Jacobs - Artillery Passage London

[pepefe21]

Hi, I have Hyman Jacobs on the 1861 Census living at 10 Hutchinson Ave St age 27 (born Poland), with his wife Harriet age 28 (born Poland) & daughter Rebecca age 10m born St Botolph, Aldgate.
Next door at no 9 is Isaac Jacobs age 30 tailor (born Poland) wife Esther age 26 (born Poland) daughter Elizabeth age 6 born St Boltolph, son Jacob age 4 born St Boltolph, Simon 18m born St Boltolph Aldgate, and Hannah Jacobs servant unmarried age 20 (born Poland).

I have a Philip Jacobs in 1819 Post office Directory working as a glass merchant at 14 Artillery Passage.

On the July 2nd 1883 John son of Hyman gets married to Rebekkah Winslow she gives her address as 14 Artillery Passage.
The mystery deepens, Hymans' grandaughter Florence Henrietta Jacobs daughter of John & Rebekkah (aka Rebecca)born 17th January 1893 gives her mother as Olivia Jacobs and father John Jacobs. On another daughter's birth certificate the mother is named as Lydia and on another Rebecca & Jacob Jacobs. I am terribly confused and dont know which way to go, can somebody help? Regards Pauline |help|

[Marie C..]

Well here are my thoughts on this.
Do you mean Phip was born in 1819? or do you mean that in 1819 he was a glass maker living in Artillery passage?
Is he on the same census 1861 as the others. If so what age is he.
It seems to me that two or three brothers have come to London with their wives and the children have been born here.
Was John son of Hyman born in Poland? And what relationship to Isaac is Hannah on the 1861 census. Is she Isaac's younger sister?
Rebecca nee Winslow may have been lodging with Philip Jacobs before the marriage. Where was Rebecca born and who were her parents. Have you got Rebecca Wilmslow on the 1881 census?
Have you Florence's birth cert. Who are her parents on that. Olivia may have been a former wife of John who may have died at Florenec's birth. Lydia sounds like Olivia? Have you found a marriage for John Jacobs to either Olivia or lydia before the marriage to Rebecca Winslow?
Or it is possible that Jacob son of Isaac and Rebecca daughter of Hyman (cousins)married.
There are always answers to everything... including family intertwining and mistranscriptions or changes of name. Polish Jews did change their names on occasions.
M

[Mutley]

There is another thread here (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?p=193783)where pepefe21 is being given information about the Jacobs family.

14 Artillery Passage, Whitechapel is now an Indian grocers shop (http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/directory/1168/19557.php)

There is some history here.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50173

[pepefe21]

1861 Census: 10 Hutchinson Ave, St Botolph
Hyman Jacobs Head age 27 Glazier Born Poland
Harriett Jacobs wife age 28 born Poland
Rebecca Jacobs dau 10 months Born Aldgate St Botolph

No 9 Hutchinson Ave St Botolph
Isaac Jacobs head married age 30 tailor born Poland
Esther Jacobs wife married age 26 born Poland
Elizabeth Jacobs dau age 6 born St Botolph
Jacob Jacobs son age 4 scholar born St Botolph
Simon Jacobs 18m born St Botolph
Hannah Jacobs serv unm age 20 domestic Servant born Poland (Sister to Isaac & Hyman?)

Marriage July 2nd 1883 of John Jacobs (son of Hyman) and Rebecca (aka Rebekah).
John Jacobs son of Hyman & Harriett Jacobs of 2 Raymore Place, Heneage Street London, Father Hyman occupation no given.
Rebecca Winslow dau of William & Elizabeth Winslow, of 14 Artillery Passage, London.

This is all the information I have other than Hyman & Isaac's father may be Jacob Jacobs.

The link to Artillery passage is quite interesting as a Philip Jacobs owned 14 Artillery passage. Could Rebecca(Rebekah) have either worked or lived at this address and as she was marrying John Jacobs son of Hyman, which could be a relative of Philip Jacobs, and was allowed to stay at 14 Artillery Passage?
Any help would be gratefully received.
Regards Pauline