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David Annis
07-10-2008, 5:10 PM
I have a nice new computer, all the bells and whistles
and VISTA.
I am now finding out the draw backs to VISTA.
A number of programmes wont work.
Has anyone found how to get these working on VISTA.

FAMILYSEARCH. 1881 BRITISH CENSUS AND NATIONAL INDEX.

" " " BRITISH ISLES VITAL RECORDS.

NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX. 1st edition.

They all worked ok on XP

ps. If you have Bill Gates telephone number can you pass it on.

Cheers
Dave

bwarnerok
07-10-2008, 5:28 PM
Generally just about anything will work if you right click on properties .. run as administrator, and then under compatibility, tell it to emulate XP.

There were some viewers I could not get to work and had to uninstall them and then reinstall. It is better than it was a year ago as many tweaks have been made. Be sure and get all the service packs available as that will help you.

Betsy

somanyrellies
07-10-2008, 5:44 PM
XP was/is a perfectly good Operating System.

I believe that one of the reasons that Microsoft wanted to superceed it was to insert a spy. Every time someone downloads music Vista makes a note. This is to enable Microsoft to go to the 'Music Industry' and make a future claim for royalties.

Allegedly|scold|

ET in the USA
07-10-2008, 6:28 PM
Lost his phone Number. Will his address do ?

Address
1835 73RD AV NE
Zipcode
98039
Taxpayer
GATES WILLIAM H III


Property name GATES RESIDENCE
Property type R - RESIDENTIAL
Present use Single Family(Res Use/Zone)
Lot area 224,334 sq. ft. (5.15 acres)



APPRAISED VALUE

$25,132,000 (land)
+ $124,900,000 (improvements)
[B]$150,032,000 (total)

Building 1 of 2
Year built 1994
Year renovated 0
Stories 3

Total living sq. ft. 48,160
1st floor sq. ft. 22,860
Half floor sq. ft. 8,800
2nd floor sq. ft. 9,870
Upper floor sq. ft. 6,630


Bedrooms 7
Baths (SINK, TOILET, TUB/SHOWER OR BOTH) 9
1/2 baths (SINK & TOILET) 6
3/4 baths (SINK, TOILET & SHOWER) 9
Single story fireplace 0
Multi-story fireplace 4

Attached garage sq. ft. 1,240
Open porch sq. ft. 320

*****************

Building 2 of 2
Year built 1992
Year renovated 0
Stories 1
Building grade 13 - Mansion
Condition Average

Total living sq. ft. 1,890
1st floor sq. ft. 1,890
Bedrooms 1
Baths 1
1/2 baths 0
3/4 baths 0
Single story fireplace 1

Retlaw
07-10-2008, 7:42 PM
I have heard of people returning to point of sale, having vista removed, and getting a refund, they then install Linux, which is free, and its supposed to work like winxp, but not as fragile.

Semloh Retlaw

Guy Etchells
07-10-2008, 7:53 PM
Why bother with Vista it is going to be replaced around the end of next year with a new OS codenamed Vienna or Windows 7.
Cheers
Guy

MarkJ
07-10-2008, 9:06 PM
I have heard of people returning to point of sale, having vista removed, and getting a refund, they then install Linux, which is free, and its supposed to work like winxp, but not as fragile.

Semloh Retlaw

Linux, which I run, does not work like XP.
For surfing the web, emails etc, then Linux or any other Operating System (even Vista!) should work fine. The problem starts when people want to run Windows specific programs - then you start to find that you may or may not be able to find a Linux or Mac or whatever version, or you may not. Then a bit more knowledge is needed about how to run the Windows program under an "emulator" such as Wine or whatever the Mac one is called (Parallels?).
Even with Wine, Linuxd will not run all Windows programs - it runs most, but not all. Of course, there are Linux programs which work in similar ways to many Windows programs - the Gimp as a replacement for Photoshop for example. Some are already familiar to Windows users - Firefox and OpenOffice for example.

