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05-10-2008, 6:17 PM
James Winepress and his wife Jane travelled to New Zealand in 1847 with their children Matthew, John, Ellen and Anne. They had a daughter Mary born in NZ. The family settled in Auckland. James was a Fencible.
Is their any census information or family details that I could look up on line please.
06-10-2008, 3:22 AM
Sorry, no census information. NZ does not keep any census info after the Stats Dept has finished with it. Info in the Fencibles can be fouund. I'll have a poke about and see what I can find.
06-10-2008, 3:53 AM
Did a quick google and found this. You may already have this.
Ship: Sir Robert Sale
Left Cork 4th July arrived Auck 11th Oct 1847
Winepress James Mountmelick Queens Private 19th Reg.
Wife Jane and three kids.
Will see what else I can find.
06-10-2008, 4:04 AM
Quick look see in Family Search found this--
Mary Jane Winepress b. 09 March 1850
Mum and dad James Winepress and Jane Reedy
Jane must have died with this brith or soon after --
James Winepress m Mary Moorfoot
14th April 1868 Auckland NZ
Mary Moorfoot b. 03 May 1811 Lairgate Indept, Beverley, Kingston upon Hull Yorkshire.
d. 26 Fed 1884
Don't know if any of this is any help but there you go....
06-10-2008, 8:03 AM
Thanks for that information I had found that on the net I was hoping to find out what happened to the family once they arrived in NZ.
06-10-2008, 7:34 PM
It is difficult to get information without going to the archives in Wellington or in your case Auckland. However next year (2009) stuff from the archives is going to come on line that might make things a lot easier. The is a lot of stuff on the Fencibles that can be just googled.
I'll do some rooting around in the BMDs next time I'm at the Library (Fri) and see what I can find there.
Do you have any dates that maybe useful?
07-10-2008, 9:20 PM
Thank you for offering to look and see if you can find anything on my family it is much appreciated. Here is a list of dates that I have
James Winepress ( 1795) born Ireland
Jane Winepress ( wife)
Matthew Winepress ( 1824) born Ireland
John C Winepress (1835) born Ireland
Ellen (1839) born Ireland
Anne (1844) born Ireland
Mary Jane ( 1850) born Howick
I think James married again in NZ to a Mary Colemoss
08-10-2008, 12:20 AM
Great that gives me some dates to work with.
Will get back to you when I have something or not as the case maybe.
08-10-2008, 3:13 AM
Hi found these marriages in the NZ registration
NEW ZEALAND MARRIAGES
1861 WINEPRESS, Anne FINLAY, John #0199
1862 WINEPRESS, Catherine PORTER, Henry #0260
1868 WINEPRESS, James MOSS, Mary #0260
1859 WINEPRESS, John DONNELLY, Mary Ann #0045
1871 WINEPRESS, Margaret OWENS, Richard #0987
1869 WINEPRESS, Mary Jane SHERRY, John #0250
1884 WINEPRESS, Mary Jane HOGAN, David William #1047
1855 WINEPRESS, Mathew GALLERY, Catherine #0003
The Mary Jane may or may not be the same person, as there are only 14 years separate the two marriages so very unlikely to be a mother/daughter.
08-10-2008, 10:57 AM
Thanks Johnzee, it looks like Mary Jane married twice perhaps the 1st husband died or they divorced.
14-10-2008, 8:48 AM
Hi, there is a probate record for a James Winepress, Howick (Auckland) 1893, on Archway. If you go to www.archway.archives.govt.nz and do a simple search, just type in the surname and you'll get two Winepress matches, one of them being James Winepress. You can e-mail the archives and give them your credit card number to obtain the record. It is $20NZ (about 7 pounds) to obtain the file. They are very helpful to deal with. When you e-mail them at the Auckland office, ask them to check if they have any other records for your Winepress family (it's an unusual name), as not all the catalogue is online yet.
It may also pay to check Papers Past, http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast, as there are 66 matches for 'Winepress'. I had a quick look and there looks like some interesting stories for this family.
It's interesting that there are NO listings in the telephone directory for this surname! www.whitepages.co.nz
All the best!
15-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Thank you so much for that information, I have had a quick look and it looks very interesting. I will have another look later when I have been to work.
27-05-2009, 11:53 PM
Mr Winepress married a widow (Mary Moorfoot) of a fencible soldier named James Colemoss. In 1868 as far as I can see.
