MATLEY: Trying to find father of SAMUEL MATLEY Dukinfield, Cheshire/Lancashire

[jem2008]

Samuel was illegitimate son of Mary Ann Matley.

Was Matley Mary’s married or unmarried name?
Was Robert Matley the step father?
Why can I find a census form with Samuel Matley Between his birth and marriage?

I have speculated with various Robert and Mary Ann matleys building theoretical trees. I have even considered a ? Rothwell as a potential father as this is the middle name of Samuels’s first son "Harry Rothwell Matley" c1881. This surname does not appear anywhere else apart from Andrew Solomon Rothwell who was witness to Samuels Wedding. Could his family be the key? I’ve looked and found a Samuel Rothwell who is Andrews Brother.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE:

13-05-1858

Name and surname of father; BLANK, Name, surname and maiden surname of mother; Mary Ann Matley, occupation of father; BLANK; signature, description and residence of informant; the mark of Mary Ann Matley mother (Davies Street, Dukinfield, Cheshire/Lancashire).

MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE:
25-12-1879
Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the established Church, By or after Banns by me, Fielding Ould

SAMUEL MATLEY
Age: 23
Condition: Bachelor
Rank or profession: Grinder
Residence at time of marriage: Stayleybridge
Fathers name and surname: Robert Matley
Rank or Profession of father: Gentleman

ELIZABETH ELLEN NALL
Age: 20
Condition: Spinster
Rank or profession:
Residence at time of marriage: Stayleybridge
Fathers Name and Surname: Robert Nall
Fathers rank or Profession: Weaver

This marriage between us, Samuel Matley & Elizabeth Ellen Nall in the presence of Solomon Andrew Rothwell & Sarah Hannah Nall

Later Samuel became a Nail Cutter in 1881 Census living at 4 Bath Street, Dukinfield, Stayleybridge. Then Samuel lived at 1 Castle Street Stayleybridge on 27 Feb 1886 when Arther (Samuels second son) Was Born.

Finally in 1891 and 1801 Samuel is a Newsagent living at 20 Kenworthy Street and 15 -17 Kenworthy Street respectively.

Thanks

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James

[uksearch]

Hello and Welcome.

Please don't let my reply put you off. The information on certificates is not always accurate. In the case of the marriage certificate I would take the information about the groom's father with a rather large pinch of sodium chloride;).

UK

[Jan1954]

Hello James,

You maybe could try looking in the Parish Records that cover the area in which he was born. It may give a clue to his father: I have a number of baptisms where it says "and (name) is father of said child, by oath sworn by (mother) this day.... "

Good luck,

Jan

[uksearch]

If he was baptised in Dukinfield in the CofE two likely churches are St John the Evangelist and St Marks.

UK

[jem2008]

Thank you for you advice.

I will make a trip up to Manchester at some point to try and find Samuels father.

Regards

James:o