Northampton Parish Registers

[Sandyhall]

Hi
my Library has Parish Registers for the following villages in South Northamptonshire

Alderton
Aynho
Blakesley
Blisworth
Brackley
Bradden
Bugbrooke
Chacombe
Cold Higham
Casgrove
Courteenhall
Croughton
Culworth
Easton Neston
Edgcote
Evenley
Farthinghoe
Gayton
Grafton Regis
Greatworth
Greens Norton
Hartwell
Helmdon
Hinton in The Hedges
Marston St. Lawrence
Middleton Cheney
Milton Malsor
Moreton Pinkney
Newbottle
Passenham
Pattishall
Paulerspury
Plumpton
Potterspury
Radstone
Ashton(by Roade)
Roade
Rothersthorpe
Silverstone
Slapton
Stoke Bruerne
Sulgrave
Thenford
Thorpe Mandeville
Tiffield
Towcester
Wappenham
Weedon Lois
Whitfield
Whittlebury
Wicken

anyone who wants a look up give me a shout

Sandy

[Marie C..]

Sandy,
I'm shouting. Can you hear me?
Re your kind offer for look ups in parish registers. Courteenhall... I have a William Sturges/s miller and mason born Courteenhall, before 1798. He moved to Roade where he married Mary Evans in 1821. Any possible chance of finding who his parents are please?
Many thanks,
Marie

[Sandyhall]

Hi

Watch this space I will go tomorrow

Sandy

I wondered what all the noise was LOL

[maz1]

hi sandy
I was wondering if you could please tell me if Newbottle is the same place as NOBOTTLE Northampton? or are they two different places?

Im looking for a MARY MANNING born abt 1787 NOBOTTLE Northampton
she married THOMAS AMOS in Brington in 1808
and she's driving me mad.

So if you think they might be the same place would it be at all possible to have a look for her birth for me please.

thanks ever so much
all the best
marian

[Sandyhall]

maz1

will look for you as I'm sure its Newbottle....

Sandy

[Marie C..]

Thanks Sandy!
Marie

[Sandyhall]

Hello Ladies

I've just got back from the Library its a bit wet here.....

Looked at Christenings and Burials 1761 - 1812 Courteenhall found the following
William Sturgs
Christening of William 20 January 1798 son of William and Mary STURDIS (note spelling)
also with the same parents
Thomas 12 July 1801
Sarah 29 May 1803
Charles 5 Aug 1804
John 15 Jan1809

Looked at marriages 1754 - 1812 to see if I could find one for William and Mary the parents - found nothing...

Found your marriage to Mary Evans 20 May 1821 at Roade. no29 if you need a copy. can't make out the spelling of surname on the film but one of the witnesses is a Daniel Sur**** (could be another brother) and a Mary Ship.


Newbottle
Looked at Christenings and Burieals 1783 - 1812
Looked at Marriages 1754 - 1812
Found nothing, no one named of Manning at all :confused:

So went and asked if they had any old maps of Northamptonshire just to check out to see if there was a place called NOBOTTLE. There its is a small hamlet near Daventry, Northamptonshire.

Regards Sandy

[Marie C..]

Many thanks, Sandy, for all that.
Sturdis(possibly could have been Sturgis before that) to Sturges to Sturgess. (great grandmother was Sturges on birth cert and Sturgess on marriage).Nice to have a christening date for William after so long and to know who his parents'were.
Thankyou.

[The Tank]

Hi Sandy

This is a kind thing you do. I have another Newbottle request if you'd be kind enough and don't mind getting wet again.

I'm trying to find the parents of my g-g-grandfather, John Vickers, according to the Stoke Lyne census for 1861 he born in Charlton, Northamptonshire (which I think comes under Newbottle) around 1816, although most of the subsequent census's have him over the border in Oxfordshire. The surname might have a different spelling of Viccars or Vicars.

Thanks a lot.

[Sandyhall]

Hi The Tank

I will have a look for you later on, its not raining here yet today.....

Sandy

[busyglen]

Sandy, may I please ask for a look-up sometime?

I have Thomas ROBBINS b. 1791 Brackley, Northants.
Spouse Mary GILES b.Brackley.

Thomas' father was Henry ROBBINS, b. c.1750.
Spouse Mary ?

I `assume' that Henry was born and married in Brackley, and would love to find out who his father/mother was, via the birth or marriage details.

The scant information has been given to me by another researcher, and the only thing I know for sure is that Thomas Robbins & Mary Giles moved to Buckinghamshire, where they had their children and eventually died.