From my enquiries Mary appears to have been my father's mother's mother's mother.
31-05-2009, 3:14 AM
09 Mar 1850 Winepress Mary Jane James and Jane Ready Fencible Howick
05 Oct 1862 Winepress John Bap. John and Mary Ann Donnelly
21 Aug 1867 Winepress Arthur James Bap. John and Mary Donnelly
14 Sep 1856 Winepress Matthew Joseph Matthew and Catherine Galley
1884/845 Mary Jane Winepress David William Hogan Order Product
1861/1607 Anne Winepress Order Product
1862/2011 Catherine Winepress Order Product
1869/3854 Mary Jane Winepress Order Product
1871/3735 Margaret Winepress Order Product
22-06-2009, 4:14 PM
I see that the surname Winepress doesn't appear to be a very common name here in New Zealand.
Thought I might offer the following info for you, as perhaps you will fiind these other people also tie up with your family tree.
I have taken this information from this website: http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/ so if there are any errors I am sorry.
You can purchase these Birth, Death and Marriage records for these people if you wish at the above website I have quoted.
Unfortunately currently in New Zealand you can only search for people whose birth occurred at least 100 years ago or stillbirth if registered at least 50 years ago; marriages and eventually civil unions that occurred 80 years ago and deaths that occurred at least 50 years ago or the deceased's date of birth was at least 80 years ago. So the below information I have quoted is from me looking up from 01 January 1840 to current (which only displays records as per above), so you should try checking details further down the track perhaps as you may find other people added to this website.
Also F.Y.I. the registration number (which I have quoted for you for the below records) is unique to a registration within each life event type (i.e. birth, death, marriage) and is different to the folio number you may be familiar with on microfiche indexes available in libraries etc.
*Registration Number: 1850/869 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name(s): Mary Jane - Mother's Given Name(s): Auckland - Father's Given Name(s): Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1856/1794 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name(s): Matthew Joseph - Mother's Given Name(s): Auc - Father's Given Name(s): Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1860/3165 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name(s): Mary Ann Jane - Mother's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Father's Given Name(s): Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1860/3166 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name(s): Thomas - Mother's Given Name(s): Auck - Father's Given Name(s): Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1865/7770 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name(s): Ellen Elizabeth - Mother's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Father's Given Name(s): Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1867/9323 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name(s): James - Mother's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Father's Given Name(s): Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1848/1648 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name: Ellen - Date of Birth/Age at Death: NR
*Registration Number: 1861/630 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name: Matthew - Date of Birth/Age at Death: NR
*Registration Number: 1863/1120 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name: Matthew - Date of Birth/Age at Death: NR
*Registration Number: 1867/2650 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name: Samuel - Date of Birth/Age at Death: NR
*Registration Number: 1884/3744 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name: Mary - Date of Birth/Age at Death: 75 Years
*Registration Number: 1893/1958 - Surname: Winepress - Given Name: James - Date of Birth/Age at Death: 92 Years
*Registration Number: 1861/1607 - Bride's Given Name(s): Anne - Bride's Surname: Winepress - Groom's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Groom's Surname: Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1862/2011 - Bride's Given Name(s): Catherine - Bride's Surname: Winepress - Groom's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Groom's Surname: Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1869/3854 - Bride's Given Name(s): Mary Jane - Bride's Surname: Winepress - Groom's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Groom's Surname: Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1871/3735 - Bride's Given Name(s): Margaret - Bride's Surname: Winepress - Groom's Given Name(s): Not Listed - Groom's Surname: Not Listed
*Registration Number: 1884/845 - Bride's Given Name(s): Mary Jane - Bride's Surname: Winepress - Groom's Given Name(s): David William - Groom's Surname: Hogan
When I tried to enter Winepress as the Groom's surname, nothing shows up on this website I am afraid.
I also looked up the name Mary Jane Hogan on this website in the Death Section and only got one hit (but doesn't appear to be the same person - perhaps though this might be there daughter???):
*Registration Number: 1936/22939 - Surname: Hogan - Given Name: Mary Jane - Date of Birth/Age at Death: 45 Years
Good Luck with the research.
At Paperspast http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast several entries for James and John Winepress
01-08-2009, 9:06 PM
Thank you for finding that information, it will make interesting reading
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