83RD REGIMENT 1825 TO 1840

[sue alderton]

Would anyone know where the 83rd Regiment at Foot would have been stationed when in England between 1825 and 1838. My ggggrtgrandfather was in that regiment in that time period and I want to know where he might have joined up. So if anyone would have some information on the 83rd and their home barracks I would appreciate some help. The Kew Records Office did not keep any of his military records for him because he was court marshalled not pensoined off.

Thanks Sue

[keith9351]

I can't help on were they were stationed in England but here is there deployment between 1825-1840

83rd (County of Dublin) Regiment of Foot

1825 England
1829 Scotland
1830 Ireland
1834 Canada
1838 Canada -1837-1838 Canadian Rebellions
1839 Canada
1843 England

They are now part of the Royal Irish Regiment have you tried there museum?

Keith

[Peter Goodey]

Have you considered searching for the Court Martial papers?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=28

[sue alderton]

Thanks for all the help, I have the transcripts of the Proceedings of his Court Marshall in August 1837 which were held in Quebec Lower Canada obtained from the Kew Records Office and also Records of Military Prisoners in Goals in Quebec from the Canada Archives. He was sentenced to 14 years transportation but was returned to England to be placed on the Bengal Merchant to be sent to Australia in March 1838. None of these documents mention his birth place which is what I am after to trace his family line. I have all the documents that can be retrieved from the Australian State Records Office that has information that was contributed by him upon his transportation. I also have his TOL, Pardon and Certificate of Freedom, his MC and his DC but still none of these documents mention his birth place. I have searched the internet high and low for the last 2 years so that is why I am putting out an SOS on the rootschat forum someone may have just come across some minor piece of information that would make a big difference to me or make a suggestion I may not have thought of.

[taniav]

Have a look at Asplin Military as you know the regiment and his name it may have dates of enlistment age & place. I was surprised to find the info but you need to know the regiment which obviously you do

[sue alderton]

Thanks Tania for the link, I located the site, all I can say is thank God for these volunteers that take an interest in our history and are willing to share that with the rest of us. Unfortunately Kevin Asplin covers the years from 1856 onwards mainly in the Victorian times, but a very interesting site on lots of the military regiments of that time and over 50,000 servicemens names, a very valuable resource for anyone looking for the record of a family member, but I will keep trying.
I have info about his Court Marshall from the Kew Records Office, the Quebec Archives, his TOL, his Pardon from the NSW State Archives and his MC and DC from the NSW BDM but none of these documents state his birth place which is what I am after to trace the family line and I thought his military history might shed some light on that. So for anyone else out there the background I have so far:

John Alderton
served in the 83rd Regiment somewhere between 1830 and 1838 definitely but was a career soldier so could have joined earlier
his service number was 451 or 471
was court marshalled on 18 August 1837 for desertion in Quebec Canada
was returned to England on the 'Statesby' in military prison to await transportation
sentence was 14 years transportation to Australia
transported in March 1838 on the Bengal Merchant and arrived July 1838 and the rest is known about him

Sue

[21pipes]

Hi Sue, My Great grandfather (#744) William McCoy was in the 83rd Foot and joined at Enniskillen, County Fermanagh 1 Sept. 1830. The regiment having previously been stationed at Glasgow. They remained in Ireland and ended up stationed in Dublin at Richmond Barracks. They left Ireland via Cork in April 1833 on two seperate ships and arrived at Halifax, Nova Scotia where they remained until June 1837 when they sailed down the St. Lawrence seaway to the citadel at Quebed City, province of Quebec. My great grandfather purchased his discharge in 1839 and stayed in Canada. I am quite interested in the history of the 83rd as it pertains to this period and would be curious to know of the details of your relative's court martial. I was able to construct the movements of my great grandfather by consulting the War Office Records at Kew, namely the Pay Muster Records W/O 12 8690 to 8698 which represents the years 1829 through 1839. Generally the place of enlistment, trade, age, height are contaned in the first entry of the time of enrollment. Sometimes, parish of birth which I believe is what you are after.
Jim W.

[Geoffers]

I have the transcripts of the Proceedings of his Court Marshall in August 1837 which were held in Quebec Lower Canada obtained from the Kew Records Office and also Records of Military Prisoners in Goals in Quebec from the Canada Archives. He was sentenced to 14 years transportation but was returned to England to be placed on the Bengal Merchant to be sent to Australia in March 1838. None of these documents mention his birth place which is what I am after to trace his family line. .

Have you tried Description Books (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/rdleaflet.asp?sLeafletID=16#4)?
A search of TNA's catalogue for '83' between 1825 and 1840 in WO25 gives these hits (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=83&txtfirstdate=1825&txtlastdate=1840&txtrestriction=WO25&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=29&image1.y=9)

Or is he mentioned in the Musters and Pay Lists (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?fldLettercodeRef=WO&fldClassRef=12&fldSearchNumber=194820&fldInvert=0&SearchInit=6)? (See the same rsearch guide as Description Books, above)