HEADING FOR THE WORKHOUSE, YOU COMING?

[David Annis]

There's now a lot of month left at the end of my money.
What with taxes and prices going up, things are seriously getting out of hand.
I'm beginning to think that this government and Parliament need investigation by the "Rogue Traders" TV program.
Prices are going up everywhere to protect profit margins. I cannot do the same and offset these increases as I am not in control of my income.
Blatant taxes, stealth taxes and squeezing blood out of stones taxes seem to be the order of the day. We are paying out more and more for height, length, weight, capacity and any other measurement these dipstick bureaucrats, sat in an offices, can dream up.
Window tax ??? Its been done before, they just have not got round to that one yet (or have they).
Time I think for a new Oliver Cromwell to march into Parliament and throw all these gravy train, useless MP'S out into the street. Back to where they belong, selling timeshares and used cars.
Cheers.
Dave.
|soapbox|

[Tederator]

Time I think for a new Oliver Cromwell to march into Parliament and throw all these gravy train, useless MP'S out into the street. Back to where they belong, selling timeshares and used cars.
Cheers.
Dave.
|soapbox|


I'm glad to see we are not the only country being treated the same way but I don't think our MP's could sell timeshares or used cars they wouldn't know how. From what I've seen, when Parliament is televised, they can only sit there and pick their noses, that's about all they are fit for.
Cheers
Ted.|soapbox|

[Neil Wilson]

Window tax ??? Its been done before, they just have not got round to that one yet (or have they).
Sorry Dave, it's in force. If you change your windows without planning permission and not for the same style you get a fine (well it is a type of tax, goes into the bottomless pit) to pay their expenses and nannies (see today's news about the MP responsible for looking into expenses, used her's to pay her nanny as a secretary)

[Jan1954]

The trouble is, it doesn't matter who you vote for -the Government always gets in... |shakehead

[v.wells]

The trouble is, it doesn't matter who you vote for -the Government always gets in... |shakehead

It happens in Canada too! Our current provincial gov't in Alberta just voted themselves a 34% increase (behind closed doors, at that|scold|) and this after just receiving a cost of living increase in April! This now makes them the highest paid Premier and ministers in Canada. My pension hasn't gone up but everything else has! |soapbox|

[Davran]

It's not just MPs. The mayor of a certain seaside town was yesterday seen depositing large wooden items in the refuse bin (collected weekly) of the neighbouring school. The school is funded by the county council (ie our taxes) and has to pay extra if the bin is overfull, so we are paying for this gentleman's refuse disposal and also his expenses on council business! I would have thought that if you wanted to remain in public office you should be squeaky-clean!

[jeanettemarie]

The trouble is, it doesn't matter who you vote for -the Government always gets in... |shakehead

I think we should all get together and form a new genealogical party, Im sure we could do much better, as we have researchrd the past, we know the hardships.
Or maybe we nee another Robin Hood:D as the government seem to all be like the Sheriff of Nottingham, Taxes Taxes and more Taxes

[Barnzzz]

"I think we should all get together and form a new genealogical party"

What a good idea ! Once in power we can get the 1911 online, and maybe the 1921 census too.

(Of course we'll be good/honest/non greedy politicians and have other policies in our manifesto too)

Sue

[v.wells]

"I think we should all get together and form a new genealogical party"

What a good idea ! Once in power we can get the 1911 online, and maybe the 1921 census too.

(Of course we'll be good/honest/non greedy politicians and have other policies in our manifesto too)

Sue

Fabulous Idea!:D

[Waitabit]

YEAAAAAAH!
We Too,We Too.

:D:D:D

[David Tuson]

"I think we should all get together and form a new genealogical party"

What a good idea ! Once in power we can get the 1911 online, and maybe the 1921 census too.

(Of course we'll be good/honest/non greedy politicians and have other policies in our manifesto too)

Sue

Suggestion for one of the policies - ALL genealogy web sites are free! - but only to registered members of BG of course

[David Annis]

Fine, as long as I am the Prime Minister.
No1 policy. Britain and the British public come first and we go cap in hand to nobody.
If the EU don't like it, they can go whistle Dixie.|nutkick|

Re instate our industry and agriculture, only import on a a last resort basis.

My super duper policy will be, any industry that packs up and leaves these shores because they can make more profit from cheap labour abroad, has a crippling import duty slapped on their products coming back into this country.
No cherry picking and asset stripping of our industry by foreign companies.

Cheers
Dave.

