Ieeffe ?!?!

[maltonboy]

Has anybody ever come across this surname on their tree? if so, or even if not, does anybody have any idea on how to pronounce it?

i'm guessing its an irish name but unsure? :confused:

regards
maltonboy

[Geoffers]

Impossible to be definite without some context. Where have you found reference to the name and when? Could the first letter actually be a 'J'? Or the first two letters actually be a 'K'?

[Mutley]

Hello Maltonboy,

I am just adding the link to your other thread for you.
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?p=163807#post163807

Post 5 has a link so others can see exactly what this handwritten name looks like.

[Julie Tyrell]

I wondered if the 1st letter was actually a 'T'. Do you have any other letters to compare it against.

Julie

[maltonboy]

I wondered if the 1st letter was actually a 'T'. Do you have any other letters to compare it against.
Unfortunately not, well not capital T's anyway.

I was thinking perhaps L's but they loop the other way round at the top and loop at the bottom before straightening out.

Regards,
maltonboy

[Julie Tyrell]

Hi

Is the spelling of her father just as difficult to read??

Julie

[Jan1954]

Could it be ILEFFE?

[AnnB]

Could it be ILEFFE?
I think you are right Jan :) I have come across the name ILIFFE somewhere (though can't for the life of me think where!)

Best wishes
Ann

[maltonboy]

Is the spelling of her father just as difficult to read??
i have uploaded the father's names to photobucket http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll244/maltonboy/father.jpg. these should be a link to the couples' names http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll244/maltonboy/names.jpg & their "signatures" http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll244/maltonboy/signatures.jpg

any and all ideas are greatly appreciated.

regards
maltonboy

[Clive Blackaby]

The images you have posted are quite clearly either Ieeffe, or (at a modest pinch) Jeeffe. But some are apparently in the same hand, and may be transcripts??

Would it be possible to give us the details of the source to allow us to look at the whole document. Often by looking at other entries in an original document you can figure out e.g. "how does this guy write his 'J'?"
If, as I suspect, one of them is a transcript, someone here may have access to an earlier original. Maybe the transcriber couldn't (be bothered to?) figure out what the original script was, but there's hope yet!!

[maltonboy]

I believe it is a transcript, as it is from a marriage cert from the GRO. I have been in touch with Tower Hamlet registry office where the original is kept. It is from the marriage of Walter Samuel Augustus Gillard and Catherine Ieeffe (?) from St. Philips of Stepney, September 18th 1898.

If there is anybody who is going to registry office to look at the original any help would be greatly appreciated. I have phoned them and the lady i spoke to said it is definately an I but if somebody has a better understanding...

regards
maltonboy

[Julie Tyrell]

Are you still looking for the birth of Walter Gillard, as I stumbled across this one.

Samuel Walter A. Gillard
Year: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hendon (1837-1947)
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 135

Maybe, he preferrred to be known as Walter.

If the 1901 census for Catherine (with Harriet) is correct as it shows her as married, maybe this is Walter.

1901 census: Class: RG13; Piece: 449; Folio: 96; Page: 33.
Address: 3 Harley Street. Battersea, London

Walter Gillard (31) married (boarder) occupation Bus ......?? (born: Kilburn, London)

He appears to be living with a group of other chaps doing the same job.

Julie

[Geoffers]

any and all ideas are greatly appreciated.

Did they by any chance have any children whose birth certificates would either confirm the mother's maiden name, or clarify what was intended?

[busyglen]

The name couldn't be Heffe by any chance could it? On the second image that you posted, it looks a bit like a sprawling H (the I and the e). I did a quick Google search and there appears to be such a surname.

Just a thought.

Glenys

[harfin]

My money is on Jaffe. There are 4 FreeBMD entries for female births for this name in the 1870's.

Good luck
Alan

[maltonboy]

Did they by any chacne have any children whose birth certificates woudl either confirm the mother's maiden name, or clarify what was inteded?

i think they did in 1910, John Gillard; but it seems a long time after marriage. i thought i had his birth cert but when i've looked through my draw i couldn't find it! :mad:

The name couldn't be Heffe by any chance could it? On the second image that you posted, it looks a bit like a sprawling H (the I and the e). I did a quick Google search and there appears to be such a surname.

Just a thought.

Glenys

i have already thought about Heeffe but when you look at all three of them, name, signature spot and fathers' names, i start to think not.

My money is on Jaffe. There are 4 FreeBMD entries for female births for this name in the 1870's.

Good luck
Alan

I've done the search on that one and there are no Catherine's unfortunately!|doh| and there are no Jeeffe's.

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I am going to purchase John's birth cert and see where to go from there. i was hoping for Taaffe but hey ho....|computer| without purchasing loads of birth certs between 1898 and 1910 does anybody have any ideas on how to find out if they had any more children?

back to the drawing board.

regards
maltonboy

[pipsqueak]

I have jsut looked up the name in the actual GRO index and it clearly says "IEEFFE, Catherine..............Mile End 1c. 756". Sadly it doesn't come with a pronunciation guide...

[Peter_uk_can]

There is an Irish name "O'leeffe". If one listens to a strong Irish accent, the "O" can sound very much like an "I"

As in "oy'leaf".

[milliemoo]

I have Ieeffe in my family tree
Catherine Leeffe married Walter Samuel Gillard on 18 Sept 1898
her father was Peter Leeffe
I also have a Harriett Taaffe(Leeffe)married Thomas Diddams in 1910

DOWNES Family tree

[maltonboy]

I have Ieeffe in my family tree
Catherine Leeffe married Walter Samuel Gillard on 18 Sept 1898
her father was Peter Leeffe
I also have a Harriett Taaffe(Leeffe)married Thomas Diddams in 1910

DOWNES Family tree

Hi Milliemoo,

that does sound familiar and i have sent you a PM.

regards
maltonboy