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janz
31-10-2007, 12:06 PM
I LIVE IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA AND AM FINDING IT VERY HARD TO TRACE MY GREATGRANDMOTHERS RELATIVES WHO WHERE FROM WHITEHAVEN.HER NAME WAS MARTHA RUMNEY RIGG SHE HAD A SISTER TAMAR ANDERSON AND HER FATHER WAS A SURVEYOR THATS ALL I KNOW CAN ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE? SHE WAS BORN IN SEPTEMBER 1882 AND MARRIED WILLIAM HENRY RIGG BORN IN MARCH 1882 IN KENDAL THEY WERE MARRIED IN MARCH 19004 AND HAD 5 CHILDREN ANNIE 1905,MAY ANDERSON 08/05/1908 THOMAS SEPTEMBER 1909 ADA SEPTEMBER 1911 AND WILLIAM 1924 IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFO ON THIS FAMILY COULD YOU PLEASE GET IN TOUCH I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL.
JANET RIGG|banghead|

Sue Mackay
31-10-2007, 3:06 PM
Here is Martha in 1891

RG12; Piece: 4317; Folio 95; Page 28

55 Trumpet Terrace, Cleator, Cumberland

Maria ANDERSON Head Wid 34 Cow keeper b. Cumberland, Alston
Nicholas V son 16 iron miner b. Alston
John J son 14 iron miner b. Alston
Sibyl dau 12 scholar b. Alston
Martha R dau 8 scholar b. Cleator
Mathew W son 6 scholar b Cleator
Thomas H son 4 scholar b. Cleator

Sue Mackay
31-10-2007, 3:57 PM
Here is the family in 1901, still at 55 Trumpet Terrace
RG13/4895 folio 71 page 9

Maria ANDERSON Head Wid 44 b Cumberland, Alston
John son 24 iron ore miner b Alston
Martha dau 18 housemaid domestic b Cleator Moor
Matthew son 16 in linen mill b Cleator Moor
Thomas son 14 in linen mill b Cleator Moor
Mary dau 6 b Cleator Moor

The question is, of course, who was Mary's father if Maria was already a widow in 1891?

I think this is the right family, as a couple pages further on (folio 72 page 11) at 11 Trumpet Road is
Ralph RAINE Head Mar 58 iron ore miner b Alston
Betsy wife 57 b Alston
Tamar ANDERSON niece 11 scholar b Cleator Moor

Looking back I discover that Ralph and Betsy were actually living next door but one to Maria and family in 1891 in Trumpet Terrace (see above posting) and Tamar was with them then as well.

In 1881 (RG11/5191 folio 110 page 34) Maria's husband, Matthew, was still alive. Matthew ANDERSON married Maria STOUT in Alston Dec qtr 1874 vol 10b page 735, so I can only assume that Betsy Raine's maiden name was STOUT as well (Yep, Dec qtr 1869 Betsy STOUT married Ralph RAIN (no e) in Alston.

1881 census shows that Mathhew ANDERSON was also an iron ore miner, so I don't know where the surveyor came in - perhaps in a later generation?

Matthew ANDERSON Head Mar 29 iron ore miner b. Durham, Harwood
Maria wife 23 Cumberland Garrigill
Nicholas V son 6 b Garrigill
John J son 4 b Garigill
Tibb dau 2 b Garigill
Sarah J dau 9 mo b Cleator
Simon STOUT boarder unm 22 iron ore miner b Garigill

Geoff Everitt
31-10-2007, 11:37 PM
Matthew ANDERSON didn't quite make it to the 1891 census

Deaths Mar 1891
ANDERSON Matthew 38 Whitehaven 10b 449

janz
01-11-2007, 5:15 PM
|hug|THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE INFORMATION,YOU HAVE GIVEN ME MORE IN ONE NIGHT THAN I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT IN 2 YEARS. AGAIN SINCERE THANKS.I WAS BORN IN PENWORTHAM PRESTON LANCASHIRE AND MY FAMILY EMIGRATED TO AUSTRALIA WHEN I WAS 13 YRS OLD.ALL MY DAD'S FAMILY WERE A LOT OLDER AS THEY WERE MY GREAT AUNTS AND UNCLE'S SEEING MY DAD WAS AN ONLY CHILD SO THIS INFO MEANS SO MUCH. JANET RIGG