P's. Any bank holiday that looks like its going to be wet gets canceled and moved to a nicer day. |jumphappy

[Jan1954]

P's. Any bank holiday that looks like its going to be wet gets canceled and moved to a nicer day. |jumphappy
That's most of them, then :D

[Tederator]

That's most of them, then :D

Shouldn't that be ALL of them, the last time I was in England, 1992, I had to ask which day summer was, I was told I had missed it by a week.|cheers|

Cheers

Ted.

[David Annis]

But on the plus side we only get bitten by Politicians not spiders.
We don't have to lift the toilet seat to see whats lurking there. (on second thoughts).
Cheers
Dave.

[Browneyes]

Personally I would like to see a psychologist report on each member of the government.

Browneyes

[melsibob]

I am surpised the government isn't keen for 1911 and 1921 census to be released early - just think how much money they would make on certifcate purchases alone!

[Degan]

[QUOTE=David Annis;166655]Fine, as long as I am the Prime Minister.

If you put yourself forward, I promise to vote for you. But who will sort out all the financial problems?
Degan

[v.wells]

I am surpised the government isn't keen for 1911 and 1921 census to be released early - just think how much money they would make on certifcate purchases alone!

:D Excellent idea, Melsibob! :D

[MythicalMarian]

the last time I was in England, 1992, I had to ask which day summer was, I was told I had missed it by a week.|cheers|

Cheers

Ted.

|laugh1| |laugh1| |laugh1|

[Jade26]

I'm glad to see we are not the only country being treated the same way but I don't think our MP's could sell timeshares or used cars they wouldn't know how. From what I've seen, when Parliament is televised, they can only sit there and pick their noses, that's about all they are fit for.
Cheers
Ted.|soapbox|

No they wouldn't be able to go back to selling timeshares or used cars, not just because they wouldn't know how to, but also because fewer people can afford to buy such things nowadays. |idea|They could however give themselves a government grant and take up art. Aussie politicians are very skilled with a paintbrush and cow excreta.

Trish

[Tederator]

Aussie politicians are very skilled with a paintbrush and cow excreta.
Trish


A very true fact!!

Ted

[ellie_downunder]

|soapbox|

Can you please make a law regarding Compensation for the convict descendants who's ancestors were placed in exile due to an act of genetic cleansing by the British government, also can you consider land rights and a free passage for any descendant that wants to return and study their lost culture and be reunited with lost family. oh and can we be given access to any documentation free of charge that will be needed to find our families:D

can you also have our Aboriginal people's remains sent back, that are in you Museum's, and can we have the gold back that was sent to England and anything else of ours that you have. Your just lucky you don't / cant have the Ashes cause thats one thing you cant get|biggrin|

[Tederator]

cant have the Ashes cause thats one thing you cant get|biggrin|



They can't play Rugby League either!!!

[Hugh Thompson]

Compound interest on fifth generation Aussie+travelling:D+pain and suffering allowance deprivision of liberty,------------------mmmmm?|scold| I should be able to buy CORNWALL!!!!Thanks Ellie.
Hi Ted .

[Jan1954]

Compound interest on fifth generation Aussie+travelling:D+pain and suffering allowance deprivision of liberty,------------------mmmmm?|scold| I should be able to buy CORNWALL!!!!Thanks Ellie.
Hi Ted .Hmmmm - I think that the Duke of Cornwall (aka HRH the Prince of Wales) might have something to say about that.... |biggrin|

[Procat]

Dangerous ground there Hugh.

A certain Mod may take offence at that comment. :D

[Procat]

If i was Hugh I would be more worried about the Mod than the Duke. :D:D

[Jan1954]

If i was Hugh I would be more worried about the Mod than the Duke. :D:DHaving met both, I am inclined to agree! |biggrin|

[Hugh Thompson]

I don't know,our family was there before his|jumphappy

[Hugh Thompson]

Don't worry Jan and Doug, you can tell a certain MOD!!that I'll put in new plumbing when i take over the place:D:D

[Jade26]

[QUOTE=ellie_downunder;239409]|soapbox|

Can you please make a law regarding Compensation for the convict descendants who's ancestors were placed in exile due to an act of genetic cleansing by the British government, also can you consider land rights and a free passage for any descendant that wants to return and study their lost culture and be reunited with lost family. oh and can we be given access to any documentation free of charge that will be needed to find our families:D

Great idea Ellie, I'm sure the politicians over there will come to the party and make lots of promises, which of course they will keep unlike their Colonial counterparts. Now as far as land rights go, I bags Dunottar Castle, but I will insist that they fix the plumbing first. I want a double flush button over the grate in the Whigs' vault.|biggrin||biggrin|

Trish

[ellie_downunder]

Quote :
Now as far as land rights go, I bags Dunottar Castle, but I will insist that they fix the plumbing first. I want a double flush button over the grate in the Whigs' vault


Thats ok you can have any place you want, I will have Kent, London, and Bristol, so far :D I will let you know about the others later,
I would of gone for Chester Castle too but it would be too traumatic
considering poor little Hannah |angel|conceived and gave birth to Martha in there, |nopity| then they just shipped them both off to NSW

quote : They can't play Rugby League either!!!

