Rob H.

[Rob H]

Retired Chalkie from Australia.:D
Researching in Cornwall UK : COOMBE, KEEN, DINGLE.
Researching in England UK : TAYLOR, HOLMAN, CHANTRILL, CUPITT,RUTTER, GILBERT.
Researching in Ireland UK : REIDY, PARKER, WOODS, DERMODY, GWYNN.
Researching in France : GRAVOLIN a "dit" name from Gravelines, BAUDREALT, JUILLET dit AVIGNON, SCHEUL. (Gravolin line goes from France to Canada to New Zealand to Australia) |5cups|
Researching in Australia : All the above plus many many more :confused:

[Bo Peep]

|wave|Hello Rob and welcome to the Brit-Gen community. I am delighted you have joined us and hope you will get lots of help with your research queries.

[arthurk]

Hi Rob

Whereabouts were your RUTTER family from? It's one of my names of interest, mainly from the North Riding of Yorkshire, but with forays into the West Riding and Co. Durham.

Arthur

[GeoffD]

I have recently come into possession of a considerable amount of info about the RETTER (RUTTER variant) name form East Devon.

KEEN - I have a Richard KEEN (b. 1844, Penzance) as a spouse of Susan DREW, but they moved to Surrey somewhere around 1865-66.

(Note: Richard might NOT have been born in Penzance.)

[Rob H]

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Thank you for the big welcome and the help in getting started.

[Rob H]

Hi Rob

Whereabouts were your RUTTER family from? It's one of my names of interest, mainly from the North Riding of Yorkshire, but with forays into the West Riding and Co. Durham.

Arthur

Hi Arthur,
My RUTTER connection is in Australia when David Jacob RUTTER married Annie Agnes HOLMAN in Windsor NSW on 27 Jun 1866.
This RUTTER tree has been traced back to James RUTTER born about 1718. He married an Elizabeth ? in Kingaston Cambridgeshire England UK 1740
Of interest is the WHITBY family:
Robert RUTTER born 02 Jun 1816 Barrington Toft Cambridgeshire UK married Elizabeth WHITBY born 1822 Harlton Cambridgeshire England UK on 16 Mar 1839 at Harlton. This pair emigrated to Australia. This Whitby name bas been traced back to David WHITBY b.1795 and Charlotte HURLOCK b.1797 and married Whittlesford Cambridgeshire London UK 25 Dec 1817.
Then I have |banghead|

[Rob H]

I have recently come into possession of a considerable amount of info about the RETTER (RUTTER variant) name form East Devon.

KEEN - I have a Richard KEEN (b. 1844, Penzance) as a spouse of Susan DREW, but they moved to Surrey somewhere around 1865-66.

(Note: Richard might NOT have been born in Penzance.)

Hi Geoff,
My KEEN link is where Harriet Adelaide KEEN b. 15 Aug 1864 ? in South Australia married Edward John COOMBE b. 11 Nov 1855 Hope Valley South Australia married ? South Australia and had 7 children one of whom is my maternal grandfather. ( I must trace down the birth place of Harriet and the wedding)
Harriet's parents are :
Samuel KEEN b. 05 Dec 1818 Sth. Molton Devon England d. 21 Jun 1871 Port Elliot South Australia and Sally INGERSON b. 10 Jan 1821 Barnstable Devon England d. 20 Feb 1906 Brompton South Australia married 06 Sep 1852 06 Sep 1852 and emigrated to Australia.
The Grandfather George KEEN |banghead| was lost at sea off Africa in 1823 and was married to Prudence ? This resulted in Samuel and his mother ending up in the poor house. I have a large story about his rise to fame a s a minister of religion.
The Granfather William INGERSON b. 1794 ? d. 1876 ? was married to Leticia SKINNER B.? d,? married Mar 1819 ??? |banghead|

[arthurk]

Hi Rob

I don't think we'll have a RUTTER connection, but what about KEEN? If you've got any further back than George who was lost at sea, do you by any chance know of a John KEEN who married Elizabeth ASKEW at St Luke Old Street (London) in 1773? John was later a mariner on board the "Richmond", and I have his will proved 1782.

My connection is that his widow later married a James METCALF, and I am descended from their daughter Phebe. I've written a bit more about this family in my blog - here (http://family-tree.co.uk/familyblogs/arthurk/2007/09/02/james-metcalf-father-of-phebe-b-1784/).

Arthur

[samgibbons56]

Hi,
Sorry to hijack, I have a slight connection to John William Rutter Ormesby,NRY
any connection at all?
Sam

[arthurk]

Hi Sam

That sounds more like one of mine - I have a John RUTTER b 1858 in Ormesby, one of 12 children of John RUTTER and Hannah MENNILE. Is that him?

Arthur

[samgibbons56]

Hi Arthur,
The John in question was probably born about 1880, he married my gr/gr grandmother Elizabeth Ann Robinson (nee Allison) in 1911, he was what we would now call her toy boy and was step-dad to my grandfather and his siblings. I know that he and Elizabeth Ann had 3 children, the older 2 born at North Ormesby the youngest is still alive today. If there is any connection I can put you in touch with a direct descendant if you like.
Regards
Sam

Hi Sam

That sounds more like one of mine - I have a John RUTTER b 1858 in Ormesby, one of 12 children of John RUTTER and Hannah MENNILE. Is that him?