Vista is either loved or loathed by all those I have spoken with. On powerful machines, with plenty of memory (at least 2Gb and preferably a lot more), it runs fairly well from what I have seen. On lower spec machines (less than 2GB ram), it runs like a slug crawling through a tin of molasses.
Betsy suggests - as I would - using the "compatability mode" option.
Those who recall XP being introduced will remember that the same criticisms were made about XP compared to Win98 and 2000. Slow, unable to run program X and Y.... again, there was a compatability mode to run the older programs - a nuisance, but at least nearly everything could be made to run (and if you really had to run some ancient program or other, there were (and still are) a wide range of free emulators for that purpose.
THe first release of XP WAS terrible. Unstable, insecure and very buggy. But the release of Service Pack 1 and later SP2 improved it a lot. Vista will probably improve a little with updates - but I suspect Microsoft are simply keeping it going until they can release their next OS.

I would agree with Guy - hang on if you can until the next Windows version is released and see what that is like. Microsoft always do this - release a half complete job to tide people over and fill their coffers whilst working on the next release. Remember Windows ME? That was - in my opinion as a computer technician and "geek" - the worst abomination to ever appear on a hard drive. It was a bodge to tide time until XP was released and contained what seemed to be all the bad things about both Win98 and early XP releases all bundled into one huge lash up.

I would love everyone to swap over to the Linux camp - free operating system, free software, secure, fast and you have full control over everything to do with the system. But, I am realistic and I know that most people will continue to buy whatever Microsoft turn out - regardless of price or any other consideration. Although not hard to learn, Linux IS different to Windows. My system looks similar to Windows I suppose (I use a desktop called KDE), with a "start" button and a menu which appears when I click that with various programs available from there. For basic use - web browsing, mail etc - then it is faster, familiar (if you use Firefox for example on your Windows system) and a lot more secure. But, as I mentioned earlier, it will not be suitable for all. It is easy to try it out - most of the large Linux distributions (e.g Mandriva, Ubuntu etc) release the system as a "live" cd. That means that you can download the image, burn it to a cd and then pop that into your drive and reboot. As long as you have the ability to boot from cd (it is in the BIOS settings if you need to change it), you will be presented with a live version of the Linux system. All your Windows stuff is safe - but you can play around and see how Linux works for a while if you want. Then, when you are done, simply shutdown the Linux system and remove the cd when it pops out. Then you can boot back into Windows :)

Mark

bwarnerok
08-10-2008, 12:15 AM
Why bother with Vista it is going to be replaced around the end of next year with a new OS codenamed Vienna or Windows 7.
Cheers
Guy


I can appreciate those who puff out their chests and say, "I'm happy with what I have and I'm not changing". I think our ancestors felt that way about the first computers, as well as telephones, television, automobiles, railroads and even electricity.

C'mon, when was it when you finally quit stomping your feet saying, "I'm keeping Windows 95 forever."

I finally had to move up to Mac OSX when the web browsers became obsolete and did not recognize the fancier versions of Java, Flash, etc.

It's called change and the minute you start to get comfy.. it will change again.

Betsy

michaelpipe
08-10-2008, 1:03 AM
I I think our ancestors felt that way about the first computers, ............

It's called change and the minute you start to get comfy.. it will change again.

Betsy

Don't know about our ancestors!! Many of us on this forum are the generation responsible for inventing computers:D:D

Second, I agree with Guy - why change for the sake of change? It is a total waste of money and resources for no positive outcome. Unfortunately the younger generations appear to assume that all change is good because one 'keeps ahead' of one's neighbour.|soapbox|

MartinM
08-10-2008, 4:50 AM
I recently changed my laptop, and it came with Vista.

Surprisingly I am delighted with it. Everything works very well, it seems much more secure, it runs more quickly and it is more stable than xp ever was.

I can understand why some people worry about change, but in this case I wish I'd done it sooner.

Regards
Martin

Guy Etchells
08-10-2008, 6:32 AM
People worry about change as invariably the change of operating system demands a change of peripherals and often programs as well.
Many programs that run quite happily under Windows XP and before refuse to run under Vista or require to be run in "legacy" mode.
Some find peripherals such as the 15,000 scanner I use at work does not run under Vista, similarly with many other scanners and printers.
Cheers
Guy

mfwebb
08-10-2008, 8:13 AM
. . .

C'mon, when was it when you finally quit stomping your feet saying, "I'm keeping Windows 95 forever."