We should not get into the Rugby, SOCCER :D its bad enough they cant play cricket |scold|and you will just make them feel bad.

[MarkJ]

Whoa! Only just spotted this little lot!

Please feel free to move on to another thread as I rant :)

Right, for starters, the English Government have manipulated history to accidentally forget what was essentially ethnic cleansing of the Cornish population. Hanging the vicars of churches from their church towers for refusing to preach only in English for example or the actions of Athelstan if we go back a bit further...

A lot of the Cornish population was treated as essentially slave labour in the mining industry - which of course is now seen as being quaint picturesque landscape. The mine owners were not Cornish - nor did the majority actually live in Cornwall. They simply took the profits away.

I won't go into the "county of Cornwall" vs the "Duchy of Cornwall" vs the "Country of Cornwall" - but I will state that I am of the opinion that Cornwall is a Country, in the same way that Wales or Scotland are. Should anyone wish to discuss that, feel free to PM me :)
I am not English - I am Cornish. I am British.

My alleged leige - the Prince Of Wales (and I don't blame Prince Charles for the historical background in this) takes land from people who die intestate in Cornwall - unlike the rest of "England", where the land goes to the "Crown" - i.e HM The Queen.
Strange that the benefits of free land go to the Prince Of Wales when it comes to Kernow, yet the rest goes to the reigning Monarch. That to me indicates the use of double standards when the UK Government refuses to accept Cornwall as a seperate entity. The EU recognises Cornwall as a minority as far as race is concerned, yet the UK Government still states that Cornwall is part of England.

I could go on for hours about this - the Church Of England and their cathedral in Truro, the Battle of Blackheath and lots more, but I won't.

Bro Goth Agan Tasow

Margh

[Hugh Thompson]

I can tell that you're not happy Mark|soapbox|,must be something in the water|idea|,definately needs new plumbing:D
don't you think Ellie and Jade?:D

[ellie_downunder]

Mark, we know your just a Penzance Pirate looking for Sympathy !


Oh, dry the glistening tear
That dews that chubby cheek;
Thy loving friends do hear,
In them thy comfort seek.
With sympathetic care
Their arms around thee creep,
For oh, they cannot bear
To see their Moderator weep! |hug|

[ellie_downunder]

Hugh don't worry about the plumbing those Cornish miners in the Bendigo goldfield's left enough holes in the ground to make a very fine Dunny

I think most of them came over here after our gold anyway and never went back
but they did bring the Cornish pasty recipe with them so I guess its alright :D

I think Mark is just trying to take away our land rights and gain a bit of sympathy|scold|

Quote : Hanging the vicars of churches from their church towers

I wonder if their sermons were like Marks|snore|

[Hugh Thompson]

"but they did bring the Cornish pasty recipe"Mmmmmmmmm love Cornish pasties:Dgetting hungry actually.
Friends of mine moved out to Lightning Ridge to mine opals,she insisted on a flush toilet forgetting that it was the only water for miles,everytime someone had to use the dunny they had to throw out all the frogs in the bowl,they even found a way into the cistern:D:D so he had to use one of his mine shafts with a seat ovet the top of it and it was 40 feet deep|nopity| you should have heard the sound effects|biggrin|

[sue1]

A recent quote I saw:

"Politicians should be changed as often as babies nappies and for the same reason."

I like that!|soapbox|

Sue

[Tederator]

Quote :


quote : They can't play Rugby League either!!!

We should not get into the Rugby, SOCCER :D its bad enough they cant play cricket |scold|and you will just make them feel bad.

That's good |laugh1|

[ellie_downunder]

That was so good Sue |biggrin|

[ellie_downunder]

"but they did bring the Cornish pasty recipe"Mmmmmmmmm love Cornish pasties:Dgetting hungry actually.
Friends of mine moved out to Lightning Ridge to mine opals,she insisted on a flush toilet forgetting that it was the only water for miles,everytime someone had to use the dunny they had to throw out all the frogs in the bowl,they even found a way into the cistern so he had to use one of his mine shafts with a seat ovet the top of it and it was 40 feet deep|nopity| you should have heard the sound effects|

|biggrin| I got locked in one of them |moon|for what seemed like hours because the door jammed when I was on a school camp........all I had was a torch, the smell and the spiders were a nightmare, thank goodness there were no frogs jumping on me |jumphappy cause I would of freaked out more than what I did !

