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[Clevblue]

Hello everyone,
This is my first post on here, and I am hoping for a nudge in the right direction
I have tried for two days now in the parish registers (M/cr central library) to find the baptism of Thomas Clare, born1775.
His M.I. at Rostherne St Mary's reads "Thomas Clare of Mere died 1841 aged 63" but I cant find Thomas' birth. His sons were baptised in Bowdon and there is a possible marriage to a Mary Foden in Gt Budworth.
Does anybody have any ideas where to look next please? I suppose he could have come from anywhere!

Thanks
Peter Clare

[Peter Goodey]

I'd say you need to find the marriage next. Have you tried something like Bernard Merrell's index?

Is that the widow in the 1851 census born Altringham (sic)? But if it is, wouldn't that make the parish Bowden where you may already have looked?

The wife's parish is of course the likeliest place to search for a marriage.

[Clevblue]

Hello Peter
Thanks for reply, I have tried Bertram -Merrell, and it has a marriage between Thomas Clare and Mary Foden which fits, in 1807, but it's Grt Budworth, and I don't think thats likely somehow. I'm sure you are right about the marriage but I've looked for that too without success. I just wanted somebody to take a fresh look at it, you know. the Grt Budworth registers on film at the central library are almost illegible.
I'll just keep plugging away. Cheers anyway.

[uksearch]

If you were at MCL for the last two days, you must have seen me knocking about. If you get any poor quality films you should use one of the three readers that are located in the Archive reading room and Local Studies. The normal machines are 16 times mag, whereas these machines have 16 times (and they are much better than the others) 24 times and 48 times mag. The parish of Gt Budworth is not that far from the parish of Bowdon.

If you get any unreadable films, and the originals are in the Archive (not in this case) you can asked to view them Mon to Thurs 9 till 4.

UK

[Clevblue]

If you were at MCL for the last two days, you must have seen me knocking about. If you get any poor quality films you should use one of the three readers that are located in the Archive reading room and Local Studies. The normal machines are 16 times mag, whereas these machines have 16 times (and they are much better than the others) 24 times and 48 times mag. The parish of Gt Budworth is not that far from the parish of Bowdon.

If you get any unreadable films, and the originals are in the Archive (not in this case) you can asked to view them Mon to Thurs 9 till 4.

UK

Thanks for the advice, I've always loved central library, I used to go there as a kid on a saturday morning, just for fun, I'd get the 76 bus from Newton Heath. I can't get there as often now, only about once a month as I live in Cleveleys
Where is the archive reading room then? I thought I was in local studies, just down the corridor in the Poetry and literature section.
I know Great Budworth is just the other side of Tabley, and in the absence of anything else, I will have to go with that, I just wanted to try everything else possible. Can you suggest any other registers I could try apart from Rostherne,Bowdon St Mary's and Hale? I am sure they were CofE and pretty strictly so, all the family later were 'Churched' at Warrington St Elphin, they didn't seem to deviate at all from the CofE path.
anyway thanks for the help

[uksearch]

When you go to the Local Studies Unit on the first floor (that is to the left), the Archive reading room is to the right in the same room. The Microfilm Unit is further down the corridor adjacent to the Language & Literature Library.

Check out the film collection on

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=464

If you haven’t already done so, I would check GENUKI for other possible Cheshire parishes to search.

UK

[Clevblue]

Got That, Thanks very much

[MythicalMarian]

Hi Peter - you could try Knutsford too. I have a Mere chap who used Knutsford St. John, although he is a bit earlier than your period. Have you tried places like Over and Tabley? Having trawled through Cheshire parishes myself over the years, I know how slow it can be, and as you say, some of the MFs at MCL are abysmal - Bowdon is one of 'em - especially for the early 18th century. I wonder if there is any plan to re-film these PRs? (UKSearch...?) Although the period you are looking for should be OK. Also, if there is a link to Bowdon and Altrincham, I am not sure whether Carrington Chapelry has separate registers for this period. Certainly many Bowdon folk used the C of E chapel at Carrington, but the registers may well have been incorporated into the Bowdon PRs for your period. There's Ashton-upon-Mersey too - I certainly have a branch in AOM who used that church for burials but actually attended Bowdon parish church for services!

Although it's a chore, I'd start with Rostherne and work outwards.

But a word of warning. Being 'of Mere' on his MI does not necessarily mean your man was actually born there; it just meant he was a regular in the parish/township when he shuffled off this mortal coil.

Hope this helps - but as I'm a bit late in this thread, you may have already cracked it. :)

[Clevblue]

Thanks for you helpful suggestions, I had looked in Rostherne-but not hard enough! Your other suggested locations will help me carry on though. Thanks to all

[bettyespana]

Hello everyone,
This is my first post on here, and I am hoping for a nudge in the right direction
I have tried for two days now in the parish registers (M/cr central library) to find the baptism of Thomas Clare, born1775.
His M.I. at Rostherne St Mary's reads "Thomas Clare of Mere died 1841 aged 63" but I cant find Thomas' birth. His sons were baptised in Bowdon and there is a possible marriage to a Mary Foden in Gt Budworth.
Does anybody have any ideas where to look next please? I suppose he could have come from anywhere!

Thanks
Peter Clare

Hello Peter,

I have Clare's in my husbands tree ,however not a Thomas Clare.They may be in the same family of Clare's as yours I don't know but both were born Stockport. James Clare a Tailor was b.6 Feb 1795 & married a Alice Simpson in Grappenhall Cheshire in Dec 1817.
Then there is his father Joseph Clare c.1768 Stockport Cheshire who married a Frances Kirk in Derbyshire April 1786.

Maybe of help to you,in this game you find there can be numerous possibilities.

Best Wishes & Good Luck

Betty

[bettyespana]

Thanks for the advice, I've always loved central library, I used to go there as a kid on a saturday morning, just for fun, I'd get the 76 bus from Newton Heath. I can't get there as often now, only about once a month as I live in Cleveleys
Where is the archive reading room then? I thought I was in local studies, just down the corridor in the Poetry and literature section.
I know Great Budworth is just the other side of Tabley, and in the absence of anything else, I will have to go with that, I just wanted to try everything else possible. Can you suggest any other registers I could try apart from Rostherne,Bowdon St Mary's and Hale? I am sure they were CofE and pretty strictly so, all the family later were 'Churched' at Warrington St Elphin, they didn't seem to deviate at all from the CofE path.
anyway thanks for the help

Interesting to see the family were Churched at Warrington.I have just been looking on Family Search(LDS) & there are Thomas Clare's on there around 1775 b.Warrington,Lancs.
Might be worth looking at

Good Luck
Betty

[Clevblue]

Thank you Betty from Spain! It's very sunny here in Blackpool today! :)

A branch of my Clares ended up in Stockport, but there wasn't a Joseph, but I dont have any siblings yet for Thomas b 1775, so anything can happen when I do find some. I will keep a note of your message for reference

Thanks again for taking an interest

Best wishes

Peter