. . . Betsy

I was happy with Windows 95 and only changed to XP 2 years ago because the payroll software I use for our business stopped supporting W95 and the new version they introduced would not run in W95. This "forced" us into upgrading our 2 computers which came with XP pre-installed.

Had it not been for that, I would probably still be using Windows 95.

I'll change from XP only when I have to -- probably when the payroll software stops supporting Windows XP :)

Lesley Robertson
08-10-2008, 8:47 AM
I haven't taken my new one out of the box yet as it has Vista and I have yet to hear anything good about vista. Why can't one access the usual sites on it? What do I need to do to ensure I can transfer my stuff from here onto the new one. If I put all the stuff onto Cd's will they then work just as well on the new laptop? Or would I be better returning it to the shop and getting a windows xp one? M

There were the same complaints when XP came in, because of the removal of DOS. Most people will get used to it - the main difficulties come with specialised equipment for which there's no work-around.

My new personal one came with Vista installed,my office one still has XP. Once I'd got the software in and running (which DID take most of a weekend and I had to download a couple of patches - easy to find, just google on the name of your programme and Vista) I'm not really noticing any difference in the way I use it. Indeed, there's features of Vista I like.

I've a couple of old games I can't run, but they weren't over-happy on XP either.

You should back everything up to CD before you do anything major. Then give yourself lots of time and quietly install your software. If anything doesn't run, try the "run as XP" work around. If that doesn't work, check for patches. Vista's been out long enough that difficulties are known and most manufacturers have patches on their websites. If all else fails, contact the customer support people for the siftware that won't work.

Above all, don't panic!
Lesley

Marie C..
08-10-2008, 10:36 AM
Thanks Martin and Lesley. More reassured now as it was a gift and feel can't really complain about it. Shall take your advice and go slowly with it.
Marie

Lesley Robertson
08-10-2008, 11:56 AM
Thanks Martin and Lesley. More reassured now as it was a gift and feel can't really complain about it. Shall take your advice and go slowly with it.
Marie


And as I said, if you're sure there's a problem, check with the software providers. Vista's not very new now, so they should be aware of any problems, and have a way to fix them.

Good luck,
Lesley

Peter_uk_can
08-10-2008, 4:15 PM
Now don't get me wrong, I am all for improvement, development and new technology.

In fact I about to go try a new chisel. it is said to maintain a sharp edge for longer, which hopefully means I can create my stone tablets much quicker than before.

Someome sent me a large feather the other day, they said that they produced writing much quicker, but I found that the end wore down before I had even made a scratch on the stone. Perhaps I will have to wait for an updated version.

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somanyrellies
08-10-2008, 4:23 PM
It seems like a case of 'Built-in obsolescence' to me.

Perhaps Microsoft get a cut from peripheral manufacturers? Or is it that they must change something lest they stagnate?

Either way, keeping abreast is an expensive business.:o

v.wells
08-10-2008, 5:06 PM
I used windows 95 for 10 yrs until my computer ran so slow it stopped, so I got a new pc with XP. I got used to it until I had some problems in the spring and after 6 wks without anything bought a new pc with Vista. My old XP is back on one side networked with the Vista. I am now a Vista convert although my XP does some different things that I like. This allows me to have lots of free space plus I have an external hard drive. Some programs needed patches such as FTM. I think it all depends on what you want to do with your pc. If you are into creating videos, web camming, and whopping giants of documents, ect, I think then it gets more complicated. Vista automatically defrags itself and I have Alpha Shield (Panda) that I have been using for years and actually behaves better on Vista than XP. There are things on Vista that I don't understand so therefore I don't need to know about what I don't use.

busyglen
08-10-2008, 6:34 PM
I'm one of the school that doesn't like change, and don't mind admitting it. I started with Windows 95, then upgraded to W98 and when I needed a new PC, went on to XP. I've had it for about 3 years, and although I was nervous of the change, I have been quite happy as it seems to do most things that I want.

I know that the time will come when I need to change again, but as long as I can keep going as I am, I am not prepared to pay out for something newer, just for the sake of it. I guess it's years of penny pinching that comes to the fore even if I could afford a new one. ;)

Glenys