Mary Walsh, Emmigrant to Australia

[crisGloss]

Hi

Mary Walsh [Pioneer Index] came on a "Bride Ship", the Burlington (8 Apr 1863; aged 34) from England to Perth / Fremantle. Her father John Walsh was a farmer --- Mary said her parents emmigrated to Western Australia too.

Her death record says she was born in 1828.: viz: Karrakatta record: 12/06/1926 PERTH age 98

Where would I go for more information from shipping records? Being a Bride Ship she would have been an assisted emmigrant... The National Archives, UK [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/rdleaflet.asp?sLeafletURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationa larchives.gov.uk%2Fcatalogue%2Fleaflets%2Fri2163.h tm&lBack=-1#1] say :
"Generally speaking, emigration passenger lists between 1776-1889 have not survived."

Chris

[ChristineR]

Shipping records for Victoria are held at our Public records office - I would imagine the same would be done for your Western Australian records - you live in Perth too, where they would be located.

Ages on the death certificate can be wrong. If the lass came out to be married, she may have fibbed about her age to qualify for passage- but perhaps being female was enough. :)

The names sound Irish.

Do you have her death certificate - being after 1896, it should record her birthplace and parent's names - but only as good as the knowledge of the informant.

[crisGloss]

Cool

I am going to the cemetery tomorrow..

Thanks
Chris

[crisGloss]

Hi

Yesterday I found a Mary Walsh [1851 census online] born in Kilmurray, County Cork, Ireland, with father "John, a farmer", as she said in the passenger record; mother Bridget; and 8 siblings :D.

Today cemetery, however, reported Instructions for Burial which revealed the family said she was born in Dublin, Ireland :confused:, which may not have been accurate of course.

According to the burial record she probably left from Dublin.

Chris

[HelenVSmith]

Hi

The West Australian Archives should have a record of passenger list which usually gives an indication of where the ship picked up passengers.

Also check out teh newsdpaper of the time as often you have a description of the voyage.

Mary's marriage certificate should give you some info about wwhere she was born.

Also 98 is a decent age and it is worth looking at the newspapers to see if tehy have done a writeup either on her death or prior. (My GGgrandfather lived to 101 and had a write-up done in the Courier mail when he was 90 and it had a picture!)

Regards
Helen

[crisGloss]

Hi Helen

Great suggestions. Thank you...sometimes I am a bit reluctant to search local data because I am trawling over the work of others before me... but |jedi| I am refreshed.

regards
Chris

[ChristineR]

sometimes I am a bit reluctant to search local data because I am trawling over the work of others before me.

It seems that the work of the 'others' has not including perusal of the passenger list in Perth, checking the other sources mentioned, checking burial records or the purchase of a death certificate. :D

The information that you quoted about lack of survival of emigration records relates to records in the UK. You are looking for immigration records in Perth :)

Some of my family arrived on the Burlington, getting off at Adelaide - they were not 'brides' but were assisted immigrants.

[crisGloss]

Hi

The Glossop line seems to be distinguished by giving brief information for records!

[1] Passenger List: I will check this out at Battye Library, Perth.
re "Bride Ships": The Australind Family History Library, Bunbury, Western Australia showed me a book " The Bride Ships", in which the Burlington was listed. I think the justification was that they were part of a government scheme to increase the number marriageable females in the colony, due to the disproportionate number of males.... due to convicts.

[2] The death certificate for Mary Walsh simply says she was born in Dublin, Ireland. Apparently this can also mean Dublin County.

[3] The death certificate for her husband James Joseph Glossop does not mention his birthplace, and the age at death line is corrupted! According to the family he was buried at the old East Perth cemetery, since redeveloped. Graves here were relocated to the Karrakatta General Cemetery, but he is not registered there. They lost him.|banghead|

[4] Definitely the nespapers are a good idea!

Chris