Where do I look? WARBURTON wilmslow 1800

[itsme]

Hi,
Never started a thread before, so hoping this works!
I have recently acquired my grandfathers family tree information that he started to gather. It was compiled a while ago without the use of the internet. I am looking to find parents and children of William Warburton b1800 Wilmslow d 4/10/1875 Wilmslow who married Maria Harrison 1840 in Manchester b 1920 Wilmslow d 9/6/1914 Wilmslow. He seemed to get a bit lost around here. Please could someone tell me where to go to find this out would it be the cencus or birth records?? Which website/is the best one to pay for etc. Any info greatly received.
Thanks

[Geoffers]

Never started a thread before, so hoping this works!

Welcome to the British-Genealogy forums and since I'm replying, you must have got it right!

I am looking to find parents and children of William Warburton b1800 Wilmslow d 4/10/1875 Wilmslow who married Maria Harrison 1840 in Manchester b 1920 Wilmslow d 9/6/1914 Wilmslow. He seemed to get a bit lost around here. Please could someone tell me where to go to find this out would it be the cencus or birth records

First, just as an observation - you will hopefully end up sharing lots of information with others, tracing your family back to the year dot - and it's important to share inforamtion accurately. Not everyone records dates the same way. To me 4/10 is 4th October, but some would read it as April 10th. So to help share information, it is best to just abbreviate the month as Apr, or Jun - etc rather than just using all numbers. I hope that makes sense?!

Should I take it that Maria HARRISON's birth should read 1820 and that she lived to a good old age?

If that is the case, both she and William were born before the start of civil registration - so with one exception, you won't be able to get a birth certifiatce for either. Instead, to find their parents you will have to turn to using parish registers, which principally record religious events, baptisms and burials, as opposed to births and deaths.

The parish registers will be held by the Record Office covering Wilmslow. However, being some distance away from where you live, you may find difficulty getting there. You have a couple of possibilities.

1. The Society of Genealogists (http://www.sog.org.uk/)has a large library which may include the records that you want.

2. The registers may be available for hire at a mormon church (LDS) record centre.

For finding their children, the first place would look to get names and approximate ages and places of birth, are the census returns. Census returns are available on many different pay-per-view sites, everyone who uses them has their own favourite - you could try findmypast, The Genealogist, 1901census.nationalarchives, amongst others.

One word of warning, WARBURTON and HARRISON both occur quite frequently in records, do make sure that you have found the right census return, parish register entry, etc.

[itsme]

Thank you for the useful information and tips to make things more clear. I did read through some of the new people information threads before I posted to try and get things right.
I kind of came the back way round to the website forum and then registered. I have now found the 'home page' and other useful information on the website so I am having a good read through all of this now.Sorry if my question now sounds a bit silly.
Thanks for the pay per view info-I was not sure if there was a preferred supplier if that makes sense.
Yes I believe she did have a very long life and I will never win the typing olympics!!
Thanks again
Here we go...

[Geoffers]

Thanks for the pay per view info-I was not sure if there was a preferred supplier if that makes sense.

Everyone who uses online pay-per-view sites has their own preference; what suits some is no good to others and vice versa - there is one site I will not use that others find very helpful. So I am loathe to say that you should use one, or another.

Three pieces of advice

1. Have a look at them all, what they have to offer and what they cost for subscription. You're the one who will be using it, which seems easier to use - which do you think provides best value?

2. A Family History magazine will contain lots of adverts for various sites and suppliers; I think one of the magazines is a good investment of a couple of quid, just to see what there is; if nothing else, it's a good excuse to sit down with a cuppa for a few minutes.

3. Subscribe in haste, repent at leisure. Check what is available freely and what you can find out from other sources, before joining - is your research local and so can you get to a record office and do it for free? Don't think that the site offering the most is necessarily the best.

[uksearch]

Besides being at Cheshire Record Office, films for this parish are held here.

Wilmslow- St Bartholomew
Baptisms-1558-1812- MFPR 465
Baptisms-1813-1877- MFPR 466
Burials-1558-1812- MFPR 465
Burials-1813-1902- MFPR 467
Burials Tr.-1692-1902- N. Cheshire FHS Fiche
Marriages-1558-1754- MFPR 465
Marriages-1754-1837- MFPR 466
Marriages-1837-1887- MFPR 467
Registers Tr.-1558-1741- MSF929.3271 W1
Registers Tr.-1692-1741- Q929.342716 Wil

UK

[itsme]

Thank you for the helpful inforamtion

[uksearch]

I has a quick squint at the film of the PRs for Wilmslow. The page where I "think" this entry is was of very poor quality. IF I got the correct entry he was baptised towards the end of February. He appeared to be the son of Wm. I couldn't read the surname but it ended with " burton". I could not read the abode or anything after that. It would really need someone to check the original register at Chester.

The marriage was a different matter...I get back with the details as some later point as I have a slight problem that I want to try and sort out.

UK

[uksearch]

Collegiate & Parish Church of Manchester Jan 24th 1841
William WARBURTON, Full, Bachelor, Schoolmaster, 16 Lower Mosley St. Father, William WARBURTON, Grocer & Maria HARRISON, Full, Spinster, Cheetham. Father, Samuel HARRISON, Farmer. Married...after Banns...Both signed. Witnesses Henry BOWER & Catharine LONGSON

UK

[itsme]

Wow Thanks, Thats really kind of you to look that information up for me.
I have been looking more at my Grandfathers notes to try and make some more sense of things. I have since found some scriblings which seem to suggest that that there might have been a son of Maria and William called Samuel William Warburton born 1844 died 29th March 1914. There was however no mention of the information with regard William that you have kindly found for me. This gives me something else to work with. Still very confused with how to read some of his notes and charts. I think I may have to contact someone locally who understands family history (probably reads very clearly to them!) to help me understand more of his research.
Thanks very much for your help again.

[janbooth]

This looks like he in the 1871 census of Bradford, Lancashire:

RG10/4060, folio 26, page 45
18 Ashton New Rd

William H? WARBURTON Head M 60 Draper Cheshire Wilmslow
Maria do Wife M 49 do do
Sam. Wm. do Son Un 25 Warehouseman do do
Harriet do Daur Un 19 Milliner do do
William H do Son 14 Bankers Messenger Lancash Bradford
Henry do Son 11 Scholar do do

The above family is also in the 1861 census of Bradford, Lancashire (RG9/2968, folio 48, page 42) with the addition of a son John aged 18, Warehouseman born Wilmslow but William snr is shown as a Warehouseman and the family is living at Bradford Road South.

By the 1881 census, Samuel W is living in Cheetham, Lancs (RG11/4024, folio 26, page 45) and has become a Buyer of Grey Cotton Clothes with a wife Mary aged 34 born Wilmslow and children Emily, John F and Alice M living at 18 Beech St.

They are still in Cheetham in the 1891 census (RG12/3264, folio 47, page 19) with the addition of another son William and John has become Fred and in the 1901 census (RG13/3769, folio 28, page 39), when son John is now shown as Frederick.

HTH

Janet

[itsme]

Thanks Janet. I shall print this of and have a good read when I get five minutes. I think that you have found some interesting information which was not clear before.
People are so kind on here. Trying to work out what HTH means?? Probably being thick!
Thanks again. Regards

[Jan1954]

Trying to work out what HTH means??
Happy to help

Probably being thick!


Nope - just not familiar with abbreviated phrases. :)

I had to ask what ROTFWL meant (rolling on the floor with laughter...)