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benny1982
26-08-2008, 09:40 PM
Hi

Like myself, there are millions of you out there researching London ancestry. And because of the shher population of the city it can be very hard. In 1801, London had nearly 1000'000 inhabitants. By 1851 that number had risen to around 2.2 million. Inbetween 1841 and 1871, a million people moved to London from other parts of the UK, and some from Continental Europe. But migration to London has always been great and rose in the late 1700s.

Due to that, there can be many difficulties in researching London ancestors, and with my experience, I thought I'd share them.

If you find an ancestor born in London in say 1812, and if both parents were dead before the 1841 or 1851 census, dont always assume that they were both born in London unless you have proven it through relations, or a name that is easy to trace. The parents may have moved to London before the birth of the eldest child, and yet after they married.

Dont despair if you cannot find a baptism, marriage or burial in a London church parish that an ancestor lived in. He may have had family who lived in another part of the capital, and had children baptised, or got married or was buried in an uncle's, parents, siblings parish or any other relatives parish that was different to the ancestors usual parish of residence. London had so many churches to choose from that some parishes of a persons worship may not have had any connection with the family, just that they were popular like St George Hanover Square.

If you cannot find an ancestor's marriage in London, then it is wise to assume that they might have got married outside London.

If you cannot find a baptism, marriage or burial of an ancestor who didnt live in London anywhere, try London as a possibility, especially for marriages. Many people just moved there temporarily to marry, for business, or simply leisure, or an ancestor had London connections with his job.

If the census says that an ancestor was born in London, yet the parents were not from London, and you cannot find the eldest child's birth, then try where the parents originated. Due to the huge numbers of people moving to London, many families with newborn babies would have moved there and a lot of people grew up in London thinking that they were born there when they were actually born just before the parents moved to London.

Ben

Jan1954
26-08-2008, 11:29 PM
Thank you for this, Ben.

I have instances in my own tree where the couple married in Cambridgeshire, but can be found on the censuses as living in London.

Just to confuse matters, they had all their children (except one!) baptised in their original village parish church. Luckily for me, there was a note in the baptismal registers, giving their London address!

Maid Marian
27-08-2008, 09:41 AM
I couldn't agree more.
I have several sets of London ancestors and even though older family members originally insisted they were Londoners through and through for decades, they weren't!!
So far,my hubby and I have London ancestors whose parents originated from - Nottingham,Wiltshire,Scotland,Liverpool,Sussex.Her tfordshire, Derbyshire, Lincolnhire, Yorkshire, Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire!! The families moved to London to find work.
I am still left with my Pierces and my Nelsons in London and they are my biggest brick wall at the moment!!

benny1982
27-08-2008, 07:23 PM
Hi

I find it quite irritating when people say, oh if your ancestor was born in London, then his parents probably were or they were all Londoners. No. London was a honeypot for poor rural migrants, and no Londoner whatsoever has ancestors that didnt originate in another part of England.

Ben

Johnzee
28-08-2008, 11:38 AM
Hi,

Yep, London is a problem.
Checking through some marriages hoping that witnesses would be of help in tracing family. NOPE. There were "professional witnesses"-one chap signed the church register at least once a week for ten years. What does this say about family relationships and the isolation of newlyweds in a big city. Or was marriage then something more like breakfast - undertaken in a daze and usually without visitors - the first cuppa for the day. Trouble is that the ones that I was researching also claimed that they were born in the county (Middlesex) and that their parents were too (1841 census). Only one person for the two marriages examined was a "non-professional". I did have some success with the another signature - I'm hoping that it will lead to an unknown (to present family) brother to my presently siblingless GGGGF.

Keep battling and London will fall in front of a barrage of genealogists.

Cheers

Johnzee

fogmog
26-10-2008, 01:21 AM
Hi Ben
Yes thanks for the tips. I am about to move into the London arena and keep putting it off because of its sheer size and daunting population. The census says my John Woodman was born in Willesden in 1806. He is consistently called a Pork Butcher. Anyone any ideas as to where a butcher may have moved into London from? He lived Hammersmith, in the village of Shephards Bush.
Cheers Fogmog

Colin Moretti
26-10-2008, 09:43 AM
...Anyone any ideas as to where a butcher may have moved into London from? He lived Hammersmith, in the village of Shephards Bush.
Cheers FogmogButchers were ubiquitous (how about that for a new word challenge?), they would be found in towns and villages throughout the land - impossible to say where he might have come from, I'm afraid. As Maid Marian has so well demonstrated, London was a great honeypot, attracting people from throughout the country and from all over the world.

Colin

benny1982
26-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Hi

Also, London was a haven for people who wanted to forget their past, or hide from a scandal to gain anonymity. For example if he had bad debts, was wanted for a crime or if parents had an illegitimate child and fled the area afterwards. Due to its enormity and population density, it was easy to not be found.

Ben