Does anyone have the 1861 census... please?

[Lindad]

If so, please could you help?

I'm looking for the DENNIS family who lived in the village of Willingdon. I'd like to know the name and age of the head of the family. His spouse was Charlotte and she would have been 42 years old in 1861. At that time they would have had one son, Joseph, who would have been aged 5.

By 1871 Charlotte was a widow and, at the moment, I don't know her husband's firstname or her maiden name...

Any help will be very much appreciated!

[williamenigma]

Charles Dennis was the landlord of the Wheatsheaf pub in Church Street Willingdon from 1903 to 1908 ish.

The 1881 census reveals lots of Dennises born in Willingdon

[Lindad]

Thanks for this! It does seem that there are a lot of Dennis' around the Willingdon area. I'm not entirely sure who this Charles is... yet!

However, the family we really need to know about at this stage is the one, hopefully, on the 1861 census with a wife called Charlotte and a son called Joseph.

[Steve Steere]

Hi Lindad,

I believe your family are on RG 9, Piece 566, Folio 30b.
Private House, Willingdon.
Charlotte DENNESS, Head, Wid, 42, Laundress, Friston.
Thomas, Son, 23, Ag Lab, Folkington.
David, Son, 18, Ag Lab, Willingdon.
William, Son, 16, Ag Lab, Willingdon.
Frederick, Son, 11, Ag Lab, Willingdon.
Charles, Son, 8, Scholar, Willingdon.
Mary MANSER, Boarder, Wid, 80, Eastbourne.

Source Archive CD Books CD.
There are no others in Willingdon.

I checked the Sussex Marriage Index CD (Sussex FHG CD), but there are only two in the right period 1835+, and neither to a Charlotte named Manser, which may her maiden name. The two were:
John DINNIS & Charlotte SAMPSON, 28 Dec 1836 (also 27 Dec 1836 with variant SIMPSON on marriage licence) and Henry DENNIS & Charlotte COOK, 18 Jan 1836 Jevington.

Look like you need the 1851 which unfortunately I haven't got.
Good luck.

Steve

[Lindad]

You've been working hard on my behalf today, Steve! Many thanks - it is appreciated!

This certainly looks to be the family I am looking for on the 1861 - but I wonder why there is no mention of Joseph? He would have been aged 5 in 1861. Charlotte must have been married quite young to have children of that age.

As you say, it looks as though I will need the kind help of someone with the 1851...

[fizzy]

Have you considered the possiblity that Joseph died ? This is what has happened to some of my family where they are on one census but not the next or are born and die between censuses. If Charlotte's hubby is missing too perhaps father and son died of the same illness. My 5x gr grandad and his two eldest sons all died in the same quarter of the same year.

Fizzy

[Lindad]

Hi Fizzy

He can't have died... he's the great grandfather of the friend whose tree I'm researching!

The old guys just like to keep us all guessing...

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there

Have just come across your message.
According to the 1851 census:-

HO107/ 1637/ Folio 51/ Page 28 - Meachant, in the parish of Westham.

DENNIS Henry, Head, Marr, 44, Farmer of 13 acres, born Folkington
Charlotte, Wife, Marr, 33, born Friston
Thomas, Son, Unm, 13, born Folkington
Mary Ann, Dau, Unm, 10, born Willingdon
David, Son, Unm, 8, born Willingdon
William, Son, Unm, 6, born Willingdon
Ellen, Dau, Unm, 6, born Willingdon
George, Son, Unm, 1, born Willingdon

Hope the above is of help to you

Sorry, I just noticed someone else has answered this query - but Meachant I believe is an area rather than a house as follows:-
"All that part of the parish of Willingdon which lies to the west of the turnpike road leading from Eastbourne to Lewes including a portion of Willingdon Village, Butts, Dunns, Meachants, Terrys Cottages", etc.

[Lindad]

Hi Chris

Thanks so much! I really appreciate it when people look back to catch the threads they missed earlier.

Your find on the 1851 is really helpful as we now know that Henry died sometime between 1851 and 1861.

We've still got a way to go... but were getting there!

[Lindad]

Hi Chris

You're doing a sterling job in keeping track of all these Sussex posts! You're help is appreciated hugely!!

If you get a chance, is there any possibility you could have a look for this same family on the 1841 census? No rush...

With best wishes,

Linda

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Lindad

"You're doing a sterling job in keeping track of all these Sussex posts! You're help is appreciated hugely!!"

