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[a.r.hughes]

looking for ivan lloyd/evan lloyd dob abt 1698 /death abt`1786 in cwm bychan , harlech any help please [ tony.]

[John Nicholas]

Tony,

There are some entries on IGI, but they're member-submitted stuff so you need to be cautious. They have an Evan Lloyd born 1700 in Cwm Bychan to Edward Lloyd and Dorothy Evans. Married about 1720 to Dorothy Jones and died in 1785 at Cae Coch, Trawsfynydd.

You didn't say where your information came from (always a good idea on this forum) but it seems that you need to look at some church records to see whether any of this IGI stuff stacks up.

John

[a.r.hughes]

JOHN, THE INFO I HAVE IS OFF A F/TREE ,AND I AM NOT ABLE TO IT STATES HE WAS CONNECTED .TO THE FAMILY OF EDMUND PRYS 1544 TO 1625 MAENTWROG, MERIONETH. DESCENDANTS OF DAFYDD AB IFAN AB EINION.CONSTABL E OF HARLECH CASTLE. FROM 1440 TO1468

[Barmouth]

looking for ivan lloyd/evan lloyd dob abt 1698 /death abt`1786 in cwm bychan , harlech any help please [ tony.]
Hi,
I live in Barmouth, work in Dolgellau, close to the archives, Harlech is a few miles away, if you need any look-ups, let me know.

regards
Linda

[a.r.hughes]

hi linda,
could you please do a look up for me in your area on a evan lloyd b abt 1700 in cwm bychan i need his marriage as the info i have states he married into the prys family.
i am also looking for a owen manuel dob abt 1805/1878 need parents details for owen he was born in llanfrothen these 2 people are in f/tree which goes back to the PULESTON LINE 1384 if correct i will be very gratefull any info if you find any.many thanks|help|
TONY|banghead|

[Barmouth]

hi linda,
could you please do a look up for me in your area on a evan lloyd b abt 1700 in cwm bychan i need his marriage as the info i have states he married into the prys family.
i am also looking for a owen manuel dob abt 1805/1878 need parents details for owen he was born in llanfrothen these 2 people are in f/tree which goes back to the PULESTON LINE 1384 if correct i will be very gratefull any info if you find any.many thanks|help|
TONY|banghead|
Hi Tony,
Firstly this information is from a book written locally by the WI. I did start to look at records then lost the will to live :) Not really I will try to get into the archives again next week.
re: The Lloyd (Llwyd) family
It would seem that your Ifan Llwyd (1698 - 1767) Cwm Bychan. married twice
1) Dorothy Jones (1699 - 1767)
2) Anne Richards m. Ifan Llwyd in 1768. no sign of Prys, however, the staff member(Gwen) tells me that she thinks that is wrong, she questioned Anne's surname and said she thought it was Prys, now it could be that Anne had been married previously prior to marrying Ifan as he must have been 60 when they married so it is a possibility.
The staff at the archives groaned silently when I told them what I was looking for :( This family as you are probably aware are very well documented but in this case it doesn't make them easier to find, in fact it makes it more difficult as there are so many branches.
I acquired a copy of this family tree from Ifan down which, if you dont have it already, I will willingly scan and email to you.
Ifan's predecessors are where (I am told) it gets tricky.
regards
Linda

[a.r.hughes]

hi,linda
many thanks for the info/and help on lloyd family .i would be very gratefull for a copy of this family tree that you have, as the details i have are not very clear .also in my info is owen manuel 1805/1878 abt i am not very good with pc please excuse for errors once again many thanks:)here is my email address iona.toni@hotmail. co.uk

[Barmouth]

Hi Tony, not sure if you saw this or not, I posted it last Thursday on your Owen Manuel query, Maybe have chance to nip into Dol archives later and will see if I can get a copy of his baptism etc.
Regards
Linda

Hi Tony,
Not what you wanted but I hope of some help.
from Llandecwyn Parish records, P.20 (Dolgellau Archives).
Parish of Llandecwyn.
Owen Manuel of Maentwrog married Jane Jones of Llandecwyn on the 8th August 1835.
by Banns.

Manuel children

Mary Manuel 14th Feb 1836 Gelli grin P.33
Elizabeth Owen Manuel 29th April 1837 Ty'r Turnpike P.35
Edward Jones Manuel 5th April 1840 Ty'r Turnpike P.37
Morris Owen Manuel 14th August Turnpike P.39 Owen Manuel is listed as labourer at the time of all 4 births.
I have copies of all the above if you want them


There are a Jane Owen Manuel (1844) and Gwen Owen Manuel (1847) found on the BMD


Owen Manuel died in Deudraeth 1878 and Jane Manuel nee Jones died Ffestiniog 1891.

I will return to look for Owen Manuel's birth registration as soon as I can
regards
Linda

[a.r.hughes]

hi linda, many thanks for your help could i please have a copy of f/t on the above,i do have a i could send to you but do not have your mailing address
not sure if allowed, also tree ihave not sure about may be you could have a look
many thanks for info on manuel query.
thanks TONY.

[a.r.hughes]

HI LINDA, CORRECTION S/B TREE ON LLOYD/LLEWD FAMILY 1698/1786
THANKS TONY

[a.r.hughes]

hi linda. may ihave a copy of fam/tree from ifan down is it possible you could scan and email to me thanks sorry not been touch before due to ilness in family .have anice bank hol . tony

[kaya]

Hi Tony
Are you still looking for information on Evan Lloyd of Cwmbychan b.1698 d. 1785. He had three wives.

Hi Linda
I read that you live in Dolgellau -is that close to Cwmbychan, I live in Australia. Is Nannau close as well.

