HI FIRST TIME ME

[CHANGINMAN1]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME CONSIDERING THE INFO BELOW WHY THE ADDRESS OF JOSEPH FIELD MY GTGT GRANDFATHER WAS BUTLER ST STEPNEY LONDON AT THE TIME OF HIS WEDDING....SEE BELOW.. IF HE WAS BORN IN BIRMINGHAM ...WHATS THE LONDON CONNECTION....HELP

3. JOSEPH WILLIAM3 FIELD (GEORGE2, JOHN1) was born 07 Jul 1835 in Birmingham, and died 1890 in Kings Norton. He married SARAH ANN LANDEY 19 Nov 1860 in Spitalfields Christ church Stepney London., daughter of GEORGE LANDEY and ANN. She was born 25 Jan 1841 in Birmingham.

Notes for JOSEPH WILLIAM FIELD:
Joseph was christened on the 28 Sept 1835 St Martin's Birmingham.

In the 1851 census Joseph lived with his family in Birmingham his next door neighbour was his future wife Sarah Ann Landley.

In the 1861 census Joseph lived at Somerset St London the parish is St Botolph Without Aldgate.

In the 1871 census Joseph lived at Court 4 Breasley St Birmingham the parish is St Stephen.

[Geoffers]

Welcome to the British-Genealogy forums. I'm slightly beyond my first posting!


CAN SOMEONE TELL ME CONSIDERING THE INFO BELOW WHY THE ADDRESS OF JOSEPH FIELD MY GTGT GRANDFATHER WAS BUTLER ST STEPNEY LONDON AT THE TIME OF HIS WEDDING....SEE BELOW.. IF HE WAS BORN IN BIRMINGHAM ...WHATS THE LONDON CONNECTION....HELP

In the 1861 census Joseph lived at Somerset St London the parish is St Botolph Without Aldgate.

The usual reason for moving was work. As today, people then moved where there was money to be earned. Sometimes folks stayed where they had migrated. Sometimes they got homesick, just didn't like where they mahd moved, lost their job - and then they moved home.

What was your chap's occupation in 1861?

[CHANGINMAN1]

Hi he was a gunmaker......has it any relevance to Butler st which was on his marriage cert then ?

[Geoffers]

Hi he was a gunmaker......has it any relevance to Butler st which was on his marriage cert then ?

I thankfully don't know London, but a search of a directory and relating the information to street maps may show if this was an area connected with gunmaking. He had a skilled occupation and may well have been lured to the capital by the offer of higher paid work - but like many others thought twice about the place once he got there.

[John Nicholas]

Geoffers sounds plausible to me - but then he always does!!

You could try looking in mid 19th century trade directories for gun makers in the City and east London (Spitalfields is only just outside the City itself). Probably some are online. That might just give you an avenue to explore....

John

[John Nicholas]

I've just followed my own advice and looked up the Post Office Directory of London 1856, trade directory section, which I have on CD. East London was alive with gun makers and armourers at this time. There were many establishments in Leman St, Prescott St, and particularly Goodman's Fields. All these would have been close to St Botolph w/o Aldgate and within a good arrow shot of the Tower of London (which might have been significant for their origin). Incidentally, Goodman's Fields does not show on a modern A-Z of London, although the name survives as a pub on Mansell St and in various city planning & development documents.

Joseph Field would have had no trouble in finding employment in this area, I think. As for his return to Birmingham, apart from the reasons mentioned by Geoffers, I guess that the second city was beginning to get its industrial act together and moving into serious arms manufacture, perhaps on a much bigger scale than the craft-based London trade (that's a guess, I really don't know).

John