John DWYER, born 1874 in Aus, moved to NZ

[ChristineR]

I am trying to find any information at all about a Great Grand Uncle who was known to be living in new Zealand in 1915 and 1922 when his parents died. He is not obvious in the death index back here, so I think that he remained there.

John DWYER, born 27th January 1874 at Glenhope, Victoria, Australia
(the birth was registered at Heathcote) John was the younger of twins, his twin sister dying the next year.

His parents were Patrick DWYER and Catherine MURPHY, Irish emigrants who married in Kyneton, Vic 1859.

Christine :)

[Chisel]

Have you had any success with this query yet?

[ChristineR]

No, not yet, thanks for asking Chisel :)

A bit more info.

DEATH OF MR. P. DWYER
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Mr. Patrick Dwyer, another of the worthy pioneers of this district, died at 11 a.m. yesterday at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. T. Corcoran, of Mitchell St. He was a native of Tipperary, Ireland, and was 82 years of age. He was married in Kyneton in 1859 by the late Very Rev. Dean Geoghegan. Since 1862 until about two years ago he carried on farming pursuits at Glenhope. Previous to this he had a farm on the Campaspe near Carlsruhe. The primary cause of his death was Bright’s disease. His wife and a family of four sons and six daughters survive. The sons are Messrs. Michael, Joseph, John and Daniel Dwyer, who reside in Kyneton, Glenhope, New Zealand and Melbourne respectively. The daughters are Mesdames J. Bowler (Ballarat,) T. Corcoran (Kyneton), T. Carty (Warrnambool), H. Lechte (Caulfield), G. Webb (Caulfield) and J. Brown (Elsternwick). Deceased was a kind-hearted, jovial and honest man and was esteemed and respected by all who knew him.
The interment will take place in the Kyneton Cemetery, the funeral leaving his daughter’s residence in Mitchell street at 2-30 p.m. to-morrow.

ChristineR

[David Tuson]

Hi Christine

I've had a look on the NZ Society of Genealogists CD (Mainly index entries) - there are quite a few entries for John Dwyer. Two caught my attention as possibilities:
1919 Electoral Roll for Wellington North
1947 death notice aged 77 years (not quite 1874 birth year), again Wellington
Both entries require that contact be made to the appropriate NZSG branch. I could do that if you think these may be possibilities.

I also did a search on Papers Past which extends up to 1915. There were 234 entries for "John Dwyer" - exact phrase. You may wish to have a look at the site - the address is
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

David

[Chisel]

David, I will leave this one you you if you like (no point double researching). Leave me a Pm if you decide to pass the parcel. |snore|

[ChristineR]

Thanks David (and Chisel)

I knew it would not be easy with a name like John Dwyer. I never worry about ages being too exacting on death certificates, though my Dwyers were a lot better with their ages than my Corcoran lot.

I know nothing about the fellow apart from having his birth certificate and knowing that he resided in New Zealand at the times of death of his parents.

Thanks for your kind offer.

Just thought I would post him, in case someone was googling specifically for him, and picked up my posting. It would be easier for descendants tracking back than for me to go forward.

I love old newspapers, so off to have a play in it that web site :D

ChristineR

[David Tuson]

Hi Christine

I'll give you the details about the death (possibly a monument inscription) just in case you find something about John, eg a marriage. I had hoped to find a ship's passenger list entry on the NZSG CD, that would have given a clue to his possible location in NZ - no such luck.

John, husband of Alice Dwyer, d 16/11/1947 aged 77
Alice, wife of John Dwyer, d 0/9/1951 aged 69
Rose Evelyn Dwyer, d 19/10/1914 aged 17 months
William Dwyer, d 6/12/1966 aged 60

I did notice a death reference for Adelaide, don't know why that's on the NZSG CD. Unfortunately no more details.

Hope you enjoy browsing Papers Past - I always get sidetracked on that site.

Good luck with your search
David

[ChristineR]

Thanks for that David.

One thing that had not occurred to me until now is that, even though he lived in NZ, he may have married here in Australia. Or there may be mention of his death in our regional newspapers.

So I am doing some inventive searching of the Victorian index, which does have birthplaces shown, for some reason, during the time frame if he married in his twenties.

I'll pop those death details in my file, might come in handy.

ChristineR