Arthur

[Rob H]

Thank you Arthur,
Like Geroge KEEN, I am lost at sea!
Any help would be appreciated.
Rob.

[arthurk]

Thank you Arthur,
Like Geroge KEEN, I am lost at sea!
Any help would be appreciated.
Rob.

Unfortunately I don't think I can help you much. I see you've looked at my blog, and there isn't really any more to tell at present.

So, if anyone else is looking at this thread a few weeks/months/years from now and has an answer for either of us - get in touch!

Arthur

[arthurk]

Hi Arthur,
The John in question was probably born about 1880, he married my gr/gr grandmother Elizabeth Ann Robinson (nee Allison) in 1911...

I can't see any obvious candidate in my tree, though from memory, I've a feeling there may have been another Rutter family in Ormesby as well as mine. Mine weren't particularly eminent - coachmen and other "in service" kind of jobs - whereas the others were rather wealthier. (If they existed, that is - I may be getting totally mixed up with some other family.)

Arthur

[Robyn Wymer]

Retired Chalkie from Australia.:D
Researching in Cornwall UK : COOMBE, KEEN, DINGLE.
Researching in England UK : TAYLOR, HOLMAN, CHANTRILL, CUPITT,RUTTER, GILBERT.
Researching in Ireland UK : REIDY, PARKER, WOODS, DERMODY, GWYNN.
Researching in France : GRAVOLIN a "dit" name from Gravelines, BAUDREALT, JUILLET dit AVIGNON, SCHEUL. (Gravolin line goes from France to Canada to New Zealand to Australia) |5cups|
Researching in Australia : All the above plus many many more :confused:
Hi there . I have Reidy, Taylor and Cody in my mothers family tree here in Australia. I was also contacted by a R Holman who was looking for the Reidy family. Please let me know what you are looking for exactly. Cheers Rob

[Rob H]

Hi Robyn,
I most likely have traded data with you previously.
I am just fishing to push back the brick wall.
My TAYLOR family is from South Australia having emigrated from Torquay England UK.
M REIDY family are from Crookwell NSW and they emigrated from Tulligmacthomas Limerick Ireland UK. John REIDY born 1796 is my limit.
Patrick John REIDY and Maria DERMODY emigrated to Australia on the Ocean Empress.
Anastasia (Annie) Mary REIDY married Thomas PARKER at Crookwell 01 Sep 1886. My wife has her confirmation cross.
Cheers,
Rob H.

[alanjohn]

Where are you looking for Gilbert's?

[ChristineR]

Hi Geoff,
My KEEN link is where Harriet Adelaide KEEN b. 15 Aug 1864 ? in South Australia married Edward John COOMBE b. 11 Nov 1855 Hope Valley South Australia married ? South Australia and had 7 children one of whom is my maternal grandfather. ( I must trace down the birth place of Harriet and the wedding).....snip ..

Harriet Adelaide was born 15 Aug 1864, Auburn, South Australia
district Clar, Book 32, Page 249
Six other children born before her, mostly Gawler River and one at Adelaide. One place not recorded, but Adelaide district 1853.
Do you need those details?

South Australian Marriages
Edward John COOMBE, 32, widower, father Samuel COOMBE
Harriet Adelaide KEEN, 23, Spinster, father Samuel KEEN
Date: 1887-12-22
Place: Res of Joseph Ashton, Hindmarsh
District: Hin Book/Page: 153/799

ChristineR :)

[Rob H]

I am looking for my Gilbert heritage. So far I have William Gilbert
1705 - there is a Parish record of William being married to Ann STEVENS when he was 21.
1742 - age 58 on marriage to wife Grace.
1764 - writes will and states occupation as Bricklayer.
His will names :
his wife Grace, to whom he confirms marriage settlement of the house and premises he occupied as well as all goods, chattels and household possessions.
his sons - Thomas and John Gilbert to whom he leaves two properties which he has rented out and appoints them as executors.
Other son Jeffery Gilbert (from first marriage born abt 1707?), grandson William Gilbert and son in law(stepson) Samuel Stephens - they were left one shilling each. Possibility that naming them in will meant that the individuals concerned could not contest the will on the grounds of William's true intentions.
Will proved 17/1/1767.
1767 - age 83 burial record. Tenterden Kent.
Marriage to Grace Walter St Mildred Tenterden Kent England UK 22 Apr 1742.

John GILBERT b. 27-6-1775 with wife Mary FOWLER b. 1793 , married 20-6-1814 emigrated to Australia.
On 22 Januarry 1839 John Gilbert and family sailed from Plymouth on board "Roxburgh Castle" with the children as "Bounty Immigrants" and the adults paying full passage being too old. After rounding the Cape of Good Hope John died as did Sarah Anne aged 1 year and 8 months. Son Thomas Gilbert was also on board "Roxburgh Castle" with his family and lost his son Owen at sea. They were paid £18 bounty for each child that died in transit. The ship arrived at Sydney Cove 26th May 1839. All the Gilberts, could read and write except the youngest and all were Wesleyan Methodists.
The Gilbert's ended up settling around the Newcastle region NSW