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deniroc
18-08-2008, 1:03 AM
Hi, I think I've found my grandfather not sure tho as the names are spelt differently.. can anyone tell me if there's a way for me to know that its really the family I'm searching for.
the names are Arthur Bousten Rockley father and son both. below are the family that I found which I'm sure its them as the forenames are all correct.
Arthur ROWKELEY Head M Male 34 Sheffield
Sarah H. ROWKELEY Wife M Female 32 Eckington, Derby, England
Amy A. ROWKELEY Daur U Female 11 Sheffield, York, England Scholar
Wm. ROWKELEY Son U Male 9 Kirby, York, England Scholar
Saml. H. ROWKELEY Son U Male 7 Sheffield, York, England Scholar
Arthar E. ROWKELEY Son U Male 6 Walkley, York, England Scholar
Mary J. ROWKELEY Daur U Female 4 Walkley, York, England Scholar
Sydney H. ROWKELEY Son U Male 4 Walkley, York, England
Eleanor ROWKELEY Daur U Female 3 Walkley ((Upperthorpe)), York, England
Frank ROWKELEY Son U Male 1 Walkley ((Upperthorpe)), York, England
bumblebee
18-08-2008, 1:06 AM
Arthur senior is a Scissor Maker. I would say if all the forenames are correct then it is likely to be them. Variations on surnames are very common.
Bumblebee
bumblebee
18-08-2008, 1:11 AM
This could be his marriage
Arthur Rouksley, (part of image of last name is not that clear on the index) 1869 Q3 Sheffield 9c 483 - Sarah Hannah Hinchcliffe on same page (with others, William Keeton and Mary Plant)
Same family in 1891 - image may say Rowksley,
Agnes E Rouksley 7
Annie A Rouksley 20
Arthur Rouksley 44
Arthur E Rouksley 16
Charles F Rouksley 9
Eleanor R A Rouksley 12
Frank E Rouksley 11
Mary J Rouksley 14
Samuel H Rouksley 17
Sarah H Rouksley 42
Sydney H Rouksley 3
William I Rouksley 18
RG12; Piece: 3799; Folio 95; Page 27
Bumblebee
deniroc
20-08-2008, 12:23 AM
Thank you guys for replying..
I'm very confused.. I need to get a birth certificate for Arthur B. rockley but how do I go about it if I do not know if its the same family.
his profession was textiles.
bumblebee
20-08-2008, 1:25 AM
Hi Deniroc
Just to recap, as I know you have been trying to find Arthur's family, - In an earlier thread you said Arthur was born in 1891 in Nottinghamshire. If he was born in 1891 then the above cannot be him as the son (Arthur E not Arthur B) is already 16 by the 1891 census.
Also in an earlier thread you said the baptisms had the middle name of Bousten, when and where was he baptised?
You said that Arthur Bouston Rockley married in India - I do not know what information you have on his marriage, but do you have any information as to how old he was when he married, and what his father's name was (if that was given) as there seems to be some discrepancy between it being John or Arthur.
I think as he is being elusive you just need to look at the actual facts that you have proven so far, ie marriage details, age, father's name, baptism date and details and then take it from there.
Bumblebee
deniroc
20-08-2008, 4:06 PM
Hi, all the previous info I had was incorrect. The only correct information I have is his marriage certificate. I'm in a real mess because of this.
This is the actual info I have which is not much.
Name: Arthur Bousten Rockley (Jr)
Birth: 1890-1892
Father's name : Arthur Bousten Rockley (Sr)
Mother's name (unknown)
born: Yorkshire or nottinghamshire
Siblings: Frank, Samuel, John. (don't know if any others)
Father's profession: Textile mills
Marriage: Ethel Augusta Hopper
Parents: John Charles and Fanny Hopper
Residence at marriage: Barout, near Delhi.
solemnized at St. James church, Delhi. India
Year: Jan-10-1921 (correct as in certificate)
The above mentioned could be his 2nd marriage because I have found a listing of a Arthur B. Rockley's marriage to Helen Jane Ainsworth, 1885 in India.
Can anyone do a search in 'find my past' for emigration Information?
I'm sorry for all the previous post as it was incorrect.
bumblebee
20-08-2008, 11:34 PM
Hi deniroc
What about the information on this previous thread of yours.
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32151
I take it that Arthur Juniors age was not given on the marriage certificate or an occupation at the time of marriage?
There is an older Mr A B Rockley who seems to be going backwards and forwards to Bombay (Pakistan) he is a Manager/Company Secretary.
Bumblebee
bumblebee
20-08-2008, 11:49 PM
Details for this chap
Mr A B ROCKLAY left Liverpool 4 November 1924, to Bombay, destination Pakistan. Age: 59, not accompanied by wife. Occupation is Company Secretary, Last Address in England is the Metria? hotel, Southport. The ship was called the 'City of Cairo'.
Possibly the same man travelling out previously on the 5th November 1920, on the ship the 'City of London'. Occupation Manager.
Also a Mr A B Rockley, Attorney, aged 56, leaving Liverpool on the 6th January 1922, last address in England is 165 Leamington Road, Blackburn.
Bumblebee
bumblebee
21-08-2008, 12:21 AM
If you think the marriage in India of Arthur B Rockley and Hellen Jane Ainsworth could be relevant you can order a copy on the India Office Family History site.
Bumblebee
Procat
21-08-2008, 10:12 AM
Hi Deniroc,
Is the thread (http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32151) referred to by Bumblebee now obsolete?
If it is I will lock it so there is no future confusion.
blue eyes
21-08-2008, 2:08 PM
Ethel Augusta Hopper
Born 27 Dec 1892
Christened 5 Feb 1893
Tundla West Bengal India
Father John Charles Hopper
Mother Fanny Mary
This is an extracted record from Family Search.
deniroc
21-08-2008, 4:03 PM
Yes that is her.. thank you
deniroc
21-08-2008, 4:15 PM
Thank you so much, as this has cleared up things for me. Don't know why I was given the wrong information.. I'm so sorry for that. Now it all makes sense.
Name: Arthur Bousten Rockley (Jr)
Birth: 1889-1892
Father's name : Arthur Bousten Rockley (Sr)
Mother's name: Helen J. Ainsworth
Siblings: Frank, Samuel, John. (don't know if any others)
Father's profession: Textile mills
Marraige: Ethel Augusta Hopper (age 28)
Year: 10 Jan 1921
Arthur B. Rockley's Profession: Asst. Manager ( Dalmia Mills, Akola) Delhi
What I'm searching for is his birth.. If born in England then how and when did he come to India?
deniroc
21-08-2008, 4:16 PM
Yes Procat, pls do.
Procat
23-08-2008, 1:08 AM
Hi Deniroc,
Alternative thread locked as requested.
deniroc
01-09-2008, 4:45 PM
Can anyone do a overseas birth lookup.. someone told me to even check up
Regimental Births and Consular returns. they have to be somewhere???
Where do I search?
Procat
02-09-2008, 9:14 AM
They are online on Findmypast.com
deniroc
02-09-2008, 10:00 PM
They are online on Findmypast.com
ok, thank you Procat.
deniroc
18-09-2008, 7:56 PM
Hi Everyone, I still could not find A. B. Rockley's birth :confused:
I have found this on NA, it is his brother Frank Melville Rockley.. with this information can we find his birth?
Medal card of Rockley, F
Corps Regiment No Rank
Indian Defence Force 172 Sapper
Date 1914-1925
Catalogue reference WO 372/28
Can someone please lookup the overseas births on FMP?
Thank you.
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