Warwick Convict Records

[kermie62]

Greetings

My convist ancestory Alfred Bayly/Bailey/Bayley whose natural place was Longhope, Gloucestershire was convicted in Warwick of stealing a horse or house (bad indent) in about 1849. Can anyone tell me where I might find the details of his trial or the records of where he was held

thankyou

[Kerrywood]

According to the Convict Transportation Registers (HO 11/12), an Alfred BAYLEY was convicted at Warwickshire Quarter Sessions on 20 Oct 1840, sentenced to 10 years transportation, and sailed on the "Westmoreland" on 15 May 1841. Is this too early for your man? The records, if you want them, should be at Warwickshire Record Office (http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/countyrecordoffice).

Kerrywood

[kermie62]

thanks for the reply

Yes that is my ancestor, i was thinking of another when I posted, christmas night is the wrong time to post or think straight. can I ask where you gained access to that convict register, my sources for convict records are a bit scatty.

[Kerrywood]

The HO 11 series of convict transportation registers is accessible via Ancestry (index and images). The original registers are at the National Archives, Kew. I believe there are films available in Australia, either through AJCP or LDS, but the register entry contains only those details given above.

Kerrywood

[barrie wise]

There is plenty of detail regarding Alfred Bayley 1841 "Westmoreland" in the online convict records held at the Tasmanian Archives.
Go to the Tasmanian Archives site, then Name Index, then Tasmanian Convicts, search for Alfred Bayley 1841 "Westmoreland", then CON33/1/11, and you will find him on page 31. Also click on the other links for more records.

Barrie.

[kermie62]

I went through the records office site however ther is this foot note


"The calendars of Quarter Sessions prisoners are practically complete from 1800 to 1900, but the index does not at present cover the years 1836 to 1846 (with the exception of Epiphany 1836), and 1879 to 1884 (with the exception of Epiphany 1879 and Midsummer 1883)."

Typically it doesnt cover the years I want and doesnt give the information as towether the material exists or not or simply hasnt been put there yet. I have sent away an email asking if the material is available and should hear back in the new year given that they probably wont be open this period.

Thanks for the signpost

[kermie62]

Thanks for the info

I ahd been to the tasmanian archives site before but that was over a year ago and they have certaqinly have upgraded it. I actually ahd to travel to Tasmanina to get some of these records that are now on line for anotehr ancestor. Shows we have to keep checking our past sources/

[Kerrywood]

"The calendars of Quarter Sessions prisoners are practically complete from 1800 to 1900, but the index does not at present cover the years 1836 to 1846 (with the exception of Epiphany 1836) ..."

Typically it doesnt cover the years I want and doesnt give the information as towether the material exists or not or simply hasnt been put there yet. I have sent away an email

You're unlikely to find anything of much use in the Calendars (even less in the index to the Calendars), since you already know the "who, what and when". What you need is the Sessions Rolls, if they survive.

Kerrywood

[kermie62]

thanks again

What I am hoping to find is almost a transcript of the court case, all I know is from the indent that states "I was employed to sell the horse by nathian woodley who was .... for a horse and sentenced to 10 years. He sailed before me".

Would I be able to find more than this from the court papers?.

[Kerrywood]

It's impossible to say. It depends entirely on what the court chose to preserve, and what has actually survived for those particular sessions at that date. There could be masses of material (indictments, evidence, witnesses' statements, etc.), or there could be nothing. The only way to find out is to ask the record office.

Kerrywood

[salcat]

if Warwick record office has what you need, and you need someone to go and look at it, let me know - it's on my doorstep and I have some free time in the new year!

Hope everyone has had a wonderful Christmas

Sally

[kermie62]

thanks Salcat I will definately take U up on that and contact you directly. I am also interested in hearing what Warwick is like, the feel of the place. MY ancestor ortingally came from Longhope/Michendean and was a shoe maker and ended up in Tasmania in Hobart.

[kermie62]

and I should also so, Seasons Greetings to you all and may your challenges be hard enough to give you the thrill of the chance but resolveabe without ulcers