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Can anyone help?
John Smith was a Farmer on "The Park Farm" circa 1871, he had his sister Elizabeth (house keeper) and brother Robert (Annuitant) with him. I am trying to confirm that their parents were John and Mary Smith.
What is throwing me is that it is just that I cannot find out what happened to John and Mary Smith between 1841 and 1871.
Oh and is The Park Farm still around?
Any information will be greatly appreciated.
10-04-2008, 7:37 PM
Do you have the 1871 census reference or, failing that, approximate birth years and place of birth for these folk?
I have the dreaded "John Smiths" in my tree and they can be a nightmare to follow without a few more clues.
10-04-2008, 8:32 PM
Found the son John in 1871 and 1881, both times living at Park Farm.
1871: they are the children of Elizabeth Smith, 67, head, widow, farmer of 215 acres employing 3 men and one boy.
Going back 10 years to 1861, Elizabeth is still recorded as a widow.
So, in 1851, the father is identified as Samuel, aged 52 and farmer of 300 acres.
Robert is recorded as an idiot in 1871 but as a lunatic in 1881. It's only in 1881 that he is recorded as an annuitant. Now, as the farm was fairly substantial, there may be a will that awards Robert the annuity, especially as Elizabeth has died by then.
So, are Samuel and Elizabeth the parents that you are looking for or are we looking for John and Mary Smith?
10-04-2008, 8:51 PM
Well, it looks like it still exists, but not as a farm any more:
It is currently occupied by a Joinery company. Will PM you other details.
Thanks for your help Jan1945 but I might very well be barking up the wrong tree. I was looking for John and Mary.
My Smiths are: 1841 John Smith 40 Groom
Mary Smith 35
Emma (b. 12 July 1831 Lowestoft) Married John Hufton
John (b. 4 July 1833 Lowestoft)
Thought it was a coincidence having John, Robert, and Elizabeth living on the farm together.
Does this make any sense to you?
11-04-2008, 4:02 PM
This looks like your family in the 1851 census of Lowestoft:
HO107/1805, folio 295, page 30
John SMITH Head Mar 52 Grocer Wrentham
Mary do Wife Mar 46 Norfolk B?
Emma do Daur U 19 At home Suffolk Lowestoft
Elizebth do Daur 14 do do do
Robert do Son 13 Grocer do do
Sarah do Daur 10 Scholar do do
And in the 1861 census of Lowestoft:
RG9/1187, folio 106, page 17
28 Mariners St
John SMITH Head Mar 62 Grocer & Draper Norfolk Burgh Apton Deaf
Mary do Wife Mar 56 Suffolk Wrentham
Emma do Daur Unm 29 Assistant do Lowestoft
Frederick do Visitor Grandson 1 Norfolk Wymondham
George DAY Lodger Widr 73 Cabinet Maker Suffolk Felixstow
Mary is shown as a widowed Grocer & Draper in the 1871 census of Lowestoft living at 29 Mariners St and in the 1881 census of Wymondham, Norfolk she is living with son John R Smith, aged 45?, born Lowestoft, a Grocer & Draper & 4 assts and a Brickmaker employing 3 men and his family living at Town Green.
Thanks very much Janet for putting the time in, very helpful and much appreciated.
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