[MarkJ]

Hmm... locked in the loo in Oz and not bothered by the (presumably highly poisonous in some cases) spiders, but frogs would freak you? Strange! :D

Talking of toilets, my daughter was in Tanzania a year or two ago, working with a charity and helping teach English to youngsters in the mountains there. All the time she was there, she used the local facilities - a "long drop" toilet - but on her last day, one of the locals asked her why she wasn't using the nice new toilet block - with flush etc - around the back of the village :D

Mark

[beachbaby]

There's now a lot of month left at the end of my money.
What with taxes and prices going up, things are seriously getting out of hand.
I'm beginning to think that this government and Parliament need investigation by the "Rogue Traders" TV program.
Prices are going up everywhere to protect profit margins. I cannot do the same and offset these increases as I am not in control of my income.
Blatant taxes, stealth taxes and squeezing blood out of stones taxes seem to be the order of the day. We are paying out more and more for height, length, weight, capacity and any other measurement these dipstick bureaucrats, sat in an offices, can dream up.
Window tax ??? Its been done before, they just have not got round to that one yet (or have they).
Time I think for a new Oliver Cromwell to march into Parliament and throw all these gravy train, useless MP'S out into the street. Back to where they belong, selling timeshares and used cars.
Cheers.
Dave.
|soapbox|


Window tax - are you kidding? Do they really do such things? Wow, I thought "Taxachusetts" was bad. I just handed over a check to the oil delivery man for almost $400 - now I don't feel so bad.

Good luck!

Teri |wave|

[beachbaby]

It happens in Canada too! Our current provincial gov't in Alberta just voted themselves a 34% increase (behind closed doors, at that|scold|) and this after just receiving a cost of living increase in April! This now makes them the highest paid Premier and ministers in Canada. My pension hasn't gone up but everything else has! |soapbox|

The powers that be hereabouts just voted themselves a 5% pay increase. My paycheck hasn't gone up in years, and my husband does the work of 3 people. My 401K has gone into the basement but I cannot write off the loss, although the IRS would be quick to want their share of any gains.

I blame the people (here in Boston it's unbelievable) who vote them in time and again. I make a point at every election to vote against any and all incumbents. We just had 3 legislators get indicted for ethics and fraud, and the Illinois governor - well, he's a real piece of work. Where do these people crawl out from under?

You and I are only here for them to give swift kicks to. Heaven help us

Teri

[beachbaby]

Fine, as long as I am the Prime Minister.
No1 policy. Britain and the British public come first and we go cap in hand to nobody.
If the EU don't like it, they can go whistle Dixie.|nutkick|

Re instate our industry and agriculture, only import on a a last resort basis.

My super duper policy will be, any industry that packs up and leaves these shores because they can make more profit from cheap labour abroad, has a crippling import duty slapped on their products coming back into this country.
No cherry picking and asset stripping of our industry by foreign companies.

Cheers
Dave.

P's. Any bank holiday that looks like its going to be wet gets canceled and moved to a nicer day. |jumphappy


I'm with you!

[ellie_downunder]

Oh no Mark , the poor girl, I gather a long drop = our Aussie slang term of Dunny you think they would of told her earlier |laugh1|
Red backs are the only spider here in victoria that can be a problem, that I know of anyway, Our snakes are what we have to watch out for plenty of them about
where I live, but most of the time they will get out of your way when they hear you coming. Frogs are slimy and when you kiss them they don't turn into prince's|scold|
I learn't something from your post tonight, I never knew the Cornish people were treated so badly by the English, I knew about the Irish but I guess that history will come when and if my research ends in Cornwall or I keep reading your sermons |nopity|

Cheers Ellie

[MarkJ]

It was all in the past of course, but yes, Cornwall has been treated quite poorly. I think it was all just jealousy because we have nice beaches ;)

Not having kissed many frogs (well, none actually!), I have no idea what they turn into ;) Can't say as I would be thrilled by a prince in any case - a nice princess would suit me better :D

A long drop, as its name suggests is just an extension over the side of the mountain area and what you do in there just drops down the side of the mountain ;) With resources being limited, I suppose it saves on water etc. The only water they had was from a stream some distance away and carried to the village each day. Although the locals drank it, it isn't terribly clean. They "sterilise" it by placing it in a clear plastic bottle which is left out in the sun for a few hours!

She enjoyed it though and is off to Kenya this year to do some research for her Biology degree.