There is no rush whatsoever Sandy as I will be away on holiday from Friday for a week, so I won't be around for a while, but your kind offer has given me hopes of going back another generation.

Thank you. :)

Glenys

[Sandyhall]

Glenys

Check back later to day

Sandy

[busyglen]

Will do Sandy.

Glenys

[Sandyhall]

Hi the Tank

The only christening of a Vickers in Newbottle I could find is Mary daughter of William and Martha Vickers, it looks like the date is 14 December 1813 but I am not sure about it also William is crossed out. Number 18 if you want a copy.
These are very bad films, I wonder why they bothered to film them as most of them are unreadable.

I will have a look in Banbury Library some time in the next week for Charlton.

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Glenys

Thomas Robbins Brackley Christening Aug 1792 Father Henry mother Mary. (can't make out the Date)

Also found these

Hannah Daughter of William and Hannah Robbins Private baptism 29 Sept 1779 received into the congregation 3 Nov 1776

Next all have Mother and Father Mary and Henry

William
27 Dec 1775 received into the congregation 19 Jan 1776.

Esther
31 May 1782

Ann
18 July 1785

Benjamin
8 March 1895

Rebecca
2 March 1797

And maybe a Catherine 9 June 1790 definitely Henry and Mary and Looks to me like Robbins but then I'm not to sure, some of them are pretty bad and that's a big gap between William 1775 and Esther 1782 which I couldn't read the films so there could be more.

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Glenys

Found these on IGI


William Robbins
Birth: About 1763 , , England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1775 , , England
Death:
Burial:
Hannah
Birth: About 1765 , , Englan
Christening:
Marriage: About 1775 , , England
Death:
Burial:
Children
1. Hannah Robbins
Birth:
Christening: 29 SEP 1776 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:
2. Elizabeth Robbins
Birth: Brackley, Northampton, England
Christening: 23 NOV 1778 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:
3. Sarah Robbins
Birth: 20 JUL 1785 Brackley, Northampton, England
Christening: 11 AUG 1785 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Glenys
Have you found this on the IGI. Most of it is the same as I found but some is different (* indicates ones I found)

Henry Robbins
Birth: About 1750 , , England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1774 , , England
Death:
Burial:

Mary
Birth: About 1750 , , England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1774 , , England
Death:
Burial:

Children
1. William Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 27 DEC 1775 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

2. Henry Robbins
Birth:
Christening: 27 OCT 1777 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

3. Rebecca Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 02 MAR 1797 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

4. Mary Robbins
Birth:
Christening: 26 SEP 1780 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

5. Esther Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 31 MAY 1782 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

6. John Robbins
Birth: 27 DEC 1784 Brackley, Northampton, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

7. Thomas Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 08 SEP 1786 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

8. Ann Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 18 JUL 1788 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

9. Catherine Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 23 JUN 1790 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:

10. Charles Robbins
Birth:
Christening: 17 AUG 1792 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial: 23 JAN 1839 Brackley, Northampton, England

11. Benjamin Robbins *
Birth:
Christening: 08 MAR 1795 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial: 17 AUG 1834 Brackley, Northampton, England

Sandy

[The Tank]

Hi the Tank

The only christening of a Vickers in Newbottle I could find is Mary daughter of William and Martha Vickers, it looks like the date is 14 December 1813 but I am not sure about it also William is crossed out. Number 18 if you want a copy.
These are very bad films, I wonder why they bothered to film them as most of them are unreadable.

I will have a look in Banbury Library some time in the next week for Charlton.

Sandy

Thanks a lot, it's very much appreciated.|wave|

[busyglen]

Sandy, you are brilliant!! |bowdown|

Thank you so much for finding these for me. To be honest, I had only got as far back as finding that Thomas & Mary had come from Northants. as I had been following the Robbins forward in Bucks. It was only the mention that you might be able to look at the Northants records, that jogged my memory.

If I had thought to look at IGI I may have been able to sort some of this out myself but that is the trouble with genealogy....you start off with one line, and then get side-lined and go onto something else!!

I really appreciate your help...you're a star! |hug|

Glenys

[Sandyhall]

Glenys

I will look to see if there is a marriage for Henry and Mary Robbins and William and Hannah Robbins as I think they could be brothers.
Have a nice Holiday.

Regards Sandy

[busyglen]

Thanks very much Sandy. That thought occurred to me also.

