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BeeE586
22-01-2008, 5:50 PM
Because I do a lot of knitting, sewing, crochet and fine embroidery I do need a good light and like a 150w bulb as my main source. Now I am told that these are no longer being manufactured "for environmental reasons - so people will use less electricity." A 100w bulb is quite useless for my purposes so I need a second light - how is this saving electricity ?

Or am I missing something here ?

Eileen

suedent
22-01-2008, 5:57 PM
I know what you mean Eileen, I need 150 watt in my living room as the ceilings are very high & even then lamps are needed for close work.

Whilst they are busy promoting "low energy" light bulbs they fail to point out the amount of energy needed to power them up. They are only really economical if they are left on for long periods. I find them very inconvenient for areas such as passageways and bathrooms. By the time the light has powered up it's time to turn it off again.

They also keep fairly quiet about all the nasties that are released (including mercury) should one of the Low energy bulbs break.

margarita
22-01-2008, 6:28 PM
Here in Greece, and particularly in Crete which always goes its own way, they haven't caught onto the idea of banning any light bulbs yet.

We are thinking of bulk buying them and bringing them over to sell when we come on holiday - should finance the holiday!! I am sure we coould find 150 watt ones.

We have a low-energy bulb in our bedroom and I hate it - I can never tell if it's on or not.

Maggie

v.wells
22-01-2008, 6:55 PM
The new bulbs here have the equivalents eg 15= 60 - actually looking at the package it is unclear. It just mentions the hours usage. The ones we use in high traffic areas are 15 watt and it is really bright. 2 in the bathroom as there is no window and its about 120 watts and only using 30watts power. Not environmentally friendly at all, as there is no place to dispose of them except by saving them up and taking them to hazardous wast site. If they last as long as they say, I'll be long gone before we have enough saved up!

Diane Grant-Salmon
22-01-2008, 6:56 PM
Snap Eileen ;)

I'm the same when I have to sew, I need the 150 watt bulbs too ...... particularly when sewing black!

Having read about the *phasing out* of this lot, today, we bought 4 packets (each packet containing 4 bulbs) of R63 60watts for my spotlight lamps. I have two of them in the lounge, tall efforts, both having two spotlights.

Having cleaned out that shop, we shall proceed to clean out all the others near us, so I shall have a good stock in for sewing, when the two 150 watts in the lounge ceiling shades conk out! :D

Jan1954
22-01-2008, 7:02 PM
I'm the same when I have to sew, I need the 150 watt bulbs too ...... particularly when sewing black!


It has been known for me to be sat sitting sewing, wearing a halogen head-torch. Excellent light, but your street cred disappears somewhat... |shakehead

Also, if you forget you're wearing it and someone talks to you, you look at them and they're blinded in one easy move! :D

suedent
22-01-2008, 7:06 PM
I used to use daylight bulbs for my cross-stich but they are getting harder & harder to find :-(

If any of the kids want dark clothes mended they've been told to give them to me in plenty of time so I can sew during the day as it's almost impossible to stitch them in artificial light.

Diane Grant-Salmon
22-01-2008, 7:16 PM
Ooops ...... I forgot to mention that to sew black, I need a 150 watt bulb and sunlight! ;)

Rina H
22-01-2008, 7:35 PM
There seem to be a lot of us genealogy addicts who are also addicted to stitching!! I am also a cross stitcher who is currently stockpiling daylight bulbs for future use - has it occurred to anyone else that between peering at computer screens/indecipherable handwriting and peering at tiny holes in material/charts there's not much chance of us avoiding the opticians!?! Especially if we can't get hold of the right bulbs anymore!;)

Rina H

suedent
22-01-2008, 7:45 PM
There seem to be a lot of us genealogy addicts who are also addicted to stitching!! I am also a cross stitcher who is currently stockpiling daylight bulbs for future use - has it occurred to anyone else that between peering at computer screens/indecipherable handwriting and peering at tiny holes in material/charts there's not much chance of us avoiding the opticians!?! Especially if we can't get hold of the right bulbs anymore!;)

Rina H

I have noticed that it's getting harder & harder to thread a needle. Mind you. I've been doing a lot of transcribing recently. Eventually I'll get around to making that appointment.

Barnzzz
22-01-2008, 8:45 PM
Hello from another cross stitcher/embroiderer. I hadn't thought of this problem before reading this thread, I too need bright light and will have to stock up or wait for Maggie to visit from Crete.

I've replaced some bulbs with low energy ones and in those areas its definately dim !

Sue

Ladkyis
22-01-2008, 9:15 PM
"they" also don't tell you that the older the low energy bulbs get the slower they are to 'get up to speed'. They do last a long time though.

