusetts Vital Records, 1841-1910, and looked at every marriage event and every death event in Massachusetts up to 1910 and didn't find your John T. There were a few John Thomsons in the Boston passenger lists, but none of them quite matched up right.

If John spent time in Boston or elsewhere in Massachusetts it looks as though he didn't leave a record of marriage nor, thankfully, of death. The only thing I didn't do was check the birth record of every Thomson child to see if there might be a child born to a John Thomson, then try to determine if the John T. was the right one, as there's no way to distinguish that on the birth records of children until we find another detail to associate with John.

So I expanded the search and found this:

For New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957, there's a 21-year-old John Thomson who arrived on 9-Jul-1894. The ship was "Furnessia". The port of departure for John was Glasgow. His occupation is listed as "ironmonger" and his destination was listed as New Jersey.

This John most closely matches yours. He was 21 when he left; he wouldn't have been 22 until July 25th. Does the occupation sound right? It's certainly not the printing business that you suspected, but that has been the most promising record so far.

I also noticed that there several John Thomsons listed on the UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960, so those might be worth checking if John returned to the UK (I don't have a subscription to international records).

I'm going through the censuses now, but have not found a John Thomson that matches yours. Yet. :-)

In the 1900 census people were required to provide their month and year of birth. Of the John Thomsons who were born in Scotland, none match up with a July 1872 date of birth.

This will take a while. I need to check Immigration and Naturalization records, too. Will post back in a day or two and let you know what was found.

If you can think of any other information about John that might distinguish him from others, please let us know.

Cheers,

Deb

|hug||jumphappy

HI DEB:

Where to begin to thank you for all the wonderful help you have
given me in finding my 'rellies', I'm extremely grateful to you in
giving up your precious time,

Now the above mentioned "John Thomson' does sound like a good
bet as the age is close, and the fact that he went to New Jersey
as I know there were "Clugston" cousins who emmigrated to there
and John's stepmother was a "Clugston,
However I am unsure of the 'ironmonger' occupation, and I do feel
that John would use his full name on emmigration,"John Kirkwood
Thomson" the "Kirkwood" is his granmother's name and in respect
and tradition I'm sure he would use it,,,

For myself I am a 'Thomson' my Mother's maiden name, and I could
never be without it,,,'JustJean'-Moderator' found "John Kirkwood T"
married 'Mary Blair Hume' by declaration in 'Anderston/Glas' 1893
but she could not find any children or any other info listed, I do
have his Father & Stepmother living at the same address on file,,
so I won't rule out it could be him emmigrate to N.J. in 1894,
will just keep on with the search,,,

Will leave this Deb with my 'bunch' of thanks till next time,,ok

Cheers;
Janey;:)|wave|

janeygee
12-01-2009, 4:28 AM
1900 Census for the Buchanans, enumerated on 21-June-1900. Havana Township, Mason County, Illinois.

* Robert, Head. Born October 1862. Married 13 years. Born in Scotland, as were his parents. He was a pattern maker. Immigrated in 1889. He and Margaret own their home and it has a mortgage.

* Margaret, Wife. Born December 1858. Born in Scotland, as were her parents. Immigrated in 1889 (perhaps they immigrated after marriage?). She is the mother of 7 children; 6 lived.

* Katie, Daughter. Born September 1888 in Illinois.
* Nettie, Daughter. Born November 1891 in Scotland. Immigrated in 1892.
* Maggie, Daughter. Born July 1893 in New York.
* Annie, Daughter. Born November 1894 in New York.
* David, Son. Born April 1896 in Illinois.
* Mary, Daughter. Born June 1897 in Illinois.

Did they (or at least Margaret) return to Scotland for a visit where Nettie (Janette) was born?
==============================================
The 1910 census, however, has a different story. This one is really difficult to read, as the penmanship is pretty bad and the ink is thick and dark.

Margaret's given name is written as "Margret". Robert and Margaret had another child. Some of their children's birthplaces are different now.

They were still living in the same town as the 1900 census. This census was enumerated on 10-May-1910.

