My Great Grandfather +5 was a cordwainer...

[siamesewillow]

My Grandfather going back was a cordwainer, he was called Philemon Mangal Richards b 1806,Castle Precincts, Bristol. In the 1850s he went to America and continued as a shoemaker. I would love to know what nationality he was, and the name of his parents. His son George was also a cordwainer but than became a grocer. He stayed in this country.:confused:

siamese

[Sue Mackay]

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[siamesewillow]

Yes I'm helina

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[pastimperfect]

The Castle Precincts area in Bristol was a Civil Parish in the county of Gloucestershire, in England. It was abolished in 1896.
It occupied the area between the parishes of St. Philip and Jacob on the east, and that of St. Peter on the west; the river Frome on the north, and the waters of the Avon on the south. It was heavily bombed during WW2 and now almost all covered by parkland known as Castle Green.

My Gt GT Gt Grandfather James Alsop worked as a cordwainer and was of Irish descent. He is listed in the UK Census of 1841 in the Parish of St Augustine. The family were Catholic. He died by 1845 in the Poor House (St Peter's Hospital)

If you go to ancestry you will find the following on Philemon Richards which might assist you with your enquiries:

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
Immigration & Emigration
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Name: Philemon Richards
Birth: abt 1805
Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival: 10 Aug 1853 - Boston, Massachusetts

1860 United States Federal Census
Census & Voter Lists
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Name: Phileman Richards
Birth: abt 1803 - England
Residence: 1860 - North Providence, Providence, Rhode Island

If he was born in Bristol he would be English. The name comes from a wealthy citizen of Colossae, to whom St. Paul addressed a private letter, unique in the New Testament, which bears his name.

The Bristol Record Office holds extensive records on Bristolians and they are very helpful and quick to reply to any queries. They can be contacted on:
Bristol Record Office
'B' Bond Warehouse
Smeaton Road
Bristol
BS1 6XN
Tel: 0117 922 4224
Fax: 0117 922 4236
Open: Tuesday - Friday, 9.30 am - 4.30 pm
Plus 9.30 am - 7 pm first two Thursdays of the month
and 10 am - 4 pm first two Saturdays of the month
(unless clashing with Doors Open Day or a bank holiday)

[janbooth]

Hi Helina,

I can't find your Philemon in the 1851 census, but this entry in the 1851 census of Hillmorton, Warwickshire might be connected in some way - the name just seems too much of a coincidence!!

HO107/2070, folio 189, page 21
Lower Street

Philemon MANGAL Head Mar 40 Inn Keeper Wick Glamorgan
Mary do Wife Mar 34 Corra Shropshire
Marion do Daur 9 Scholar Kineton Warwick
William do Son 6 do do do
Mary Ann do Daur 3 Katford do
Jane do do 9 mths Hillmorton do
Sarah WATERS Serv U 15 House Servant Northampton

However, I have found your Philemon in the 1841 census of Castle Precincts, Bristol:

HO107/371/7, folio 15, page 23
Sheppard Court

Philemon RICHARDS 35 Cordwainer Born in county no
William do 15 yes
George do 10 yes
Emma do 10 yes
Caroline WILLIAMSON 20 Ind yes
Emma do 1 month yes

There is a will on the National Archives Documents Online site of a Thomas RICHARDS Boot & Shoe Maker of Bristol dated 8 March 1824 who might be connected in some way.

And there is in the 1851 census of Bristol (HO107/1954, folio 32, page 57) a Willm. RICHARD, Widr, aged 47, Shoemaker, born Swansea living at New Street who again could be connected in some way.

HTH

Janet