I realise that IGI can be a bit iffy sometimes, but at least it is a lead. The fact that you found those others in the PRs is a great help.

It doesn't look as if the weather is going to be great in Scotland, but the change will be good. We're going to the Edinburgh Tattoo next Monday, which we thoroughly enjoy, apart from visiting other places around.

Will catch up with you end of next week. :)

Regards

Glenys

[JuneB]

Hi Sandy,

I'm very excited about finding your offer because I have been stuck with my gg grandmother for sometime.

Mary Ann Howes was born in Brackley around 1825, and her father's name was William.

It would be wonderful if you could find her for me.

Many thanks

JuneB

[Sandyhall]

June B

I will look for you it will be some time next week.

Regards Sandy

[tony vines]

Hi Sandy

You were once very helpful to me via another forum so hello again. In this thread you refer to your local library having south Northants PRs. Do you know if there's another library that holds records for North Northants including villages north of Corby? If so do you have to enrol or can anyone use such libraries for this purpose?

Northants of course has its own records office. Is there any reason e.g. proximity or user-friendliness, why you might prefer to use the library rather than the LRO? I live in Hampshire so if I use of any of these facilities I would have to travel some distance, so an extra 10-20 miles would not affect my decision which to use.

I look forward to hearing from you.

[JuneB]

Thanks Sandy, that would be great.

JuneB

[Sandyhall]

June B

Where did your information come from as I can not find her in Brackley Parish Records. Howes is not a common name for Brackley, I've lived here for nearly 30 years only know of 1.

I also went to Banbury yesterday as I know the man from Oxfordshire History Society would be there and I could get him to help with lookups but he couldn't find anything either.
We couldn't find any Mary Ann Howes b abt 1825 on the 1841 Census for Northamptonshire or Oxfordshire, and none on any Parish Records for Oxfordshire.

I did however find this below on the IGI
Mary Ann House
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 MAY 1824 Brackley, Northampton, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: John House
Mother: Rebecca
But somehow I don't think this is her as father is John.

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

The Tank

I didn't have a very good day yesterday at Banbury looking for your John Vickers, all I found was a death 1878 Bicester Dec qtr age 63 Vol no 3a - Page no 467 - which could be him.

I have got the right one, I found him on 1841 Stoke Lyne Census age 25 at Fewcott Hamlet single
1851 Great Tew Census age 33 single
1861 Stoke Lyne Census age 45 married to Caroline and with children
1871 Somerton Oxfordshire Census age 55 married to Caroline and with children

There was a family of Vickers at Fewcott(now known as Fewcott cum Ardley or just Ardley on the Maps)
Father Thomas Mother Martha
Childrens christenings
Charlotte 28 Dec 1817
Elizabeth 9 April 1820
Ann 22 Sept 1822
Thomas 25 July 1824

also Jane 23 March 1834 Father Thomas Mother Hannah

the only christening in Charlton was a Elizabeth Vickers born 2 July 1703 christened 6 July 1703 Father Thomas Mother Elizabeth.

I will have a look at Hinton in the Hedges and Aynho to see if he is there

Sandy

[JuneB]

Hi Sandy,

Thankyou so much for looking.

Here is what I have on her

1841 census no luck

1851 census possibly HO107/1501/358 - Islington/Finsbury. Other members of the household were born in Brackley.

1851 December marries Charles John Poynter (Paynter on IGI) in Newport Pagnell, Bucks. Certificate states she was living in N P.- her father as William Howes, carpenter and one of the witneses was W Howes.

Later censuses she is living in Buckingham and gives here birthplace as Brackley.

She dies in 1886.

There are a few Howes families I have looked into with no luck yet - there is one in Byfield. I shall now try to trace the John/Rebecca House family you found.

She has been puzzling me for years |banghead|so I will be so grateful for any help!
Many thanks
JuneB

[Sandyhall]

Hi Sandy,

1851 census possibly HO107/1501/358 - Islington/Finsbury. Other members of the household were born in Brackley.



Can you give me the rest of the number for the census (Folio and Page No)
I have found them in the other census that you have but can't find 1851.

I noted that Charles John was a Town Crier and Mace Bearer in 1861 and 1871 Census in Buckingham, so thought perhaps Buckingham Library might have something about him, so gave them a ring, no such luck have to go to Aylesbury they have all the records, but they are on A to A if you want a look.

1841 Census could only find a Mary Howes age 35 at Brackly Grange, Halse which was a small hamlet but is now nearly joined to Brackley. Quite a few Howes in Aynho and some in Whittlebury which are villages near to Brackley.