* Robert, Head, still a pattern maker. This time we find out that he worked for a wheel works company. Lists year of immigration as 1890 (was 1889 in the 1900 census).
* Margret, Wife. No change. Still listed as immigrating in 1889.
* Kathryn, daughter. Born in New Jersey (different from 1900). Worked as a typesetter for a printing company.
* Janette, daughter. Born in New York (different from 1900). She worked as a clerk. I cannot discern the type of business she worked for.
* Margret, daughter. Born in New York (same).
* Anna, daughter. Born in New York (same).
* David, Son. Born in Illinois (same).
* Mary, Daughter. Born in Illinois (same).
* William, Son. Age 9.

==============================================

the 1920 and 1930 census are a little trickier. I think I found William living with Kathryn/Catherine and her husband (Holligan). I can't find Margaret and Robert, so need more time to look. I'll try again tomorrow.

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Wow Deb you did it again,, I tried so many ways to find which
'Buchanan' Margaret Clugston had married even back to where
she was born in 'Dunbartonshire', the luck was in knowing some
"Clugston's' had emm/USA. I am quite sure 'Maggie/Mgt.C.Buchn
came home on a visit when "Janet" was born,, I know 'John Kirk
Thomson's younger brother'Wm Clugston Thomson' came home
from 'Boston' to marry his 'lady' and they returned to USA, he
was in the printing industry and I find it interesting that 'Maggie's
daughter Catherine/Katie would be working as a 'typesetter' for
a printing/co. I think it could be possible 'Wm C.Thom.' worked
in other cities too. and "Maggie/Mgt Clug/Buchanan' was his
Aunt, his Mother's younger sister,,,,

Just to say Deb I have signed up at the Ellis Island site a few
years ago, I did find an aunt & cousin who emmigrated from 'Scot'
in 1930 to New York,that caused excitement.

So I will study all this info you sent Deb and try to match up the
families, I will let you know how it all comes out and where the
family-tree now stands,,,

Bunch of thanks again for all your hard work,it's so appreciated,
forgot to say about the 'John Thom', in Canada, I know of no one
in the family who came here,they all preferred the USA,,,
Bye for now,,,

Cheers;
Janey;|wave||cheers|

janeygee
15-01-2009, 2:26 AM
:):confused:

HI JEAN:

Excuse my getting back to you later,I've been staying at my son's
for past week as he was in a car accident coming home from work.
It was a miraculous-survival for him as his car rolled over 'twice'
his car skidded on icy-highway,flipped over the snowbank into the
field,he landed in piles of snow which was a blessing,so he only
suffered bruising & shock but will be off work a couple of weeks

Now to get back to the family-history,, I have to say what you
found on "John Thomson" (b) Ontario,Can. is very interesting but
I don't think he is my "John Kirkwood Th',I know of none other than
my own 'first-gen' Canadians. I will say the names 'Beatrice & Jessie'
are good clues as most of my 'rellies' have them handed down,so I do
wonder,, is there any way you can check who this 'Ontario-John'
parents are,,,????

I went on the 'LDS-Pilot-Search" and found a "John Kirkwood Thomson"
(b) 1899,Residence/Lanark on 1901 Census; I also found on same page
"John Thomson" (b) 1872;age 29yrs,wife 'Marion' Residence/Lanark'
I think my "John" sometimes leaves out the "Kirkwood" from his name,,

That's as far as I am right now Jean, any ideas-clues you can come up
with are well appreciated,,thx

Kind regards;
Janey;|wave|

janeygee
15-01-2009, 3:03 AM
You haven't mentioned having the MC for John Kirkwood Thomson so am assuming you haven't uncovered it yet. He wed a 19 year old Mary Blair HUME by declaration in Sep 1893 Anderston Glasgow. At that time he was living at 89 Elderslie St. Glasgow and was age 21. So now there are two missing people instead of just one!!!! I've not found any births or deaths of children to them nor have I found a death for them in Scotland. Mary had at least 3 sisters and a brother and I've found all of them marrying in Scotland and evidence they stuck around. Mary's dad was a ships steward and was still alive when her mum died in 1898.

Best wishes
Jean

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HI JEAN:|angel|
I think I mixed up your reply to one from 'Deb", I just hope you
both can read it since we are all on the same 'trail',,,,
It's wonderful that you found "MC" for 'John Kirkwood Thomson'
to "Mary Blair Hume". I have tried to 'nail them down' but I have
not had much luck,,, can you possibly give me the info you found
on "Mary Blair Hume' and her parents & siblings,,???