No problem, I enjoy doing it, plus it helps when you have lots of Archives on the computer.

Checked for your Dennis in the 40 odd pages of the 1841 for Willingdon based on Mary Ann who is 10 being born there - but not a single Dennis to be found.

So looked on the 1841 for Folkington, not so many pages this time at 14, and found the following

HO107/ 1115/ Schedule 5/ Page 20 - Folkington (sorry, no street name)
DENNIS Henry, 38, Farmer
......... Charlotte, 23
......... Thomas, 3
......... Mary Ann, 1

All born in the county of Sussex

So Mary Ann was born in Folkington, not Willingdon as stated on the 1851 census

[Chris in 1066Land]

Lindad

Wow - the 1841 for Folkington is rich with the Dennis family as follows:-

HO107/ 1115/ Schedule 3/ Page 16 - Folkington
DENNIS James, 52, Farmer
......... Sarah, 51
......... Barbara, 25
......... James, 14

HO107/ 1115/ Schedule 4/ Page 14 - Folkington
DENNIS John, 27, Ag Lab
........ Fanny, 30
........ William, 1

HO107/ 1115/ Schedule 6/ Page 21 - Folkington
DENNIS Rich?, 55, Ag Lab
......... Ann, 17
......... James, 15
......... Sofier, 13 (Sophia)

HO107/ 1115/ Schedule 5/ Page 19 - Folkington
DENNIS Edward, 58, Ag Lab
......... Amelia, 51
......... James, 14
......... William, 11
......... Sowesor?, 8 (female)
......... Harry, 4

EVERY ONE of the above were born in Sussex - so good possibility they are all related, especially in such a small village.
Hope that helps you build up a bigger picture

Chris

[Lindad]

Chris, that's brilliant! Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time you have taken to trawl through all those pages. I know it all takes time.

Yes, there are quite a few members of the Dennis family in that area... and I'm sure the ones that you have found on the 1841 are connected to the branch that we are researching.

I'm still trying to work out Charlotte's maiden name - and that is taking some doing... but at least I'm gradually narrowing down the date of Henry and Charlotte's marriage!

Thanks again!

Linda

[Chris in 1066Land]

Lindad

How does this grab you

Place: Jevington, East Sussex, Date: 18 Jan 1836:
Groom: Henry DENNIS, Folkington
Bride: Charlotte COOK,
Married by Banns

Hope you like

[Chris in 1066Land]

hi busyglen

Found a few more marriages of Dennis people in or around Folkington

Place: Folkington, East Sussex, Date: 10 Apr 1812:
Groom: James DENNIS, bachelor of this parish
Bride: Sarah JENNER, spinster of this parish
Married by Banns

Place: Folkington, East Sussex, Date: 18 Jun 1815:
Groom: John DENNIS
Bride: Harriet GOLDSMITH, of this parish
Married by Banns

Place: Eastbourne, East Sussex, Date: 15 Apr 1811:
Groom: Edward DENNIS, Folkington
Bride: Millicent BROWN, of this parish
Married by Banns
Extra Information: Witness; WmPARKS; Thos.HART

[Lindad]

Wow! |woohoo| Chris, you really are a star!

That's fantastic! Thank you!! |woohoo|

My friend (whose tree I'm working on!) will be thrilled to bits. |woohoo|

[Chris in 1066Land]

Lindad

Well, I guess you really liked that

Nice to be able to help you - you know how to find me if I can be of further assistance

Chris

[barbara Duckworth]

If so, please could you help?

I'm looking for the DENNIS family who lived in the village of Willingdon. I'd like to know the name and age of the head of the family. His spouse was Charlotte and she would have been 42 years old in 1861. At that time they would have had one son, Joseph, who would have been aged 5.

By 1871 Charlotte was a widow and, at the moment, I don't know her husband's firstname or her maiden name...

Any help will be very much appreciated!
Hi Linda,
I saw your query on this forum,my family are Manser's from Sussex and I have a seen a record of a Elizabeth Dennis marrying William Manser, he was married to Elizabeth Hyder first or the other way around, I can not verify this is my tree yet. Have you come across a Elizabeth Dennis marrying a Manser. The date of this marriage is 25 June 1765, I think
Kind regards
Barbara (nee Manser)

[Lindad]

Hi Barbara

I'm sorry, I've rather lost the plot with the Dennis'. They belong to a friend's tree rather than my own and I haven't worked on his for a while.

If I come up with anything, I'll let you know...

With best wishes,

Linda