Sandy

[JuneB]

In 1851 census she has been transcribed as Mary Ann Howse b Bradley. HO/107/1501/358/42.

But.... I am begining to think that the IGI entry you gave me is right and father's name on her marriage certificate is wrong.

There was only one Poynter family in Buckingham 1851-1891, and I know for certain that 4 of the births that FreeBMD throws up are hers. The others Sarah, REBECCA, & Emily all died young. So I suspect they are her children also and she named one after her mother!

There is also a William Howes b Brackley in the 1861 in Birmingham, with a daughter, Rebecca.

So its begining to fit!|jumphappy

Still can't find the family in Brackley in 1841 though.

JuneB

[Marilyn P]

Old Town Street, Brackley St Peter

John HOWE age 50 carpenter
Rebecca HOWE age 45
William HOWE age 7
all born Northants

Marilyn

[Marilyn P]

Brackley Old Town
John HOWES Head married 60 carpenter born Oxford, Heath
Rebecca wife married 58 lacemaker born Bucks, Shalstone
William son unm 18 born Northshire, Brackley

Marilyn

[JuneB]

Marilyn,

Thank you so much for that.

Now I just need to find Mary Ann....

JuneB

[The Tank]

Hi Sandy

When people say this genealogy stuff can be hard work, I never realised they meant for someone else, and yes, the John Vickers you mentioned is certainly the one in question.

I certainly appreciate all your efforts |hug| and at least I can see that the Vickers' were in Fewcott a generation before John and Caroline set up home there, and if there was family in the area it might account for them choosing that place as I know Caroline Lucas came from Little Compton.

[Sandyhall]

The Tank
Hi
I think I've found him John Vickers christening 24 Dec 1815 son of Thomas and Martha Vickers, Newbottle, Northamptonshire no 47 if you want to get a copy from the records office.

They must have then moved to Fewcott where they had the rest of the children.

Sandy

[The Tank]

|jumphappy Sandy, your a star |jumphappy

Thanks very much.|bowdown|

[The Tank]

Hi Sandy

Thanks to your efforts I've not only added the parents of John Vickers, Thomas and Martha Robinson - plus 5 generations of Robinsons back to 1630 - to my details but also William Vicars and Sarah Lock as the parents of Thomas and his 7 siblings in Brackley.

Could I impose on you again to see if you can identify any details of William and Sarah in Brackley prior to 1778 (the christening date given on the IGI for Thomas' oldest brother William). Also could you have a look at the entries around 1800 in Brackley as the IGI suddenly changes the spelling of the surname from Vicars to Vickers and I'm unsure if the change is in transcription or the register and if so have we been living a lie for the last 200 years - although I dare say its commonplace.

Once again, many thanks

[Sandyhall]

Hi Sandy

Thanks to your efforts I've not only added the parents of John Vickers, Thomas and Martha Robinson - plus 5 generations of Robinsons back to 1630 - to my details but also William Vicars and Sarah Lock as the parents of Thomas and his 7 siblings in Brackley.

Could I impose on you again to see if you can identify any details of William and Sarah in Brackley prior to 1778 (the christening date given on the IGI for Thomas' oldest brother William). Also could you have a look at the entries around 1800 in Brackley as the IGI suddenly changes the spelling of the surname from Vicars to Vickers and I'm unsure if the change is in transcription or the register and if so have we been living a lie for the last 200 years - although I dare say its commonplace.

Once again, many thanks

Hi
Glad to be of help will have a look sometime next week
sandy

[Sandyhall]

Hi

If there is anyone on this thread that I haven't got back to with an answer could you let me know and I'll sort it out for you if I can. I got a bit confused at one time and I've also lost some of the notes I'd made.

Sandy

[busyglen]

Glenys

I will look to see if there is a marriage for Henry and Mary Robbins and William and Hannah Robbins as I think they could be brothers.
Have a nice Holiday.

Regards Sandy

Hi Sandy,

You did mention the above, but I haven't pressed you on this. If you have a moment sometime (not urgent) the above info would be great.

Glenys

[Marie C..]

Get well soon Sandy .
Thank you for your help.
Marie

[Sue Mackay]

Sadly Sandy is having to take a bit of a break from the forum and will be unable to do lookups until further notice.

[busyglen]

Thanks for letting us know.

Sandy very kindly answered my query direct a couple of weeks ago.

I do hope Sandy makes a speedy recovery.

Glenys