Peter Bartle death

[SBSFamilyhistory]

How would I go about finding the death of a Peter Bartle born 1827 in France. He moved to Wales when he was a small child, Married Maria Brown and went to live in America with his children. I have been led to believe that he went to New Zeland and that is where he died.

hope somebody can help


Sue

[SBSFamilyhistory]

nudge

[arthurk]

I think there are a number of online indexes to NZ newspapers and/or BMD records, but it's not an area I've looked into myself. No doubt some of our Kiwi members will be able to assist when they wake up, but meanwhile you might find something on Cyndi's List (http://www.cyndislist.com/).

Arthur

[ChristineR]

I'm awake, but the wrong country :) it is only around 3:00 PM here, so it might be a while before anyone who is a working person to get onto the computer.

Do you have an approximate date of death for Peter?
Or at least when he was last seen in America.

[SBSFamilyhistory]

Hi Peter was still in the UK in 1871.. by the next census he had left. as to when he left America or died in NZ sorry I do not know. Peter and Maria had 6 children.names and year of birth approx Emma E (1853) Julia Ann (1868) Laura (1865) Maria junior (1860) Mary (1862) Thomas (1855)

[SBSFamilyhistory]

Ihave been told he invented a steam pressure valve and a type of wire fencing. When or where this took place I am not sure..

Sue

PS where has the edit facility gone.

[Chisel]

Yawwwnnnnnn..................................... O hello my ears were burning you woke me up.:D
No death search facility available. Somebody will have to troll the fisches.

Very busy at work at the moment however if nobody else offers I'll see what I can do in the next few weeks.
Can you summarise all the facts eg. born date likely death age (do you know how old his father was?) Best guess when he can to our shores.
Anything else that might narrow the time frame.................|snore|

[ChristineR]

Peter was still in the UK in 1871.. by the next census he had left.

I think that it would be a good idea to check the USA census years - to get a time frame of when he left America.

[Chisel]

Try searching this site http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz Please let use know if you find him.|wave|

[SBSFamilyhistory]

Sorry nothing relating to Peter.

Sue

[DebbieAnn]

How would I go about finding the death of a Peter Bartle born 1827 in France. He moved to Wales when he was a small child, Married Maria Brown and went to live in America with his children. I have been led to believe that he went to New Zeland and that is where he died.

hope somebody can help


Sue
Well, I found the marriage in Abergavenny, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire in Dec qtr 1852 (vol 11a pg 126)...

[DebbieAnn]

Hi Peter was still in the UK in 1871.. by the next census he had left. as to when he left America or died in NZ sorry I do not know. Peter and Maria had 6 children.names and year of birth approx Emma E (1853) Julia Ann (1868) Laura (1865) Maria junior (1860) Mary (1862) Thomas (1855)
I found an immigration record for Marie, Emma, and Thomas Bartle. They traveled from Wales to Pennsylvania on the "Webster" out of Liverpool arriving in New York on 3 Jun 1857. I can only assume she went to a relative and may have returned later to Wales before returning after the 1871 census...

However, if she went to Pennsylvania in 1857, it may be where they went later, as well. At least it's a place to start...

[DebbieAnn]

More information:

During the trip in 1857, she appears to be traveling with James Price, a miner, and his wife Ann, as well as another miner named George Heard. All are listed as going from Wales to Pennsylvania and are listed in numerical sequence in the passenger list. Marie is 27, Emma is 5, and Thomas is 3...

[SBSFamilyhistory]

thanks that appears to be Peter's wife and children. Umm I wonder where he was. I will have to try and see if I can find records for their return to the US after 1871. fingers crossed.

[SBSFamilyhistory]

I have found a possible listing for Peter on Castle Garden. Does anyone know how I could gain more information?


Peter Bartle
Engineer
29
2 July 1856
Albert Gallatin

as Peter was born in 1827 this could be him.

thanks in anticipation

Sue

[Procat]

Hi Sue,

Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: England
Ship Name: Albert Gallatin

Peter Bartle, Age 29, Male, Engineer, Country to which severally belong England, Country in which they intend to inhabit United States of America, Upper Deck

[SBSFamilyhistory]

thanks Procat