Naval Casualty WW1

[Roy Faulkes]

I believe from family lore that a Great Uncle of mine was killed in WW1 on board HMS Hampshire which was mined and lost on June 5 1916 north of the Orkneys , he was b. 1899 in Peckham , London and named Thomas Edward BARGEN.
Lord Kitchener was also lost in this sinking en route to Russia .
Where are war deaths reported in detail ? , there is no civil registration of his death and I would like to confirm if this person is indeed a relative by checking his next of Kin shown on his service record.
He is ;
A casualty listed on HMS Hampshire and shown as Thomas E. BARGEN
serving as a Boy Seaman , First Class . Service number J38133
Any help and advice would be appreciated,
Thanks.
Roy

[Jan1954]

You could try the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (http://www.cwgc.org/) website to see if he is listed.

[Geoffers]

I believe from family lore that a Great Uncle of mine was killed in WW1 on board HMS Hampshire which was mined and lost on June 5 1916 north of the Orkneys , he was b. 1899 in Peckham , London and named Thomas Edward BARGEN.Where are war deaths reported in detail ? , there is no civil registration of his death

You won't find his death in with the normal civil index of deaths. His will be included in the RN War Deaths - Navy All Ranks Indices - 1914-1921.

This is available on pay-per-view sites such as findmypast. If you search the index, you will see him included:

BARGEN, Thomas E - Boy 1 - Hampshire 1916 RN.181

You can pay a small fee to download his service record from TNA's document online (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7156082&queryType=1&resultcount=1)

Standard RN service records from this period will not include next-of-kin

As Jan has suggested, look at CWGC (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2875577) - and you'll see mention of his next-of-kin

[Peter Goodey]

You can also obtain a death certificate but I wouldn't bother - it won't contain any information of value that you don't already know.

[Squaredancer]

The CWGC site shows that he was "Son of the late John and Ann Bargen, of Hoxton, London" and also that he was 17.

[Roy Faulkes]

Thank you for the response and particularly the WGC showing the parents. They are indeed the parent names of our Family member Tommy.
I appreciate all the help
Roy

[KEVIN BARGEN]

UOTE=Geoffers;169373]You won't find his death in with the normal civil index of deaths. His will be included in the RN War Deaths - Navy All Ranks Indices - 1914-1921.

This is available on pay-per-view sites such as findmypast. If you search the index, you will see him included:

BARGEN, Thomas E - Boy 1 - Hampshire 1916 RN.181

You can pay a small fee to download his service record from TNA's document online (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7156082&queryType=1&resultcount=1)

Standard RN service records from this period will not include next-of-kin

As Jan has suggested, look at CWGC (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2875577) - and you'll see mention of his next-of-kin[/QUOTE]