Where did you find this info,? I have checked 'Anderston/Parish'
with no luck, yet I know John K. lived there with his father/step
mother,, there were quite a few of the "Thomson" brother's &
cousins all lived in that industrial-area. My own granfather was a
"John Thomson", a 'Plumber-Journeyman' he lived & worked in the
'Anderston-area',,, I don't know what "John K Th" worked at and
one more thing sometimes "Mary's are called "Marion" same with
"Margaret is called "Mary' in Scot. everyone took 'nicknames',,!!!

I will leave this with you Jean and very much appreciate your help
thank you,,,

Kind regards;
Janey;|bowdown|

JustJean
15-01-2009, 2:17 PM
Hi there Janey

Sorry to hear about your son's accident but glad he wasn't injuried seriously. Winter traveling is the worst...I hate it!!!

I found the marriage record on SP by searching on the following broad parameters for all of Scotland.....

You searched for: Male Surname: "THOM*SON"; Use Male Soundex: Off; Male Forename: "KIRKWOOD*"; Female Surname: ""; Use Female Soundex: Off; Female Forename: ""; Year From: 1891; Year To: 1915;

And as luck would have it there is only one result returned.....yours!!

Sorry but I don't have any further suggestions on the Candian John Thomson I found. It surely would be worthy of some follow up though. Hopefully someone more local to or knowledgable about that area will come forward to assist you.

Best wishes
Jean

janeygee
16-01-2009, 7:35 PM
|hug|

HI JEAN;

Had to take my son for 'x-rays' and do the run around about
the car getting estimates,,, ugh,!!!!

Will have a look as you say on "SP"with the names ,see what
I can find,also e-mailed a friend who is researching her family
and she suggests I concentrate on wife "Mary Blair Hume" as
it is less common than "Thomson",,,!!!!!

Will give it a shot and let ya know,ok,,,

Kind regards;
Janey;|bowdown|

janeygee
16-01-2009, 10:55 PM
|hug|:)|angel|

HI DEB:

Just wanted to give you a bit info on "Margaret Clugston
Buchanan" nephew who emmigrated USA and ended up
in the 'Printing-Industry' I feel there maybe a connection
as "Maggie's daughter worked as a 'Typesetter',,,
If you could check when he arrived in USA and to whom/
where he went ,,it may narrow down the search,,ok

"William Clugston Thomson" (b) 1876,Barony,Lanark.
(F) John Thomson.(M) Elizabeth Clugston(older sis of Maggie)

Wm.C.Thomson emm/USA 1895 from Glasgow,don't know where
he arrived,,assume N.Y. I do know he came back to 'Glas" to marry
and returned to "Boston" where he was already working in the 'Print/
Industry. He had 'daugh/son' born Boston but wife & son died in
child/birth, Wm & daughter returned to Scotland where he remarried,
opened a 'Printing-Company' still in business today with 'grandson',,,,

Checking on site I am amazed at how many "Clugston's" emmigrated to
USA,, I'm trying to sort out which ones are mine,,!!!!
I'll have to put a call out for help with the marriage of 'Katie/Catherine
to "Holligan" that's not a common name,,,eh

Thank you for all your help and hard work on my research "DEB" I do
appreciate it so much,,,

Kind regards;
Janey;|bowdown|

rutholiver
17-04-2011, 4:41 PM
Hi Janey
John Kirkwood Thomson died in 1893.

janeygee
18-04-2011, 3:04 AM
Hi Janey
John Kirkwood Thomson died in 1893.

HI RUTH;

I was just closing off for the night and decided to check my "B/G" forum and there you were,,,Many thanks for your reply
and just to let you know I did find my John Kirkwood Thomson died Dec/1893 of Eteneric-Fever,,,he was only married 2mths
to Mary Blair Hume and working as a Warehouseman so perhaps he caught something there as those places in the old days
were a hive of rats & disease. What sad news eh, they had no kids ofcourse and living in Rutherglen,I got his death/cert
from Scot/People. Mary went to live with a relative in Arbroath after and met a guy there and married 2yrs later,she came
to live in Maryhill then,I did not follow her up but now I see you are in the city may I call on you sometime to do a look up
for them,,???

Thanks a bunch once again, will keep in touch,

Kind regards;

Janey;