Mark

[ellie_downunder]

No our Dunny is not like that its a deep hole with a throne over it|biggrin|

[Jade26]

I can tell that you're not happy Mark|soapbox|,must be something in the water|idea|,definately needs new plumbing:D
don't you think Ellie and Jade?:D

Definately Hugh, and I also think that we Aussies should join forces with Mark and David Annis (who started this thread), and form a new republic in "Australia's Little Cornwall". Let's raise an army of plumbers and start them marching towards Kadina, Moonta and Wallaroo. Let's legislate for shorter months, more money and the re-writing of all old South Australian BMD's to show some useful information. We'll do it OUR way!

Darn, we might have to wait a week or two or three. Just called every plumber in the phone book and there's none available. |biggrin||biggrin|

Trish

[MarkJ]

If they were available, you probably couldn't afford them :D They price per hour using phone book numbers!

Mark ;)

[ellie_downunder]

Plumbing your got to be joking there are generations of plumbers from Lambeth in my family One place I am not going|scold| got enough trouble with my own pipes:o

[David Annis]

With great joy I welcome our Aussie cousins, who have taken such an interest in this posting.
We, as Brits, can always be sure that the folks down under will always cheer our winning on the sports field and show remorse when we fail to win.
Because of this, we should return some of the gold they think we owe them.
I propose we send them all our olympic golds, as they seemed to have won so few recently.
As for the Rugby and Cricket, well what goes round comes round.
Returning artifacts, I'm sure, if all the rest of the worlds museums would be prepared to return everything to their country of origin, then we would join in.
Cheers
Dave. |biggrin|

[David Annis]

As for your shortage of plummers.
Our prisons are full to overflowing. Maybe with work training we could solve our problems and yours in one fowl swoop.
Plus, no worries, as I dont suppose its gone on record that anyone has ever stolen a dunny.

Ps is there any other skills your short of, as we would train them for that as well.
PPs. Why has this not been thought of this before.

|jumphappy
Cheers.
Dave.

[Tederator]

With great joy I welcome our Aussie cousins, who have taken such an interest in this posting.
We, as Brits, can always be sure that the folks down under will always cheer when we fail to win.

|biggrin|



I knew we'd get a bite sooner or later. :D

[Hugh Thompson]

Yup!!:D|nopity|

[Jade26]

As for your shortage of plummers.
Our prisons are full to overflowing. Maybe with work training we could solve our problems and yours in one fowl swoop.
Plus, no worries, as I dont suppose its gone on record that anyone has ever stolen a dunny.

Ps is there any other skills your short of, as we would train them for that as well.
PPs. Why has this not been thought of this before.

|jumphappy
Cheers.
Dave.

I wish now I hadn't deleted some old files from my other computer. I had a copy of an article where some-one had pinched an outdoor dunny from a police station that had been closed. Got to admire the training some of our ancestors received, their skills have been passed down through the generations.

As for other skills we are short of, we need more skilled note printers at the mint to help overcome the shortage of money at the end of each month.

Cheers Trish|jumphappy

[Jane Gee]

I have to say when I retire that I could almost (but wont) commit benefit fraud because I see too many people getting away with it!|banghead|
However if I tried I'd get caught.

[ellie_downunder]

I knew we'd get a bite sooner or later. :D

Yep I knew if we used some larvae on our hooks, we'd get an extra big bite |biggrin||biggrin||biggrin|

[ellie_downunder]

Returning artifacts, I'm sure, if all the rest of the worlds museums would be prepared to return everything to their country of origin, then we would join in.
Cheers
Dave. [/QUOTE]

Those artifacts are someone's ancestors |scold| now I am biting, |biggrin|

|soapbox|


How would you feel if we had your ancestors heads in our museum's ? We are talking about human beings who should be returned out of respect |scold|
they deserve to be returned to their descendants |hug|and to be Given a decent burial.

I believe its time to do the right thing, I know our generation's are not responsible for what has been done in the past, but the consequence
is that those descendants feel sadness and they want them returned.

They don't feel what we feel when we find our ancestors in an birth or marriage index. they know that their ancestor is in some museum or university being used as a freak show in the name of science and education
and we our generation has the power to make it right by returning not artifacts but human remains.

Just a little food for thought, If Japan or Germany had our soldiers heads in there museums what would the world say then ? |moon|

Cheers ellie

[David Annis]

This has veered right away from the original posting. Time to put it to bed I think.
Cheers
Dave.

[Tederator]

This has veered right away from the original posting.
Dave.


Yep, usual course......What else is new?

Ted.

[ellie_downunder]

Goodnight David hope you can sleep well |snore|