BOTFIELD

[joyander]

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I have a marriage by banns @ St. Anne. Soho and need to find out the grooms parents names. The couple were William Henry Botfield & Margaret Moore. I cant find a birth for either of them. Can anyone tell me if the church was destroyed in WW2.

[Jan1954]

See below...

http://www.stannes-soho.org.uk/history

Jan :)

[Geoffers]

You don't mentioned a date for the marriage, this is quite important as it affects what other routes you might try.

[joyander]

What a dill I am. They were married in 1818

[Geoffers]

Okedoke - first place to look is to see if the married couple survived to the 1851 census which should record a place of birth (often just a town, smetimes a parish within a town) - or as a second best to the 1841 census which is not as detailed, but should still show if someone was born in the county or not; if not born in England or Wales, the census shows if someone was born in Scotland, Ireland or foregin parts.

If you can get a place of birth from the census, the next palce to look are the relevant parish registers.

If parish registers have been destroyed - try the annual copy that was made; this will either be the Archdeacon's Transcript (AT) or Bishop's Transcript (BT)

[janbooth]

In case you do not have access to census records, this looks like your couple in the 1851 census of St Giles, Cripplegate:

HO107/1525, folio 173, page 21
39 Whitecross Street

William H BOTFIELD Head Mar 55 General Porter London
Margaret do Wife Mar 58 Umbrella Maker do
Emily A do Daur Un 18 Parasol Maker do
+ 1 Lodger & 1 visitor

Not much help there for you!!

In the 1841 census (HO107/722/2, folio 10, page 13), William & Margaret were in St Mary Aldermanbury with St Thomas:

Willm BOTFIELD 45 Porter Born in county yes
Margaret do 45 yes
William do 21 Labourer yes
Robert do 18 do yes
Charles do 16 do yes
Emily do 9 yes

Son William looks as if he is in the 1851 census of St Luke, Middlesex and gives his birthplace as City of London, Robert is also in St Luke in the 1851 census and gives his place of birth as St Giles, Cripplegate as does Charles in the 1861 census.

William Henry BOTFIELD appears to have died iun 1855 as there is a death registration on the GRO Index in the June qtr 1855 at East? (according to Ancestry the district is East but the writing is very faint) London registration district, vol. 1c, page 4?. The second page number is very indistinct so you should check that for yourself and see what you make of it. I can't find Margaret in post 1851 census records.

Given that the male children gave their birthplace as St Giles Cripplegate, your best bet is to probably start your investigations there and hope that you can glean some clues from the parish registers.

Good luck,

Janet

[joyander]

Thank you for all the help. I have a copy of the 1851 census and the death certificate for William Henry in 1855. It doesn't show his next of kin or home address. Where do I find parish Registers?

[janbooth]

The parish registers of St Giles, Cripplegate have been filmed by the LDS and are available to order (not sure how much it costs nowadays) and then search at your nearest LDS Family History Centre. This can be found by going to the Family Search website, clicking on Family History Library Catalogue and then Family History Centres tab at the top of the page.

I'm afraid I do not know where the parish registers of St Giles Cripplegate are held in London, but I'm sure someone on the Forum will have the answer.

Janet