Davran
22-01-2008, 10:07 PM
Just count your blessings, ladies. Remember your ancestors, who had to stitch by candlelight and firelight! And didn't they produce some wonderful embroidery. ;)

Bronco
22-01-2008, 10:12 PM
I have bought a CFL ( compact flourescent light) spiral shaped bulb by Phillips.
The packaging reads 42 watts which equals an incadescent 150 watt bulb. I use this bulb in a lamp that sits at the side of my desk. If I needed one to go into a fixture like a spot lamp where I could aim it down on the desk then I would use the type that comes with a built in reflector. Having used these CFLs throughout my house for a number of years I have nothing but good things to say about them. They are more expensive but they save energy costs and I have not had to replace any because they burned out. Phillips, Sylvania and General Electric all offer them. You can also get bulbs that generate "cool white" - "soft white" - "warm white" etc

A word of caution - there are "off brand" bulbs sold at discount prices which have been known to melt!!!!! - so pay the extra and buy a a well know brand.

Hope this info proves useful,

Gary

BeeE586
23-01-2008, 12:59 AM
Thank you all - obviously I wasn't having a 'senior moment', this problem realy does exist.

I do wear varifocals and have high powered specs with a feint green filter for the computer but cannot sew with them. I will haunt Focus and Homebase next week and see if I can find any of the brands mentioned. Sad thing, I have put the last bulb in my halogen spotlight and can't find a supply of those either. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Eileen

AnnB
23-01-2008, 8:16 AM
I have noticed that it's getting harder & harder to thread a needle. Mind you. I've been doing a lot of transcribing recently. Eventually I'll get around to making that appointment.

You and me both Sue ;)

And Eileen, we have tried out so many different types of energy saving lightbulbs recently (none of which I am terribly impressed with) we could open a second hand lightbulb shop.......

Best wishes
Ann

MarkJ
23-01-2008, 1:42 PM
Have you had one of these new fangled low energy bulbs fail yet? I have managed to get two to "blow" so far - but they were a couple of years old. The reason I ask is because when both of these went, they failed with a quite spectacular noise and tripped the fusebox :(

Although I still have a couple of these low energy light bulbs (supplied free of charge) and run them in the hallway, I much prefer proper bulbs for general lighting. As Annie says, the low energy fluorescent lights cause problems for many people - they seem to induce headaches in most folk after a while.
If the powers that be want to "save the planet" by reducing electricity consumption, there are other, more effective ways. They could start by reducing the number of streetlights in some areas - and maybe dropping the rating of the bulbs in those! They could still keep the same level of illumination by placing reflectors which worked above the lights - thus shining the light down to where it is useful rather than into the night sky!
Also, how about turning them off in the daytime! The number of streetlights which stay on all day - either because they are so designed or because the sensors are damaged - is quite maddening.

Mark

BeeE586
23-01-2008, 2:09 PM
And how about the number of public buildings that are lit up like Christmas trees day and night, and shop windows blazing away. I know security is important, but are such bright lights necessary. And the heat in some shops steams up my specs and causes me to gasp and reach for an inhaler. The local Morrison's is one of the worst.

As for street lights - it would be nice if the burnt out bulbs could be replaced so that we got any light at all in some of the dark places.

I get so cross when a committee sitting in comfortable chairs in a warm, well-lit office decides how I should live my life, and how much light I am allowed. I wonder if they restrict themselves to dim rooms and hallways ?

But I feel better now I have had a moan.

Eileen

SBSFamilyhistory
23-01-2008, 4:28 PM
okay just been shopping and found myself looking at lightbulbs for the sewers etc on this site....sad yes, in fact I nearly walked out of one shop without looking at what I went there for.. anyway

there is something called a R7S Linear Halogen thing about the thickness of a kids pencil made by Phillips or Ring about 5 for 2 that have 150w, 300w and 500w but I don't know what sort of ligght fitting you would need.


Sue

SBSFamilyhistory
24-01-2008, 8:43 AM
even better I have found them ... you can send for the bulbs you want by mail order and they are not too expensive....

Happy Shopping.

BeeE586
24-01-2008, 12:11 PM
Thank you Sue - the website is just what we need.

|bowdown|

Eileen

SBSFamilyhistory
24-01-2008, 12:38 PM
that's okay only glad to be able to assist you.

Linda
24-01-2008, 5:18 PM
Are they only banning the standard shape bulbs? (the first four on that web page?)

The Halogena lamps, further down, will give you the same light output and last 4 times longer.

Linda
(Lighting Specialist, albeit in Canada) :)

suedent
24-01-2008, 5:22 PM
From what I've heard Halogen bulbs are also getting banned.

Linda
24-01-2008, 5:25 PM
Oh that's too bad - Just noticed though, that the halogena seem to be with a screw base anyway - what is common now, in Britain? Back in the days when I lived there, they only used the type of base shown in the top 2 of the list on that web page. :confused:

suedent
24-01-2008, 5:35 PM
A lot depends on the lamp, Halogen ones are more commonly screw in, for general light fittings bayonet bulbs are more common.

BeeE586
14-02-2008, 12:14 PM
Thanks to the kind people who post here I have just had delivered 8 150w bulbs which should last me well into the forseeable future. What a treat to be well lit again.

Eileen