Marginal comments

[jeanettemarie]

I have today been at the local lds searching through the parish register for Donegal, in the margin for some of the entries it gave the marriage details for the child who had been baptised, obviosly added later, on others it said conditional, Does anyone know what this refers to
Jeanette

[suedent]

A Conditional baptism can mean that either the parents are unsure whether the child had been baptized previously or it can refer to someone who has been baptized Anglican and then is re-baptized in a Catholic Church.

[jeanettemarie]

thanks Suedent, but doesnt it seem strange that the parents wouldnt know if their child had been baptised or not,:confused: Being re baptised into the church of a different religion I can understand

[Alan Welsford]

thanks Suedent, but doesn't it seem strange that the parents wouldn't know if their child had been baptised or not,:confused: Being re baptised into the church of a different religion I can understand

In the parish register for St Leonards, Bucks that I was looking at the other day, a baptism was annotated to say that it had been carried out by mistake, and it had later emerged that the child was already baptised.

I didn't actually realise there was a "problem" with multiple baptisms.

My great great grandmother Sarah GUNNS produced a daughter Alice some 4 years before she married my great great grandfather John HURRELL. Alice was baptised near birth, in her local parish in Mundham, Norfolk, but then again at Hellington, Norfolk some 3 years after her mother had married.
Even second time around her mother was recorded as "Sarah Gunns, afterwards Hurrell (Single woman)". My assumption is it was not John HURRELL's child, and I've no idea of the rationale for a second baptism.

Can anyone explain why it might have been carried out, please ?

Alan

Edited to say....

Oops, I hadn't spotted this was in the Catholic records forum. My comments and questions obviously don't relate to Roman Catholic. I should have looked more closely. Sorry

[Jan1954]

Alan,

I have no idea either as to why it happened. :confused:

I have William Ludbrook who was first baptised 21 Jan 1797 in Peasenhall, Suffolk and again in Peasenhall on 25 Apr 1803 with a whole clutch of siblings.

[Mutley]

I was surprised to find if you google 'conditional baptism' quite a lot of entries appear.
Loads of bedtime reading here.... Maybe we won't see you for a couple of weeks .... ;)

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/churchrecs.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_baptism

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Conditional Baptism
http://www.cofe.anglican.org/worship/liturgy/commonworship/texts/initiation/presedinit/baptismnotes.html

20. What is conditional Baptism?
http://www.daughtersofstpaul.com/growinginfaith/basicqas/sacraments/baptism1_84.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=vgjwIJ8mqcEC&pg=PA145&lpg=PA145&dq=conditional+baptism&source=web&ots=uAOmtDrpVH&sig=Cyqf0JK3_276TKqN33rRO-kIY4Q

Let us know if you manage to come to an abbreviated conclusion:D

[suedent]

thanks Suedent, but doesnt it seem strange that the parents wouldnt know if their child had been baptised or not,:confused: Being re baptised into the church of a different religion I can understand

In the case you quote it's possible that the bride to be wasn't sure if she'd been baptized & got baptized "just in case" before she married. Possibly her parents weren't around to ask.

[jeanettemarie]

Thanks Mutley they made interesting reading, I know in the early 1800's a lot of babies were baptised at birth because of the high infant mortality rate, so I suppose the priest must have been just covering his back.

In the case you quote it's possible that the bride to be wasn't sure if she'd been baptized & got baptized "just in case" before she married. Possibly her parents weren't around to ask.

Suedent the ones I was looking at were all Baptisms,late 1800's, the marginal notes for the marriage were added at a later date,giving the church and also the place they moved too, which I found very helpful, I wish they were all that informative, so that wouldnt apply, thanks anyway
Jeanette

[elyam]

I also found baptism records in Bristol where marriage details had been added later these went up to the 1920's including a marriage which took place in Herts which I would never have found.
Elyam