[Barmouth]

Hi Linda
I read that you live in Dolgellau -is that close to Cwmbychan, I live in Australia. Is Nannau close as well.

Hi Kaya,
I live in Barmouth about 10 miles from Dolgellau and Nannau is about 4 miles from Dol :)

I have copies of the Merioneth Parishes and the later Lloyd family tree if you would like a copy??

regards

Linda

[kaya]

Hi Linda,
Loved to have a copy of the Lloyd's of Cwmbychan family tree, got a lot of dead leaves on my branches, so how do we go about it? I'm from the old school, a beginner. Which branch do you belong? I'm from John Lloyd of Cwmbychan, g g greatfather, g grandfather Lewis, grandfather Albert Lloyd North Queensland, Australia. I will be in London in December, going over to Europ for two weeks, so what will the weather like about that time? Its the beginning of winter here, and gitting cold. A few of my cousins have been to Cwmbychan, they advise me not to go to Cwmbychan no later then September. Regards Kaya

[kaya]

Hi Tony,
I have some information about Evan Lloyd d 1785. Married a Ann Prys 26th Octb 1720, dau of Robert Prys. b. 1697 d. 1743. Wife 2. Dorothy Jones b. 1699. d. 1767. wife 3. Anne ? She mey have been a Richard married Evan in 1768. Looks like he didn't waste time. I hope this might help.
Regards kaya

[a.r.hughes]

hi,kaya do you have the records in print please,i would be most gratefull
thanks tony

[kaya]

Hi Tony, Found Edmund Prys second wife Gwen- dau Morgan ap Lewis pf Pengwern - his first wife cousin
Regards Kaya

[kaya]

Can anyone help,
Went to the library found a book called Owain Glyndwr's Way by Richard Sale. On one of the pages it talks about a Lloyd family. Track passes north of Dolobran Hall, home of the local family of Lloyd's whose small banking business has grown into a household name. The Lloyds were Quakers. and east of the hall is the QuaKers meeting hall. William Penn preached before leaving for America and founding Pennsylvania. Which Lloyd family is he talking about in his book?

G

[kaya]

Hi Linda, Can you please help, who is Hywel (alias Hugh) Nanney m. Elen dau of Robert Salusebury w2 Lowry dau of Willeam ap Gruffydd.Then his son Robert Hughes (alias Hywel) siblings Gryffydd Nanny, Lewis Gwyn, Dafydd Llwyd. Now this Robert married Anne dau of Rhydderch ap Rhys goes on down the line. Then his son Dafydd Llwyd, married Marsli, dau of John Wyn ap Thomas. Then his son Edward Dafydd Lloyd d. 1636/7Cwmbychan, married Catherine. 2w Gwenllian. Who is before, and where do they fit in the F/ tree. Thank you very much for your help so far much appreciated. My mother's generation have all gone, the last died last year. I'm the next generation, one of the Lloyds have come to the end of the line. Many thanks Kaya

[Barmouth]

Hi Kaya,
I am really sorry, I can't help. The Lloyds are not my family, I just did a little research in the Dolgellau Archives for Tony trying to find some info for him. If you have a specific query about any local families, I can try to get in and find stuff for you :)
Good Luck
linda

[kaya]

Hi Linda,
No I'm sorry, but you have helped me in so many way, I wish to thank you but I hope we can still chat
Many thank
Kaya

[Waitabit]

This has been a rewarding thread to watch, as often people think Wales a difficult place to research. Good stuff Linda.

Kaya, perhaps you could start a thread of your own on some of these people you've mentioned, they will get more notice that way. Use a different Title tho' or it will be confused with Tonys'.

[elunedllwyd]

Hi Kaya, Was browsing Lloyd/Llwyd Cwm Bychan-Nannau,came across this site. My mother was the last in her branch of the Lloyds of Cwm Bychan. I've been researching for some years on and off! I have a geneology through the male line with references. The first Lord of Nannau was Cadwgan Prince of Powys, his father was Bleddyn ap Cynfyn Prince of Powys/Deheubarth. The Llwyds/Lloyds of Cwm Bychan directly descended from this family. Names often have different spellings or change in time! Howel (Hywel) Lloyd was the son of Dafydd Llwyd (the first at Cwm Bychan) in direct descendancy. The Hywel Nanney you mention may belong to another branch of the Nannau family.The last Lloyd of Cwm Bychan John Lloyd 1826-1911, sold Cwm Bychan 1886.He emigrated to Kansas,some Lloyds left for countries around the world including Australia. Miners. Lloyds had connection to Glyndwr.Hope this snapshot is helpful. Can be very confusing and easy to be sidetracked when researching. A lot of nonsense written too!! Hope to hear from you. Mary

[elunedllwyd]

Hi Tony, Evan Lloyd (Cwm Bychan) c.1700-1785 married Ann Prys in 1720. His first of 3 wives. She was daughter of Robert Prys of Gerrdi Bluog, she was baptised at Llanfair in May 1697, she descended on mothers side from Edmund Prys, archdeacon of Merioneth in the reign of Elizabeth 1, one of Wales great literay figures.
Evan Lloyd is written about in Pennants 'tours of Wales'. Ann Prys info from Lewis Lloyds 'The last Lloyd of Cwm Bychan'
How are you connected? My mother was the last in her branch of the Lloyds.
Regards Mary.

[dcb_nwh]

I have been looking at the Nanney family and Lloyds of Dolobran, if you are still looking.

David

[elunedllwyd]

Hi David,
I don't think the Lloyds of Dolobran were related to my Lloyds of Cwm Bychan- they were descended from the Nannau family however. I guess the Nanney's you're looking at? If you want to discuss please drop me a msg.
Mary.